DaGambler's 4k HPS 99 Plant Hempy Grow
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M Blaze
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Thats fo sure
tilemaster
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ya i fully agree off the chain...im jealous of those rooms for sure...youtube videos clean..u should contact Urban grower and see if theres a perk 2 doin an episode...i wuz thinkin 7x7 on my new veg area..approx size of the existing flower room thats being torn down next month. 1000w mh..u have any suggestions..i c ur veg area is a entire room..but i cant build that big ...my garage wont hold it..after i redesing my bud room 2 large in charge deminsions...plann on runnin somewhere aroudn 3-5k of light for sure. im already runnin 2k
mygirls
Medical Marijuana (MOD)
you know i have left him massage after massage.would like him to come down when my new rooms are all set up. oh ah
thanks 4 coming by, ya'll
heheh... i'm old school, i'd rather see my name 'up in lights' in an issue of High Times magazine. But for now, i think i'll just stick to trying to hit it and quit it.
ya, i don't know man, i'm still trying to get the gist of your journal, it's a formidable undertaking(quite long) some flouro's on some shelves would be nice for clones and such before the 1k MH. That would keep you well supplied for 2-4 1k HPS lamps in flower. It just a matter of the space that you have available. If footprint is a serious issue you could always consider growing vertically, which i have never done. If you give me total dimensions of the area that you have available i'd be happy to tell you how i think you can best utilize the space for maximum yeild.
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tilemaster
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hmm well i just re measured....i wuz thinking flower room 12 x12 . maybe a lil bigger. and my veg area basically like a 5x5 or lil bigger..with recessed spaces for clones added in.
hmm... okay so for the flower room, the footprint isn't the problem. it's just a question of how many lamps you want to be firing. each 1k hps will cover a 4 by 5 area pretty good, with the 'sides' of the bulb giving the greater spread of light.
as far as the veg area goes (5' by 5')... the 1k MH you were talking about would deffinitely be plenty... but you might be better off increasing the floorprint by having 2 shelves with a 600w hps (or mh) on each shelf... or by having 3 or 4 shelves with like 3-4 four foot flouro's (2 bulb fixtures) on each shelf.
another way to figure things out is to know what equipment you are going to have on hand
since space won't really be the limiting factor. i guess you've got 'x' number of cfl's ... a 400hps ... a 600hps ... a 1000hps and ur thinkin about gett'in a 1000mh... ?"my caregiver just let me peep his setup..all i can say is real serious..30x20 flower room...10x10 veg area..greenhouse 20plant strong too w/ 4ft outdoors plants..prob close to 200plants..bud room had probably 10 x 1000whps..veg room was 2 1000w mh..w 6'' can fan pulln heat from em. fattest healthiest plants ive ever seen..he said he'd give me 2ft clones..in big pots so i can jsut start flowering with no real vegtime. said he'd work with me on the pricing. im absolutely now convinced mh is where its at for veg, and big wattage too."
I'm still getting caught up on ur journal... i really would have liked to of seen that. but hell, man, you don't need advice from me... you've seen how its done for real
!! and that buddy or yours will prolly have some good ideas. if he's somehow running 10 1k hps lights with no a.c. ... he's doing something right..
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tilemaster
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okay lighting wise i have a switchable mh /hps 400...a hps 600 and a 1000hps..also have like 16 26 watter cfl on hand..but i kinda wanna jsut buy a 1000w mh...and also 3 more 1000whps..ditch the 600 ..parts never hurt...
i agree w/ u on shelving thing..the less back breaking i can design this the better..i like the floro idea cause of $$savings..but id probably just need a 2footer for my ezcloner ill be buyn ..then out of the cloner they can sit under the floro and then go st8 under the big dog mh..
