DaGambler's 4k HPS 99 Plant Hempy Grow

[DaGambler]

Left Side High:

Right Side High:

Left Side Close: Some squatters, 2 weeks younger.

Right Side Close: Some lanky bastards, the older ones.

Corner Shot:

I can see an advantage to flowering at a shorter height... just so they stretch less. I've resisted every urge to top them... so that they will hopefully focus more on a central cola. The taller girls are at least 2 1/2 feet... but the quick stretch should be about over with and they are settling into flowering already at Day 11... perhaps a bit faster than the first go-round because of their genetic age at this point. Currently at around 192 plants... unless i slip on another banana peel
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[dankmango]

lookin good bro. you ever gonna get any co2 or is this it for your setup? definitely better than last go round from what I can see. good job keeping that place clean too.

 

[tilemaster]

ive been thinkn about taking ur advice..on incoroprating wut i already own in2 new setup... i think more or less u were looking out for my finaces..which is tight..cause im tight.. so u may be right..i might jsut frame the bigger spaces..and just get the 1 more 1000watter for mh veg..u say the 50sq i have is good for my numbers and my lighting..i agree really..i just hate how i cant daisy chain them with that box out..the 4 and 6 can be daisy chained..but i gotta turn the 1000watter sideways to fit right. then theres the me issue..im only 6foot..but dude i will not do this crawl in a hatch thing again..plus with the 7x7 and 3 lights..its a real back cramper once the girls fill in.. i went from legally 12 plants to 24 over this grow..so im running at half capacity now..and cramped.. so with all that inmind.. i think im rolling with same equiptent..except the new MH and coresponding 6in fan ill need..and randoms..but i will get both rooms still built...and bigger. room factor has really shown thro since fighting mites, and the need to really get in there and be mobile, with sprays , and spreading them out so they dont touch...

anyways thank u for ur perspective ... nic 2 have 5 like minded 'gamblers' thrown ideas off ea other..gives me alot of good perspective...im not always firn on all cylinders.

also ur updates are lookn grand bro..im sure there are several grows on rui, that all of us destined for this path aspire to get 2. yours Gambler is top ranked. tilemaster

 

[Thundercat]

Beautiful update gambler, those girls are lookin nice. It gonna be interesting to see how much of an increase you get this run, and then again next run once all this has settled in, and you finally get all the kinks worked out!

 

[Smokiethebear]

ight yo Ive been stalkin this site for a min looking for ideas on a new set up and you get the honors of my first post since Im goning to model my grow off of yours(only scaled down) +rep soon as I find out how lol

 

[DaGambler]

lookin good bro. you ever gonna get any co2 or is this it for your setup? definitely better than last go round from what I can see. good job keeping that place clean too.

prolly won't co2. i've got additional amounts from having over a half a dozen large animals living in my home ... around 1200 lbs. of dog plus myself and lots of 'through' flow from a portable a.c. You'd have to get a 'dual-line' portable a.c. to have a nice sealed setup. I've been thinking about not running any a.c. ... and just pulling enough air through to continually keep the room cool. (EDIT) Then maybe i could add another light
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[DaGambler]

..im sure there are several grows on rui, that all of us destined for this path aspire to get 2...

at the risk of giving advice, most people shouldn't tarry too long along that path. Not a good long-term career option ... least around these parts. Hit it and quit it, brotha. But then, i'm not in your shoes. I'd be quite excited about the prospect of doing it legally.
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[DaGambler]

Beautiful update gambler, those girls are lookin nice. It gonna be interesting to see how much of an increase you get this run, and then again next run once all this has settled in, and you finally get all the kinks worked out!

thanks man. any increase would be a good increase. and there are deffinitely still some kinks being worked out.
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[tilemaster]

i feel ur struggle bro..and for that matter..i do the #'s in my head every night..like ur #'s 5every 3 months..is 20x4..good final number for the year..but still not touchn 6figurs.. i want too touch those type of #'s...and it sounds like there is a huge grey area im diving into..i am prepared tho..now i know why ur the Gambler..lol

at the risk of giving advice, most people shouldn't tarry too long along that path. Not a good long-term career option ... least around these parts. Hit it and quit it, brotha. But then, i'm not in your shoes. I'd be quite excited about the prospect of doing it legally.
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[DaGambler]

The Gambler (Kenny Rogers)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn481KcjvMo&feature=related

heheh.
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[JACKMAYOFFER]

Awesome thanks for all your knowledge and thanks for sharing ur journal of your sick ass crop so sick!!!

 

[DaGambler]

Day 14 for the clones... lost two now... but i cheat a little and had back-ups on hand in a glass of water. so I still havn't given up on any of them yet.

