Is there any reason not to put iced salt water into a bong?

[Your Evil Twin]

I've just got a quickie home made bong that I constructed from a pop bottle, as many of us have probably done. But, it's the first bong I ever used and it's now far and away my favorite way to smoke. For something disposable, I've had it for a month, I enjoy it, and intend to get myself a "real" one when my ass is a little less broke.

But I was feeling inquisitive tonight and I put some fresh ice water in there, and then added some salt because I knew that could make it even colder. I put in some pipe tobacco for a test smoke (alas, I am out of weed ;_, and I was amazed at how smooth the smoke was.

Since I AM out of weed, I can't say for sure, but I IMAGINE it would do the same for pot smoke. And I can't personally think of any reason the salt water would mess things up, but there may be something I'm not seeing.

Lately I've had this almost obsession with reading up on weed, especially on growing and legalization. Even though I've done a lot of homework, on the practical side I'm still pretty new to this even though I first started smoking it seven years ago (there was a long gap in there where I wasn't using it. Not because I didn't want to, I just didn't have any contacts or anyone to smoke WITH).

Sorry, I didn't mean to include my life story!

 

[Mokie]

I don't see why it would make any diffrence?

 

[LiEBE420]

save your coins

 

[Louis541]

Dude, I'm not sure, I don't see why there would be a problem, but I'm definately pullin a chair up for this one. This is a great idea!

 

[tnrtinr]

Did you put the salt water in the freezer to chill?

The act of adding salt to cold water is not going to do anything unless you throw it in the freezer. If you ever need to chill a beer or a drink quick - add salt to water/ice in a small tub and put in the freezer with the can inside. The water is literally cold as ice and it will chill your beer or soda in a few minutes.

It makes perfect sense though - I think saturated salt water freezes at -21. So even if you cant get it that cold (which you most likely cant) you can still have "liquid ice" in your bong.

 

[tnrtinr]

p.s. I dont know if inhaling sodium chloride fumes is good for you...

 

[tnrtinr]

I tried it - Shocked at how much salt that can be dissolved in a glass of water. I couldn't tell a big diffrence other than my bongtfelt colder in my hands. My fridge is only 20F colder that 32F. For me, not worth the effort unless I can drop the temperature to -21.

 

[1lastGodsend]

I put salt on everything. food. Margaritas. Body shots off models. Now my bong. bong in salt. salt in bong.

 

[Jimmy Luffnan]

p.s. I dont know if inhaling sodium chloride fumes is good for you...

Ummm yeah.. I believe tnrtinr is correct on this one...

Perhaps you should google more about these condensing into your respiratory system....

But on another note, if you have a clear glass bong, you should add a little colored food dye (just a little) to the water if it is a little visual effect you are after

Looks very cool seeing bright orange sparks hit light blue water, and unless you smoke 300 cones a day.... your lips shouldn't turn blue! lol

Oh and if you spin your weed, try menthol tobacco for a day and add some ice cubes to the bong.... tastes like an arctic breeze when you blow it out! hahahha

Cheers.

 

[Jobo]

Adding salt to ice/ice water makes the ice melt. When ice melts it pulls heat from its surroundings, thus making the water cooler.

Simple really

 

[Jimmy Luffnan]

Adding salt to ice/ice water makes the ice melt. When ice melts it pulls heat from its surroundings, thus making the water cooler.

Simple really

So what you are creating is a chemical reaction that results in the generation of heat.

How does this generation of heat make the water colder may I ask...?

 

[dum]

So what you are creating is a chemical reaction that results in the generation of heat.

How does this generation of heat make the water colder may I ask...?

Ice does not cause a chemical reaction, what happens is the salt water won't turn to ice so your running the smoke through freezing water. What you should do is make some saltwater, leave it in the freezer overnight and put that in your bong, that way the smoke will be running through 20 degree water. I should also say that cold water cools better than ice.

You are definatley not makeing heat, its just that saltwater freezes at a way colder temp.

 

[tnrtinr]

Adding salt to ice/ice water makes the ice melt. When ice melts it pulls heat from its surroundings, thus making the water cooler.