as far as the flower room i wuz thinking ive got the existing 1000watter..i think i need to upgrade the hood from the extrasun to the next 1 up with the 6 in flanges..buy 3 more of these..and run 2 series of 2 1000watter in the bud room..2 acitve air 6 in hydrofarm exhaust fan...(already have the 1)..to pull and air cool the hoods..wut u think.. maybe ill go much bigger w. the veg room to give the 5x5 to the 1000watter, and still have room for the shelving and cloner...right?
i agree w/ u on shelving thing..the less back breaking i can design this the better..i like the floro idea cause of $$savings..but id probably just need a 2footer for my ezcloner ill be buyn ..then out of the cloner they can sit under the floro and then go st8 under the big dog mh..
as far as the flower room i wuz thinking ive got the existing 1000watter..i think i need to upgrade the hood from the extrasun to the next 1 up with the 6 in flanges..buy 3 more of these..and run 2 series of 2 1000watter in the bud room..2 acitve air 6 in hydrofarm exhaust fan...(already have the 1)..to pull and air cool the hoods..wut u think.. maybe ill go much bigger w. the veg room to give the 5x5 to the 1000watter, and still have room for the shelving and cloner...right?
hmm... okay so for the flower room, the footprint isn't the problem. it's just a question of how many lamps you want to be firing. each 1k hps will cover a 4 by 5 area pretty good, with the 'sides' of the bulb giving the greater spread of light.
as far as the veg area goes (5' by 5')... the 1k MH you were talking about would deffinitely be plenty... but you might be better off increasing the floorprint by having 2 shelves with a 600w hps (or mh) on each shelf... or by having 3 or 4 shelves with like 3-4 four foot flouro's (2 bulb fixtures) on each shelf.
another way to figure things out is to know what equipment you are going to have on hand
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This is the current clone crop around day 8 or 9. The domes came off on day 7... and i saw some white fuzz mold on about 6 of them; indicating they had plenty of water to start with. So i misted all of them with some RO water and 1 tablespoon per gallon of H2O2. Skipped the 'drink of water' i had planned for them... and have just been misting them for a couple days here. Kept the domes off to allow them to dry out a little. Havn't lost any yet, still at 240.
Down to around 101 containers from 108 in the flower room... may lose up to 2 more from the Neem Oil fiasco, as well as already pulling a couple of the under-performing auto-flowering buckets. Still at around 200 mommies.
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Down to around 101 containers from 108 in the flower room... may lose up to 2 more from the Neem Oil fiasco, as well as already pulling a couple of the under-performing auto-flowering buckets. Still at around 200 mommies.
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dankmango
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lookin real nice, I usually stay on the misting n thats why I never cover them up. look like they are off n running. I just lost one yesterday, didnt pack in the dirt tight enough, looked as if it was not touching anything underground so it dried out.
I love cups of dirt, my argument is that roots have forever grown in the dirt, throw some cuttings in dirt and roots are bound to grow. Plus I use mircle gro soil so i just use plain water and dont have to worry about nutes that way. I also dont cut the tips of leaves anymore, looks like you didnt cut them either. Try some spray-n-gro if you ever have any around, I give it to clones as often as I make it and they always look happier after it. just zinc n something else I think. I also use it after taking cuttings, and transplanting, and any other reason I can think of.
do you cut off dead leaves when you transplant or do they just fall off whenever they want?(on the clones)
I love cups of dirt, my argument is that roots have forever grown in the dirt, throw some cuttings in dirt and roots are bound to grow. Plus I use mircle gro soil so i just use plain water and dont have to worry about nutes that way. I also dont cut the tips of leaves anymore, looks like you didnt cut them either. Try some spray-n-gro if you ever have any around, I give it to clones as often as I make it and they always look happier after it. just zinc n something else I think. I also use it after taking cuttings, and transplanting, and any other reason I can think of.
do you cut off dead leaves when you transplant or do they just fall off whenever they want?(on the clones)
Ya, i go with M.G. Seed Starting Mix just cuz it has less nutes in it than regular M.G. soil. And still use plain water for a long time after the rooting hormone Dip N' Grow.
