HELP please. tried everything.

[k3nz1387]

hi i got a problem with the leaves on my plant. there in 3 weeks flowering and the lower leaves on the nodes are going brown on the tips then drying up and then turning a whitey grey colour.
what i'v done so far:
i'v flushed the plants
checked soil ph(7.0) and its not heat stress as im using cfl above the plant and only the lower leaves have been effected. any info will help thanks

 

[simpsonsampson420]

im wouldnt worry about it if its just affecting the overall plant.. ive had that happen to me before.. where a limb or a small section of a plant just, for lack of better words, dies.. its never affected the entire plant (in my experiences) and its never affected the yield of the plant (guess i cant know if thats true since i dont know what it would have yielded otherwise)... so unless it start moving to other sections of the plant i wouldnt worry..

good luck

 

[k3nz1387]

its starting to spread to other parts of the plant and my other plants are starting to develop these dry tips.

 

[johnnyblizzo]

its starting to spread to other parts of the plant and my other plants are starting to develop these dry tips.

with ur ph neautral it looks like dreaded nute burn to me - lay off next time hit it with half strength and feed every other watering

 

[morrisgreenberg]

firs of all, i dont want to sound like a know it all, its not nute burn, burn effects the tips of the fan leaves , this is on his new growth, this is a more complicated deficiencie, you need to check the sticky at the top of the forum for diagnosing problems, what exactly are you feeding your plants? this may be something simple like phosphorous

 

[morrisgreenberg]

are you using bloom nutes yet? be more specific with what brand of nutrients your using

 

[johnnyblizzo]

more so looks like a Phosphorus deficiency to me

here is a link that should help u out a lot and get you back on track http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688- remember to give them a cpl days to recover and dont stress -ur learning and if it werent for all its thorns the rose bush wouldnt smell so sweet- just relax, load the bowl, and be happy when u work with them b/c u transfer that very same energy to ur babies - no stress JAH BLESS

 

[morrisgreenberg]

look, the only thing that can throw your average deficiencie off is when it effect the newest growth, and or top leaves, this could just aswell be a calcium def, but we cant pinpoint anything without know what you feed

 

[k3nz1387]

thanks for the replies. im using biobizz bloom and topmax at half strength

 

[simpsonsampson420]

ok.. here is mho...

i believe it is a magnesium def...

i was doing some reading and found this is my cheat book...

PROGRESSION OF MAGNESIUM DEF. SYMPTOMS AT A GLANCE
no def symptoms are visible during the first three to four weeks. in the fourth to sixth week of growth the first signs of def appear. interneinal yellowing and irregular rust-brown spots appear on older and middle aged leaves. younger leaves remain healthy. leaf tips yellow and turn brown and curl upwards as the def progresses. rust-brown spots multiply and interveinal yellowing increases. rust-brown spots and yellowing progress, starting at the bottom of the plant and advancing towards the top of the entire plant. younger leaves develope same symptoms. the leaves dry and die in extreme cases.

if this fits you scenario..

TREAT DEF. (gonna summarize this... lol)
water with 2 tsp, epsom salts per gal of water
for fast results spray leaves with a 2% epsom foliage spray
it will start from the top and fix its way down... water with the epsom salt until the entire plant is fine... over a couple weeks...


hope this is the answer you need... just dont know how many overall weeks of growth your plants have to know if this is the answer...

 

[Brick Top]

B - BORON (B)

Growing shoots turn grey or die. Growing shoots appear burnt. Treat with one teaspoon of Boric acid (sold as eyewash) per gallon of water.

Mg - MAGNESIUM (Mg)

Lower leaves yellow and may even turn white while veins remain dark green. Blades die and curl upward.

Fe - IRON (Fe)

Leaves on growing shoots turn pale and veins remain dark green. pH imbalances make iron insoluble. Foliar feed with chemical fertilizer containing Fe or rusty water.

 

[k3nz1387]

hi thanks for the info i was thinking magnesium or boron deficiency but needed to make sure. just ordered some epsom salts ad my biobizz topmax contains boron so might up the strength a little

 

[LUDACRIS]

ok.. here is mho...

i believe it is a magnesium def...

i was doing some reading and found this is my cheat book...

PROGRESSION OF MAGNESIUM DEF. SYMPTOMS AT A GLANCE
no def symptoms are visible during the first three to four weeks. in the fourth to sixth week of growth the first signs of def appear. interneinal yellowing and irregular rust-brown spots appear on older and middle aged leaves. younger leaves remain healthy. leaf tips yellow and turn brown and curl upwards as the def progresses. rust-brown spots multiply and interveinal yellowing increases. rust-brown spots and yellowing progress, starting at the bottom of the plant and advancing towards the top of the entire plant. younger leaves develope same symptoms. the leaves dry and die in extreme cases.

if this fits you scenario..

TREAT DEF. (gonna summarize this... lol)
water with 2 tsp, epsom salts per gal of water
for fast results spray leaves with a 2% epsom foliage spray
it will start from the top and fix its way down... water with the epsom salt until the entire plant is fine... over a couple weeks...


hope this is the answer you need... just dont know how many overall weeks of growth your plants have to know if this is the answer...

far to much epson salts

.
use i small level teaspoon per gallon of water(4.5 litres) and only use it with one watering and see what transpires over the next few days.
i had a MG defficiency but only had 3 plants and only needed 2 litres of feed/water to water all my plants so i mixed a good 1/4 teaspoon of salts to my feed/water(2 litres) and watered them only once with the salts added to my feed/water and i could see the difference in 4-5 days.
you must be carefull with the dosages of epsom salts if you give as too much will cause nute lock and give you extra problems you dont want.its far better and safer to give a lower dose than to over do it and that way you will know if its an MG defficiency.
https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=faq&cmd=article&id=171

LUDACRIS.