Got a smaller 35 gal. rez for the clones. It's too tempting to use the larger rez nuted for the mommies... and i've over-nuted clones in the past, so this will make that less enticing. So i'll be able to maintain two different (reverse osmosis) reservoir nute strengths. Still looking to get a second watering wand and pump setup for the new rez.

hopefully i'll be ordering a 12" inline fan (1060 cfm) in the next couple days. i want to transition to not using a.c. in the flower room (but still using it in the clone room). Tilemasters remarks about his buddy using 10 1k HPS lamps w/o a.c. had me wish'in i was growing out in a greenhouse... with plenty of fresh air. So i'ma give it a try. If it works then i'll be adding a 6th light in the flower room.
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[dankmango]

what are your outside temps bro? mine stay above 85 everyday, I worship my a/c.

 

[Smokiethebear]

i feel ur struggle bro..and for that matter..i do the #'s in my head every night..like ur #'s 5every 3 months..is 20x4..good final number for the year..but still not touchn 6figurs.. i want too touch those type of #'s...and it sounds like there is a huge grey area im diving into..i am prepared tho..now i know why ur the Gambler..lol

Its hard out here for a gangsta yo I too do the numbers every night I got a calculator sittin on my night stand lol Im not trying to hit 6 figures Im looking for mid 5s Im about to order 7packs of bean in the next week or so till trying to plan my room out but I got sometime I cant start up for a couple months

 

[slipperyP]

Nice thread gambler....I missed it till now...subscribed +rep....

 

[MediMary]

Goal: A modest 5 lbs. per crop, 4 crops per year. (EDIT: 6lbs. per crop, 5 crops per year.)
Sensi's G13xHP (Mr. Nice), Serious's White Russian, and some freebie Durban Poison, White Widow, and Power Skunk (all three G13 Labs)

The -Initial- Setup:

(4) 1000w HPS in 15' by 13' flowering room, using a 10' by 10' footprint (Two 5' by 10' areas)
(12) Flourescent T12 four foot two-bulb fixtures in the clone/veg room
(2) 6" inline fans for the Cooltubes, with an emphasis on climate control
(4) oscillating fans in the flower room, each corner
(1) UvonAir3000 Ozone Generator on ceiling
(1) DIY carbon filter with thermostat control for venting hot air in flower room
(1) 65 qt. Dehumidifier in flower room, Humidfier in clone/veg room
(1) space heater, portable a.c. if needed come summer-time (hopefully it won't be needed)
(1) Reverse Osmosis 100 gallon a day filtration system to combat ridiculous tap water
(1) 44 gallon rubbermaid trash can for reservoir with 330 gph submersible pump on hose with wand
(99) 3 gallon buckets filled with perlite and a 1" hole two inches from the bottom that is screened over
(12) 4 cu. ft. bags of perlite, each fills ten 3 gal. pots
(8 ) members of fauna (indoor animals including myself), for a combined total of approx. 1200 lbs. of biological CO2 supplementing organisms.

Assorted timers, extension cords, rolls of mylar, bags of Miracle Grow Seed Starting Mix, styrofoam and clear plastic cups for clones, Dip 'N Gro, General Hydroponics Bloom and Micro (Lucas Formula), M.G. for Tomatoes, Rooting Fertilizer, Neem Oil, Fruit Tree Spray (Pyrethrum), Safer Soap, Malathion, insect traps, micro beasties, H2O2, pH meter, buffer solution, pH Up, ppm meter, light meter, moisture meter, thermometer, humidity meter, couple rolls of romex wire, outlets, surge protectors, 100 amp two-pole breaker, insulated ducting, duct pieces, silver tarps, shelving, paint, caulking, rolls of foil tape, chains, balls of steel, low I.Q., wing and a prayer, etc.

Welcome To My Grow !!! I need some RIU Credibility / Rep ... so don't be stingy ye 'ol bastards !!!

Okay, so Picture 1 is just a shot of the seed/clone/veg setup in a 10' by 10'ish room. Primarily two shelves for plants with a total of (12) 4' two bulb flourescent fixtures. In pic you see a humidifier and a sample of how i clone: the blue cup with a clear cup on top for a humidity dome (though i actually use styrofoam on bottom and have to trim the top lip off the clear cup so that it nests inside the styrofoam one. I use M.G. Seed Starting Mix and Dip 'N Grow. Not pictured, but also in this room is, a 44 gal. reservoir up on a third shelf and a 100 gal. per day Reverse Osmosis system. A 330 h.p. submersible pump fills a water hose that goes into the next room.

Picture 2: (Flower Room) Be scared, be very scared. The scariest thing is that all 6 of these Romex strands (indoor romex) travel underground (w/o conduit) and up into the electric box where they are all connected to a dual pole 100 amp breaker (3 per pole). Aside from the power strip attached to each one, there is no smaller breaker between the 100 amp breaker and the equipment. This takes care of all my electric except for a cord that i ran in for the de-humidifier.