I didn't bother to 'tip' the leaves this time... just shoved them up under the domes - not worrying too much if they were pushing against them or not. worked fine. I trimmed some yellows off on day 9... and i'll clean them up again at 9 weeks when they are transplanted into the perlite in the flower room... and once or twice during flowering.
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I didn't bother to 'tip' the leaves this time... just shoved them up under the domes - not worrying too much if they were pushing against them or not. worked fine. I trimmed some yellows off on day 9... and i'll clean them up again at 9 weeks when they are transplanted into the perlite in the flower room... and once or twice during flowering.
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tilemaster
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hey i jsut caught u were reading in my thread about my boy..ya hes a main co operative grower..goin real big for sure..how hes able to do that without a/c ..im in MT now..so even tho it gets hot...shaded air like on the northside of my home remains cool..and well the winters are like 7 months out the year..and freezing..i got a good look at his setup..would love to take pics..but he'd kill me..2 series of lights, 5 in each.. he had multiple fans and they vented directly outside...its in a garage..he took of the garage door , framed it in . . sheeted it..sided it..and pulls a 12'' intake off the front false garage door..
I hope u dont mind this post gambler..but here it is..
LIVINGSTON, Mont. Downtown Livingston has gone to pot.
In the open garage doorway of a small white warehouse, six blocks from the Park County Sheriff's Office and minutes from the nouveau eateries and art galleries where tourists stroll, Homer Terry churns ice into a five-gallon bucket of marijuana.
It's a hot Friday afternoon. The whir of Terry's power drill and stir paddle mixes with the shovel chucks of a nearby railroad crew spreading gravel. He gives the customary Montana greeting of a slight head nod and an easy smile to passers-by, but otherwise he keeps working, blending bits of marijuana into a potent smokable paste.
Some would say Terry is making hashish, but the man with drill in hand churning an icy drink of cannabis prefers to say he's harvesting "tri-chromes," that is, the secretions of resins rich in THC forming on the exterior of discarded marijuana plant matter. Others would say Terry and the other half-dozen volunteers toiling on the northern edge of a busy thoroughfare in this sleepy railroad town are growing dope.
Terry, a volunteer at the medical-marijuana growing co-op, would say he's making medicine. And the state of Montana agrees.
It has been four years since Montana voters cast an overwhelming vote to legalize medical marijuana. The ballot initiative, allowing patients with a doctor's referral to grow as many as six marijuana plants for medicinal purposes, garnered more voter support that November than Gov. Brian Schweitzer or U.S. Rep. Denny Rehberg.
In practice, however the law is receiving mixed reviews. Patient groups and legally sanctioned growers say they now navigate a vague legal path with enough unexpected curves to send some, unintentionally, into violation of drug laws.
Likewise, law enforcement officials say they are seeing the emergence of a marijuana culture they didn't expect, with a few large indoor marijuana farms and a shield of confidentiality preventing detectives from determining whether business is being done according to law.
In practice, medical marijuana didn't take root right away in Montana. Even after the law passed with 63 percent approval Nov. 2, 2004, newspaper accounts of the vote suggested that "Montanans suffering from certain medical conditions may be able to legally smoke marijuana" with emphasis on the word "may," not "can." Prior to the vote, Montanans were warned by U.S. deputy drug czar Scott Burns that federal law trumps state law and that Montana wouldn't be a safe harbor for legal cannabis.
Except for a few incidents, however, medical marijuana in Montana hasn't resulted in many arrests by federal or state officials. State registration of patients approved to use medical marijuana has more than tripled in the last year, said Roy Kemp, who issues medical-marijuana licenses for the state Department of Public Health and Human Services.
"We had 1,280 registered patients this July," said Kemp, who receives 40 to 50 applications a week. "We had 358 last July."
State health officials run a registry of patients, Kemp said. It tracks the number of participating doctors, currently 162, as well as the number of appointed caregivers, 386. The state never discloses the names of the people involved to anyone, including police.