Simple really

I didnt use ice or cold water. I added salt to warm water because it disolves faster and has a higher carrying capacity when warm - thus making the job faster and easier because if I could reach the carrying capacity when warm I could guarentee that the water would be saturated with salt when it was cold.

I am not a physicist. But I think your logic is flawed - please cite reference so that I can understand better. My understanding is that salt LOWERS the freezing point of ice (that is why they dump it on the roads). I think what you are saying is that if you have a ice cubes in a glass with freezing salt water that the salt will melt the ice and because the ice is colder than 32F it will cool the water / keep the water to a temperature below 32F? I don't believe that it has anything to do with pulling heat from the surroundings but rather than changing the ice from a solid to a liquid forms.

So an ice cube in a 20F freezer is 20F although it froze at 32F. By saturating the water with salt you lower the freezing point of salt water to -21. So now when you pull your water out of the freezer is it still 20F like everything else in the freezer (including ice) except it is in LIQUID form instead of SOLID form.

 

[poplars]

now the next question is, despite this cooled temperature, will the salt vaporize upon contact of hot smoke?

and is this vaporization dangerous.

but personally, I don't think there would be any vaporization of salt whatsoever.

 

[Jimmy Luffnan]

I didnt use ice or cold water. I added salt to warm water because it disolves faster and has a higher carrying capacity when warm - thus making the job faster and easier because if I could reach the carrying capacity when warm I could guarentee that the water would be saturated with salt when it was cold.

I am not a physicist. But I think your logic is flawed - please cite reference so that I can understand better. My understanding is that salt LOWERS the freezing point of ice (that is why they dump it on the roads). I think what you are saying is that if you have a ice cubes in a glass with freezing salt water that the salt will melt the ice and because the ice is colder than 32F it will cool the water / keep the water to a temperature below 32F? I don't believe that it has anything to do with pulling heat from the surroundings but rather than changing the ice from a solid to a liquid forms.

So an ice cube in a 20F freezer is 20F although it froze at 32F. By saturating the water with salt you lower the freezing point of salt water to -21. So now when you pull your water out of the freezer is it still 20F like everything else in the freezer (including ice) except it is in LIQUID form instead of SOLID form.

I must apologize.
Sometimes I feel cheeky and simply ask questions to provoke what others think when I should simply give facts...

In very simple terms, yes... adding salt to water will raise its boiling point and also lower its freezing point.... but I don't think you require the science behind this....

As for the inhalation of salt water, it is done very commonly

Salt follows water, water follows salt... and when you have say... a cold or are stuffy you use warm salty water in bowl and a towel over your head to inhale and clear your lungs/respiratory system...

Why? Because the salt draws moisture and fluid away from your lungs. By inhaling simply water (like you usually do with a bong) it creates an edema effect in your chest, which is why you generally wake up and cough Flem and such after a big night of smoking.....

Using table salt contains iodine, but it can only cause respiratory issues when used in higher doses..... but I would recommend natural sea salt crystals if anything....

So the question remains, is inhaling salt water (no matter how dilute) going to be a positive effect as to the absorption of the marijuana and is it going beneficial to your respiratory system?

 

[Jobo]

I didnt use ice or cold water. I added salt to warm water because it disolves faster and has a higher carrying capacity when warm - thus making the job faster and easier because if I could reach the carrying capacity when warm I could guarentee that the water would be saturated with salt when it was cold.

I am not a physicist. But I think your logic is flawed - please cite reference so that I can understand better. My understanding is that salt LOWERS the freezing point of ice (that is why they dump it on the roads). I think what you are saying is that if you have a ice cubes in a glass with freezing salt water that the salt will melt the ice and because the ice is colder than 32F it will cool the water / keep the water to a temperature below 32F? I don't believe that it has anything to do with pulling heat from the surroundings but rather than changing the ice from a solid to a liquid forms.

So an ice cube in a 20F freezer is 20F although it froze at 32F. By saturating the water with salt you lower the freezing point of salt water to -21. So now when you pull your water out of the freezer is it still 20F like everything else in the freezer (including ice) except it is in LIQUID form instead of SOLID form.

Yup, your right. Thats what I was trying to say but in a shorter way. Same idea.