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Furthur

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but can you really back up that ultimatum? weed > sex. sex > weed. that one's hard, I think they go hand in hand.

I don't think two additional lights would be bad, it'd still add to your total lumens regardless of color temp but you might experience more vertical growth during flower.
 

Eddie G.

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but can you really back up that ultimatum? weed > sex. sex > weed. that one's hard, I think they go hand in hand.

I don't think two additional lights would be bad, it'd still add to your total lumens regardless of color temp but you might experience more vertical growth during flower.

yeah bro im going to try to add as many 42watt=150 watt warm white cfl's as i can... ill put them under and on the sides if its needed... i like cfls cause they dont produce 2 much heat wich is good for my setup..
 

laundrybag

Active Member
but can you really back up that ultimatum? weed > sex. sex > weed.
ahh, i was kidding, she don't smoke anyway.
i was able to spend the money on a DIY aeroponic cloner/vegger
so i'm gaining ground without having to cut her off :)

but you might experience more vertical growth during flower.
why do you say that?
i read stinkbuds account of adding a 6500k MH light to his flowering cycle
and it actually made the plants not stretch as much as usual
i also have read about lighting in general and that's the impression i got from all it too
 

Furthur

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I didn't mean stretching, the plants continue to grow up during flower a little bit regardless anyway, correct?(more or less depending on strain) I just thought it might bolster that. I guess it might have to do with positioning of the lights too.
 

Eddie G.

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Hey guys! can any of you tell me where you got your y-adapters at? I cant seem to find them at home dep. any web will do as well. Thanks
hey bro i got mine at ACE hardware and thats kind of weird u say that home depot dont got them cause over here in the states they have them, they run at like 3ish dollars for each Y splitter... even walmart has them...

and yeah man im pretty excited about my plants... they are looking more goregeous everyday.. lets just hope that they are all female wich isnt likely but hey its possible lol.. and yeah man cfls can really give good yielding plants if done correctly... for my second grow i might get a hps light but for right now im happy with my cfls...
 
Hey! anythings possible. Ill keep my fingers crossed for ya. Ill have to look a bit harder I see, Thanks for the input and best of luck with the grow.Im working on 10xgranddaddy purps and a white widow all clones so they deff. females. setting up a tent in the same room so i will need the cfls due to heat issues from HIDs in the room. Anyhoo luck be with ya
 

Eddie G.

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Hey! anythings possible. Ill keep my fingers crossed for ya. Ill have to look a bit harder I see, Thanks for the input and best of luck with the grow.Im working on 10xgranddaddy purps and a white widow all clones so they deff. females. setting up a tent in the same room so i will need the cfls due to heat issues from HIDs in the room. Anyhoo luck be with ya
haha yeah bro im gonna need the luck since its my first grow.. but i feel like ive learned and picked up a few things so its not like im completely walking in the dark,,, do u have a grow journal? cause i would follow that for sure!
good luck to u 2 bro and thanks :peace:
 
no journals yet im a noob here not even sure how to start a new post yet lol but im getting braver so we'll see in the future. I like these forums and will deff. be around. keeping an eye out later man good luck
 

KaliKitsune

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Okay, I've done a little deeper research on this floodlight, specifically on the bulb which is what matters.

First off - 105 lumens per watt. My T5HO lamps do 92 lumens per watt. I already get damned good results with my T5HO lamps.

Secondly - 6500K color temp. Great for vegging. Also helps give more of an idea of the spectrum balance. More blue oriented.

Third - lumens don't simply 'add up' the way people think they do, so the brighter the bulb the better. Three of these at 100w would kick the crap out of ten 30w CFLs pulling 300w.

Fourth - effective growing range given power considerations. The 10,500 lux at the bulb, compared to my T5HO 5,000 lux at the bulb, means much further effective lighting distance, and thus better canopy penetration. With that reflector, that's a very nice amount of light. That could do well for three small compact plants, or really kick some butt for a scrog.