What Kemp will disclose are the categories of qualifying conditions into which registrants fall. Patients suffering from severe and chronic pain with nausea or muscle spasms represent 70 percent of those registered for what's conversationally called a green card, a plastic medical-marijuana license good for one year. Patients suffering from severe seizures coupled with severe nausea and muscle spasms are the second largest group, at 11 percent.
One patient's experience included in the remaining 8 percent of registered patients is Donna Woodworth, who has struggled with diminishing weight since being treated for colon cancer 25 years ago. Appetite loss due to medical treatment or chronic condition is one of about a dozen conditions covered by the state medical-marijuana law.
"Suddenly, I can eat what I call my old-lady diet," said Woodworth, "yogurt and mashed potatoes and some bread. Basically that's what I eat."
Since being approved for medical marijuana, Woodworth said, her body weight has increased from 80 pounds to 112. Using cannabis is not an easy subject to talk about, said Woodworth, who lives in Livingston and receives her marijuana from Montana Caregivers, a registered corporation that grows marijuana for some 50 medical-marijuana patients.
Marijuana use bears a stigma with or without the state card, said Woodworth, who nervously spoke of her experience while standing in Montana Caregivers' Park Avenue office. People who casually know she uses cannabis assume she's doing something wrong.
At the mention of implied wrongdoing, grower Ronita Minnick begins to laugh. She, her husband, David, and another grower formed a sort of co-op and started growing medical marijuana a year ago. Friends then were warning that they were all going to jail. They've been waiting for the bad news ever since.
"There were a lot of people saying, 'You're not in jail yet?' " said Minnick. "And some are still saying 'You're not in jail?' "
'Caregivers' with green thumbs
The Minnicks are registered patients. Ronita has a degenerative diabetic eye disease. Dave's spine was injured in an auto accident that causes him chronic pain. But they're also caregivers, the term used by the state to identify people chosen by patients to grow medical marijuana.
Caregivers have to be selected by a patient. No selection, no authorization to grow marijuana legally. Each patient is allowed to have up to six marijuana plants. A caregiver with several patients can have a pretty big crop. The growers in Minnicks' co-op are raising about 300 medical-marijuana plants in multiple stages under grow lights inside a secured building.
The operation is legitimate under state medical-marijuana standards, but the setting mirrors a noncertified operation. There are smoking pipes and rolling papers in the break room, along with smoke-free marijuana vaporizers for patients concerned about carcinogens.
The varieties of marijuana grown sport names like AK-47, White Widow and Kush. Different varieties produce different highs.
"It's a large grow operation," said Tim Barnes, a detective with the Missouri River Drug Task Force. "Minnick was in the newspapers, so we've always known what was going on. Dave's pretty much been forthcoming."
Lingering legal questions
Dave Minnick not only invited the detectives to check out his crop, he said he approached the Park County attorney before he got going so law enforcement wouldn't be alarmed. They were still alarmed, Minnick said. The county prosecutor first told Minnick to leave, then called in a deputy and asked the caregiver to stay once he realized Minnick wasn't joking.
Barnes isn't sure large grow operations were expected when the medical-marijuana initiative passed. It's one of many issues he thinks the law overlooked or ignored. Growers aren't required to keep records, and because state records are tightly guarded, it's difficult to determine if the marijuana is being grown for registered patients and if the amount of marijuana grown exceeds the limit of six plants per patient.
Barnes also has concerns about caregivers growing a small number of plants in homes where children are present. And he's not entirely convinced everyone registered for medical marijuana needs it. There is no age limit for legally using medical marijuana.
"One of the things that concerns me is that more people are moving here because they can have access to medical marijuana," Barnes said. "It's all over the state, not just here."
Patients and caregivers have concerns, too, said Tom Daubert, with Patients and Families United, an advocacy group for medical-marijuana users.