 

[k3nz1387]

yea i agree think i'll only mix a small teaspoon of salt with a gallon of water. can i just add the water with epsom salts in 2 my feed or should i water seperately?

 

[johnnyblizzo]

ok.. here is mho...

i believe it is a magnesium def...

i was doing some reading and found this is my cheat book...

PROGRESSION OF MAGNESIUM DEF. SYMPTOMS AT A GLANCE
no def symptoms are visible during the first three to four weeks. in the fourth to sixth week of growth the first signs of def appear. interneinal yellowing and irregular rust-brown spots appear on older and middle aged leaves. younger leaves remain healthy. leaf tips yellow and turn brown and curl upwards as the def progresses. rust-brown spots multiply and interveinal yellowing increases. rust-brown spots and yellowing progress, starting at the bottom of the plant and advancing towards the top of the entire plant. younger leaves develope same symptoms. the leaves dry and die in extreme cases.

if this fits you scenario..

TREAT DEF. (gonna summarize this... lol)
water with 2 tsp, epsom salts per gal of water
for fast results spray leaves with a 2% epsom foliage spray
it will start from the top and fix its way down... water with the epsom salt until the entire plant is fine... over a couple weeks...


hope this is the answer you need... just dont know how many overall weeks of growth your plants have to know if this is the answer...

simpson samson i stick to my story i am from jamaica mon right near d beaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaachhhhhh
boooooooooooooooyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
after rereading ur post i agree it looks like boron due to its only affecting the new shoots - g luck

 

[LUDACRIS]

yea i agree think i'll only mix a small teaspoon of salt with a gallon of water. can i just add the water with epsom salts in 2 my feed or should i water seperately?

mix everything together nutes/water and salts in one container and shake well before watering.
let the mix sit for a while at room temp to ensure the salts have dissolved in the mix then shake and feed.
LUDACRIS.

 

[LUDACRIS]

simpson samson i stick to my story i am from jamaica mon right near d beaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaachhhhhh
boooooooooooooooyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
after rereading ur post i agree it looks like boron due to its only affecting the new shoots - g luck

ARE YOU THE NEW PLANT DOCTOR FROM JAMAICA ????????.
OR MAYBE JUST ANOTHER NEWBIE TALKING SHIT ???? .
MAYBE YOU NEED SOME SPELLING LESSONS.
LUDACRIS.

 

[johnnyblizzo]

if you dont know where that's from and from where simpson samson got his name then you obviosuly don't belong here on a forum based on more than just growing - on a whole culture and way of life - you say maybe i need some spelling lessons b/c i shortened some words like many stoners on here often do LMAO NO asshole maybe YOU need to smoke a spliff and chill the fuck out theres no room here for ur bad vibes and horse shit - we r here to heal the nation and you're just transferring that same negative energy into the medicine -on top of that u just made yourself look like a complete ignorant dickhead in front of the whole riu community so go put that in ur pipe and smoke it and chill out

 

[simpsonsampson420]

that could be too much epsom salt.. i was just taking it directly from a book... i havent encountered a mag. def myself so i honestly dont/didnt know that 2 tsp. was too much per gal of water.. just tryin to help.. which i think maybe i did...


and if anyones the new jamaican doctor its me... if i wasn't jamaican why would i be wearing this hat?! wait, I'm cuban B.. ahh yes cuban B... lmao that shit has me in tears... funny funny shit...

 

[LUDACRIS]

if you dont know where that's from and from where simpson samson got his name then you obviosuly don't belong here on a forum based on more than just growing - on a whole culture and way of life - you say maybe i need some spelling lessons b/c i shortened some words like many stoners on here often do LMAO NO asshole maybe YOU need to smoke a spliff and chill the fuck out theres no room here for ur bad vibes and horse shit - we r here to heal the nation and you're just transferring that same negative energy into the medicine -on top of that u just made yourself look like a complete ignorant dickhead in front of the whole riu community so go put that in ur pipe and smoke it and chill out

first off i smoke plenty high grade green everyday and i dont need anymore so that answers your second comment.
secondly i dont give a fuck who simpson samson is and have never heard of him or where that's from and from you quoted ??? .
thirdly i do belong on this site and if you had a brain cell you would look at my profile and see thats the case.maybe you want to toke and talk or get involved with other catogories on this site then thats just sad that you dont have anything better to do.
fourthly you might be here to heal the nation but i am only interested in growing and helping people out with advice about growing(thats all) and i totally agree with you on your point that i am a complete ignorant dickhead and i am proud of that fact i love pissing people like you off or anyone else that i dislike or annoys me it gives me something to do and i makes me laugh because the truth hurts people like yourself that dont know any better and thats just the way i am.i can only be the person i am which is a complete arrogant disrespectfull selfish wank thats only been raised to create chaos and trouble.is that so bad that i am brutal to the bone ????? and to top that one off why do i have 20 friends listed on my profile if i am so bad and my so called bad vibes and horseshit is only your opinion and that counts for nothing as you seem to be the only one with the problem ???.
so go light your josticks get on your rasta gear fix your dreadlocks and go smoke a bong and just to finish off i dont smoke pipes i preferr blunts.
so call me what you want try something real aggresive and different like cock sucker/motherfucker/faggot/liar/thief/cheat/bullshitter/wife beater/drunk/junkie etc etc. use your imagination if you have any.
keep in touch with yourself.
LUDACRIS.