Hands down I wish I had that light just to test. It looks like it would compete pretty hardcore against my T5HO arrays.
 

laundrybag

Active Member
Third - lumens don't simply 'add up' the way people think they do, so the brighter the bulb the better. Three of these at 100w would kick the crap out of ten 30w CFLs pulling 300w.
first - sorry to bring this back after it's been dead almost 3 weeks

second - thanks KaliKitsune, that exactly what i was trying to say. except you did it very nicely

you mentioned the reflector. i'm not too sure i like it all that well.
the reflector has the outer shell that is gray as you see in the pics. it also has an inner reflector made out of white plastic. there is a small air space between the 2 pieces. the problem with it is that the white piece that is supposed to work as the reflector doesn't work all that well. i know this because the bulb is so damn bright that it shines through the white piece AND the gray piece. there is light coming out the back of this thing. that equals lost light.
but i have taken this thing completely apart and is is VERY easy to use the pieces in a store bought reflector or a DIY reflector.

you also mention you would like to try this light out. do you have a home depot near you? if yes, call them, ask what their return policy is. probably the standard "90 days".
go buy one and try it for 89 days. if you don't like it return and get your 70 dollars back.
i don't think it would be "underhanded/dishonest" to do this. because if you end up not liking it then it truly does not fit you needs and that IS a valid reason for a return.
 

Mysticlown150

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I wouldnt buy that thing lol. For like 80 more bucks you can get a 400 watt hps with ballast. Some guy posted the site and he payed like $150 for his.
 

laundrybag

Active Member
I wouldnt buy that thing lol. For like 80 more bucks you can get a 400 watt hps with ballast. Some guy posted the site and he payed like $150 for his.
CFL = no heat issues = for people that grow in small cabs or closets that cant vent properly

with a 6 inch generic fan i paid 8 dollars for blowing at the bulb i can put my hand on it and not really feel it
hold my finger tips less than an inch from the bulb and i feel no heat at all

read the post by KaliKitsune and you should realize why this light would be good for cfl growers
 

Mysticlown150

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CFL = no heat issues = for people that grow in small cabs or closets that cant vent properly

with a 6 inch generic fan i paid 8 dollars for blowing at the bulb i can put my hand on it and not really feel it
hold my finger tips less than an inch from the bulb and i feel no heat at all
No heat issues but pigmy ass plants lol. Nah not knocking any cfl people.
 

laundrybag

Active Member
pigmy ass plants lol.
better than no plants

although i do realize what you are saying about HPS. i was going to use hps to flower with but wife shut me down so friend has my stuff now

first seed that he popped is almost 3 weeks and has 5 nodes
i bet it will be 5 inches when 6th node is developed well
i've never grown but have read a lot about it and stayed at holiday in express last night;-) so i'm guessing this is good for a cfl
 

robert 14617

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Color Rendering Index(CRI)

The CRI is an indication of a lamps ability to show individual colors relative to a standard. This value is determined from a comparison of the lamp's spectral distribution compared to a black body at the same color temperature. Light sources, such as metal halide lamps, are rated with a CCT; however, CCT does not provide any information on the quality of the color. For this, a CRI is also necessary. In general, the higher the CRI rating of a lamp, the better the different colors will show.


5K - 7K Kelvin: Strong Blue Light
Promotes bushy growth. Ideal for rapid growth phase of plants.
Greatly enhances all-around plant growth when used with super
high output, high pressure sodium or 3K warm metal halide lamps.



that CFL will be fine for veg.growth
 

KaliKitsune

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Well, there are still heat issues with CFL lamps. CFLs do get hot. The actual surface temperature of a CFL bulb can get above 140 degrees, no problem. The more powerful the light, the hotter it's going to get. I've used 30w CFL lights for a home-built evaporation chamber for gathering resin from pipes. Plastic tupperware container, CFL set one inch underneath it and turned on, add the resin-soaked alcohol, let the CFL light do the rest. Come back four hours later, alcohol gone, tupperware container is about 120 degrees.

Also, the fact the ballast and bulb are so close together creates another issue (concentrated area of heat build-up) but also removes one issue that standard HID lamps have (easier to cool both bulb and ballast to maintain efficiency.)
 
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