Working with law enforcement, Daubert and others are trying to work some of the kinks out of the state law. Patients and Families United would like to see some allowances for transportation by nonpatients. Patients too ill to travel now must rely on caregiver home delivery or courier, which poses problems because only patients and caregivers can possess the drug. Barnes and other detectives want more accountability written into the law.
One Missoula patient committed suicide last year after drug enforcement agents seized her marijuana because it was sent through United Parcel Service.
The group would also like to increase the amount of marijuana a patient is allowed to have on hand from an ounce, roughly a lunch bag full, to a larger amount. The group lobbied the 2007 Legislature to make the changes, but to no avail.
Federal officials would like to put the kibosh on medical marijuana, in part because they believe it undermines drug prevention programs such as the elementary school program Drug Abuse Resistance Education, or DARE.
"I don't have a lot of huge worries about it because I trust Americans to fix what they break, but I'm worried about the message we're sending to our kids. That's a tragedy," said Jeffrey Sweetin, special agent in charge of the Rocky Mountain Division of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency. "The kids that flunked DARE are now telling your kids, my kids, that this is medicine."
Marijuana is classified as a Schedule I narcotic, meaning that the federal government believes it has no useful purpose. Doctors can't prescribe the drug without breaking the law, they can only recommend it. Government agencies like the National Institutes of Health have argued for years that marijuana is damaging, Sweetin said. That argument was not heard in states where marijuana advocates have persuaded voters to allow medical marijuana.
"Please understand, we don't ignore marijuana grow operations," Sweetin said. "I assure you, there are thresholds at every U.S. attorney's office."
Not all doctors agree that marijuana is harmful. Ed Stickney, a retired physician in Billings, has written referrals for several patients. He said that particularly in pain cases, marijuana poses less of an addiction threat than powerful painkillers like OxyContin.
"I contend that if it were discovered today, marijuana would be considered a miracle drug," Stickney said.
I hope u dont mind this post gambler..but here it is..
LIVINGSTON, Mont. Downtown Livingston has gone to pot.
In the open garage doorway of a small white warehouse, six blocks from the Park County Sheriff's Office and minutes from the nouveau eateries and art galleries where tourists stroll, Homer Terry churns ice into a five-gallon bucket of marijuana.
It's a hot Friday afternoon. The whir of Terry's power drill and stir paddle mixes with the shovel chucks of a nearby railroad crew spreading gravel. He gives the customary Montana greeting of a slight head nod and an easy smile to passers-by, but otherwise he keeps working, blending bits of marijuana into a potent smokable paste.
Some would say Terry is making hashish, but the man with drill in hand churning an icy drink of cannabis prefers to say he's harvesting "tri-chromes," that is, the secretions of resins rich in THC forming on the exterior of discarded marijuana plant matter. Others would say Terry and the other half-dozen volunteers toiling on the northern edge of a busy thoroughfare in this sleepy railroad town are growing dope.
Terry, a volunteer at the medical-marijuana growing co-op, would say he's making medicine. And the state of Montana agrees.
It has been four years since Montana voters cast an overwhelming vote to legalize medical marijuana. The ballot initiative, allowing patients with a doctor's referral to grow as many as six marijuana plants for medicinal purposes, garnered more voter support that November than Gov. Brian Schweitzer or U.S. Rep. Denny Rehberg.
In practice, however the law is receiving mixed reviews. Patient groups and legally sanctioned growers say they now navigate a vague legal path with enough unexpected curves to send some, unintentionally, into violation of drug laws.
Likewise, law enforcement officials say they are seeing the emergence of a marijuana culture they didn't expect, with a few large indoor marijuana farms and a shield of confidentiality preventing detectives from determining whether business is being done according to law.
In practice, medical marijuana didn't take root right away in Montana. Even after the law passed with 63 percent approval Nov. 2, 2004, newspaper accounts of the vote suggested that "Montanans suffering from certain medical conditions may be able to legally smoke marijuana" with emphasis on the word "may," not "can." Prior to the vote, Montanans were warned by U.S. deputy drug czar Scott Burns that federal law trumps state law and that Montana wouldn't be a safe harbor for legal cannabis.