Picture 3: (The Money Shot) Four CoolTubes (two 6" and two 8") on 6" insulated ducting, 2 inline GrowBright fans (52 dB), a oscillating fan in 3 of 4 corners. The clones and mothers are on makeshift plywood still in 16 oz. cups over the awaiting Hempy Buckets (3 gal.) The ballasts are located under the house.

Picture 4: Close-up of watering wand on garden hose, takes about 10 minutes to water the 99 buckets.

Picture 5: DIY carbon filter (Top Down: 6" to 8" reducer, 8" inline fan with thermostat attached to side, a 90 degree 'elbow' that is straight and some aluminum screen which holds about a 2" layer of carbon.)

Picture 6: 65 qt. dehumidifier. May also have to get a portable a.c. unit come summertime.

Picture 7: Ozone Generator for primary odor control. Lamp timer allows for up to 20 on/off settings per day, by the minute. Currently running 10 minutes each hour 20 out of 24 hours.

Picture 8: Just a closer up picture of about 50 clones. There are just beginning to recover from a serious pH problem. I quickly accidified the soil trying to use straight 5.6 pH'd nutes (G.H.) in the 16 oz. cups (without raising the pH of the water to around 6.3). They are doing much better now that i have pulled my head out of my ass.

Thanks for looking !!! I'll try to get an update shortly after putting them each in their own bucket. Which they are due for right now. I let the clones go too long without topping, so right now they are all a bunch of sticks... and I like to grow bushes!
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hey gambler, just stopped through.. things are looking good man, im subscribing to this one,
some good info in here+rep man

peace in

 

[tilemaster]

ya its def possible...my caregiver has like 4 different large fans all connected to atmospheric controllers..and hes pushing his exhaust right thro his roof..not into his attic where it would be bottled up....everthing is proffessionally daisy chained..wish i had a pic for u..it amazed me..and him, that I wuz runnin a/c and he didnt have too..30x20 room..10 lamps..tripped me out..his intake is right thro his sideing 8''..and on the shaded side of his house down low..but he does complain about low RH and seein brown spotting and dry leafs due to the low RH and from wut he says too much air flow...

well i hope the clones take for u...and u can manage getting the 12 incher..im sure thatll help..and the other lamp...shuffle, split the deck, place ur bets..here we go TM

 

[DaGambler]

what are your outside temps bro? mine stay above 85 everyday, I worship my a/c.

ya thats been the temps lately. thats not bad though. My grow has been in up to the low 90's. i could continue to fight it by adding another portable a.c. i have into the mix... but both of them draw an insanse amount of air into the room in the process of cooling it. so why not just 'go with the flow' ... and completely evac. the air in the room. if it'll save me from having to run 2 a.c.'s in there (about 21,000 btu total) ... that electricity could be better used. if i had a 'dual-line' portable a.c. that doesn't displace much (or any) of the rooms air... i'd prolly be happier.
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[DaGambler]

Its hard out here for a gangsta yo I too do the numbers every night I got a calculator sittin on my night stand lol Im not trying to hit 6 figures Im looking for mid 5s Im about to order 7packs of bean in the next week or so till trying to plan my room out but I got sometime I cant start up for a couple months

the legit business venture that i have in mind will probably run about 35-40k start-up costs. (renting / leasing) that's the goal. if i can hit that mark then i'll shut things down ... and give the legal enterprise a go. I'd have to feel real real secure just to grow again for my own pleasure. but to each their own.
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[DaGambler]

ya its def possible...my caregiver has like 4 different large fans all connected to atmospheric controllers..and hes pushing his exhaust right thro his roof..not into his attic where it would be bottled up....everthing is proffessionally daisy chained..wish i had a pic for u..it amazed me..and him, that I wuz runnin a/c and he didnt have too..30x20 room..10 lamps..tripped me out..his intake is right thro his sideing 8''..and on the shaded side of his house down low..but he does complain about low RH and seein brown spotting and dry leafs due to the low RH and from wut he says too much air flow...

well i hope the clones take for u...and u can manage getting the 12 incher..im sure thatll help..and the other lamp...shuffle, split the deck, place ur bets..here we go TM

ya, i exhaust right under the roofs overhang, not into the attic. and the intake should be fairly cool as it either comes through the house or from under the house... the only problem there is that i have 5 ballasts down there heating things up... but that area is still probably as low as the outdoor temps.

i'm not worried about the clones... at day 14 deffinitely more than 90 percent are all showing signs of very active growth. I'll probably only lose a couple. And i cloned a couple extra.

"...shuffle, split the deck, place ur bets..here we go TM"


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