ARE MY PPM's too HIGH

bricktown73

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When I fill up from the tap, 35 gallons gives me 850 ppm, just plain tap water. After adding nutes, I am at 1800, I know this is high but I wanted other people to confirm.

Is this too high? What are some disadvantaged of having high PPM?

What should my PPM be at?

I am running a hydro setup Ebb and flow. 35 gallon resiviors. GH nutes.
 

Luv2Gro

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850 ppm from the tap? I wouldn't even use that water for cooking or bathing.

^^this...

850ppm tapwater is f-in awful bro, it would not be advisable to use this water for anything... are you sure that your tds meter is working properly, i've never seen water this high and I used to be somewhat in the water business...

as far as 1800ppm for your nute solution, this is probably too high for a total concentration, but you only have about 950ppm of nutes in there which is probably about right if not a little low...

so, what i'd suggest, get some bottled ro water from somewhere that sells it, when you get home, test the bottled water with your meter before you add nutes, if your meter reads more than like 100 then your meter is fukd... mix nutes with your water to 1200-1400 ppm total concentration...

GL buddy, hope this helps, i'd look hard at my meter if i were you, make sure its ok before you go out and buy an ro system...:peace:
 

bgmike8

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yeah, they say anything over 200 is hard water and you really shouldnt fuck with it. that being said, ust subtract your starting ppm from your finished ppm. in your example you have 950 ppm of nutes. maybe you need to calibrate your meter. good luck
 

demonic1

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I do not think anyone can really answer your question with any accurately without knowing what is in your water. At 850 ppm, there is a lot of dissolved solid in the mix already. Is that water coming from a nuclear power plant run off, next to large commercial farm well water, or a large commercial mining operation? On the other hand, is it just a little muddy from some strong rains and no additives have been added like Calcium or Chlorine. GH has a product for hard water, which it recommends for over 200 PPM.

FLORA MICRO® HARDWATER:

If your tap water is over 200 ppm (or contains Calcium above 70 ppm), use Flora Micro Hardwater. If your water contains 30 to 50 ppm Calcium, you can mix our original Flora Micro with Flora Micro Hardwater to create a perfect Micro blend for your plants.

http://www.planetnatural.com/site/floramicro-hardwater.html

Although, I would not be adding anything until I knew what was in your water. You can call whoever is in charge of your water board to ask them what is in the water or if you were using Well water, then I would have it tested. Either that or get whole house filters or a Reverse Osmosis set up.

As for what your PPM should be using GH, which would also depend on what phase of the grow you are in, the size of your grow, number of plants, etc… For me, I would even want to know the lighting setup because if you have 1000 watt HPS running and it is directly over just a few plants, then you can up your PPM as your plants would be using it up faster than say someone using a couple small CFL’s. I like to push my nutes as I am pushing the growth of my plants with my set up. Therefore, I will go higher with my PPM than say a friend who only has a small grow cabinet with say a 250 HPS. Having said that, I still do not push much over 1200 PPM with my soil set up.
 

bricktown73

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I do not think anyone can really answer your question with any accurately without knowing what is in your water. At 850 ppm, there is a lot of dissolved solid in the mix already. Is that water coming from a nuclear power plant run off, next to large commercial farm well water, or a large commercial mining operation? On the other hand, is it just a little muddy from some strong rains and no additives have been added like Calcium or Chlorine. GH has a product for hard water, which it recommends for over 200 PPM.

FLORA MICRO® HARDWATER:

If your tap water is over 200 ppm (or contains Calcium above 70 ppm), use Flora Micro Hardwater. If your water contains 30 to 50 ppm Calcium, you can mix our original Flora Micro with Flora Micro Hardwater to create a perfect Micro blend for your plants.


Although, I would not be adding anything until I knew what was in your water. You can call whoever is in charge of your water board to ask them what is in the water or if you were using Well water, then I would have it tested. Either that or get whole house filters or a Reverse Osmosis set up.

As for what your PPM should be using GH, which would also depend on what phase of the grow you are in, the size of your grow, number of plants, etc… For me, I would even want to know the lighting setup because if you have 1000 watt HPS running and it is directly over just a few plants, then you can up your PPM as your plants would be using it up faster than say someone using a couple small CFL’s. I like to push my nutes as I am pushing the growth of my plants with my set up. Therefore, I will go higher with my PPM than say a friend who only has a small grow cabinet with say a 250 HPS. Having said that, I still do not push much over 1200 PPM with my soil set up.
Ya, i have though about using the GH hard water nutes. I know my meter is accurate and correct. Its an expensive meter around 190 bucks that does ph, ec, and ppm.

I live in southern California, USA and for the most part my city is clean. I know that we have very hard water, I just don't know why our PPM is soo freakin high. I think I will get a gallon of RO water and compare.

Is there a down side to high PPM? Can nutes lock out at high lvls?
 

bgmike8

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ro should have near 0 the ppm is the dissolved solids like the other guy said. i also have a couple hundred dollar ppm-ph meter and one time after i used it for a long time, it started displaying ppm and ph readings that were unusual so i calibrated it and now it is good.
 
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