Except for a few incidents, however, medical marijuana in Montana hasn't resulted in many arrests by federal or state officials. State registration of patients approved to use medical marijuana has more than tripled in the last year, said Roy Kemp, who issues medical-marijuana licenses for the state Department of Public Health and Human Services.
"We had 1,280 registered patients this July," said Kemp, who receives 40 to 50 applications a week. "We had 358 last July."
State health officials run a registry of patients, Kemp said. It tracks the number of participating doctors, currently 162, as well as the number of appointed caregivers, 386. The state never discloses the names of the people involved to anyone, including police.
What Kemp will disclose are the categories of qualifying conditions into which registrants fall. Patients suffering from severe and chronic pain with nausea or muscle spasms represent 70 percent of those registered for what's conversationally called a green card, a plastic medical-marijuana license good for one year. Patients suffering from severe seizures coupled with severe nausea and muscle spasms are the second largest group, at 11 percent.
One patient's experience included in the remaining 8 percent of registered patients is Donna Woodworth, who has struggled with diminishing weight since being treated for colon cancer 25 years ago. Appetite loss due to medical treatment or chronic condition is one of about a dozen conditions covered by the state medical-marijuana law.
"Suddenly, I can eat what I call my old-lady diet," said Woodworth, "yogurt and mashed potatoes and some bread. Basically that's what I eat."
Since being approved for medical marijuana, Woodworth said, her body weight has increased from 80 pounds to 112. Using cannabis is not an easy subject to talk about, said Woodworth, who lives in Livingston and receives her marijuana from Montana Caregivers, a registered corporation that grows marijuana for some 50 medical-marijuana patients.
Marijuana use bears a stigma with or without the state card, said Woodworth, who nervously spoke of her experience while standing in Montana Caregivers' Park Avenue office. People who casually know she uses cannabis assume she's doing something wrong.
At the mention of implied wrongdoing, grower Ronita Minnick begins to laugh. She, her husband, David, and another grower formed a sort of co-op and started growing medical marijuana a year ago. Friends then were warning that they were all going to jail. They've been waiting for the bad news ever since.
"There were a lot of people saying, 'You're not in jail yet?' " said Minnick. "And some are still saying 'You're not in jail?' "
'Caregivers' with green thumbs
The Minnicks are registered patients. Ronita has a degenerative diabetic eye disease. Dave's spine was injured in an auto accident that causes him chronic pain. But they're also caregivers, the term used by the state to identify people chosen by patients to grow medical marijuana.
Caregivers have to be selected by a patient. No selection, no authorization to grow marijuana legally. Each patient is allowed to have up to six marijuana plants. A caregiver with several patients can have a pretty big crop. The growers in Minnicks' co-op are raising about 300 medical-marijuana plants in multiple stages under grow lights inside a secured building.
The operation is legitimate under state medical-marijuana standards, but the setting mirrors a noncertified operation. There are smoking pipes and rolling papers in the break room, along with smoke-free marijuana vaporizers for patients concerned about carcinogens.
The varieties of marijuana grown sport names like AK-47, White Widow and Kush. Different varieties produce different highs.
"It's a large grow operation," said Tim Barnes, a detective with the Missouri River Drug Task Force. "Minnick was in the newspapers, so we've always known what was going on. Dave's pretty much been forthcoming."
Lingering legal questions
Dave Minnick not only invited the detectives to check out his crop, he said he approached the Park County attorney before he got going so law enforcement wouldn't be alarmed. They were still alarmed, Minnick said. The county prosecutor first told Minnick to leave, then called in a deputy and asked the caregiver to stay once he realized Minnick wasn't joking.
Barnes isn't sure large grow operations were expected when the medical-marijuana initiative passed. It's one of many issues he thinks the law overlooked or ignored. Growers aren't required to keep records, and because state records are tightly guarded, it's difficult to determine if the marijuana is being grown for registered patients and if the amount of marijuana grown exceeds the limit of six plants per patient.
Barnes also has concerns about caregivers growing a small number of plants in homes where children are present. And he's not entirely convinced everyone registered for medical marijuana needs it. There is no age limit for legally using medical marijuana.
"One of the things that concerns me is that more people are moving here because they can have access to medical marijuana," Barnes said. "It's all over the state, not just here."
Patients and caregivers have concerns, too, said Tom Daubert, with Patients and Families United, an advocacy group for medical-marijuana users.
Working with law enforcement, Daubert and others are trying to work some of the kinks out of the state law. Patients and Families United would like to see some allowances for transportation by nonpatients. Patients too ill to travel now must rely on caregiver home delivery or courier, which poses problems because only patients and caregivers can possess the drug. Barnes and other detectives want more accountability written into the law.
One Missoula patient committed suicide last year after drug enforcement agents seized her marijuana because it was sent through United Parcel Service.
The group would also like to increase the amount of marijuana a patient is allowed to have on hand from an ounce, roughly a lunch bag full, to a larger amount. The group lobbied the 2007 Legislature to make the changes, but to no avail.
Federal officials would like to put the kibosh on medical marijuana, in part because they believe it undermines drug prevention programs such as the elementary school program Drug Abuse Resistance Education, or DARE.
"I don't have a lot of huge worries about it because I trust Americans to fix what they break, but I'm worried about the message we're sending to our kids. That's a tragedy," said Jeffrey Sweetin, special agent in charge of the Rocky Mountain Division of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency. "The kids that flunked DARE are now telling your kids, my kids, that this is medicine."
Marijuana is classified as a Schedule I narcotic, meaning that the federal government believes it has no useful purpose. Doctors can't prescribe the drug without breaking the law, they can only recommend it. Government agencies like the National Institutes of Health have argued for years that marijuana is damaging, Sweetin said. That argument was not heard in states where marijuana advocates have persuaded voters to allow medical marijuana.
"Please understand, we don't ignore marijuana grow operations," Sweetin said. "I assure you, there are thresholds at every U.S. attorney's office."
Not all doctors agree that marijuana is harmful. Ed Stickney, a retired physician in Billings, has written referrals for several patients. He said that particularly in pain cases, marijuana poses less of an addiction threat than powerful painkillers like OxyContin.
"I contend that if it were discovered today, marijuana would be considered a miracle drug," Stickney said.
tilemaster
Well-Known Member
hey i thought u might find it interesting..and althou i cant photograph this particular op, as u can c my partner has been very forecomeing about his op with the media at least..
Day 10 Clone Room and Flower Room:
Lowered the lights all the way on the clones, it's time for them to sink or swim. At least one of them failed to thrive for some reason or another. This is the only time that i find a moisture meter very handy for checking out how moist the root zone actually is.
Lost those other 2 buckets in the flower room... down to 99. Also had to chop 6 of the white russians cuz they had more balls than tits. Woops, getting sloppy. Each of those buckets still had another plant in it. But this shite is very frustrating some times. Deffinitely makes me want to tighten my game up. The 6 lbs. (goal) is still a possibility... but with every mistake it gets a little harder. I always seem to learn my lessons the hard way.
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Lowered the lights all the way on the clones, it's time for them to sink or swim. At least one of them failed to thrive for some reason or another. This is the only time that i find a moisture meter very handy for checking out how moist the root zone actually is.
Lost those other 2 buckets in the flower room... down to 99. Also had to chop 6 of the white russians cuz they had more balls than tits. Woops, getting sloppy. Each of those buckets still had another plant in it. But this shite is very frustrating some times. Deffinitely makes me want to tighten my game up. The 6 lbs. (goal) is still a possibility... but with every mistake it gets a little harder. I always seem to learn my lessons the hard way.
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