Brown Spots, Should I be Concern?

LastOneLeft

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I recently found these little brown specks on the leaf. I think it might be some some of burn of something but not nutrient burn though. I could be wrong. I'm hoping someone can help me and give me some hand on experience.







Thank you
LastOneleft
 

itsgrowinglikeaweed

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Yes, some concern would be appropriate. More info is required to diagnose....and check the bottoms of the leaves for a (gulp) bug problem.
 

j h

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would go thru with two wet sponges and gently wash your leaves top and bottom two sponges so you can wash top and bottom of leaf at the same time. try and remove any bugs possible
 

LastOneLeft

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Yes, some concern would be appropriate. More info is required to diagnose....and check the bottoms of the leaves for a (gulp) bug problem.
Sorry, the temp is at 29 degrees celcuis (due to the hot ass weather) with humidity at 55%. I checked for mites and bugs but nothing. Only a few of my girls are affected, hopefully it doesnt get any worse...

got that too. I am stumped. I have settled on ph. I am attemmpting to fix, will let yu know. :)
keep in touch...because I think that might be my situation too. I leave my water to evaporate over a few nights and then use it. Maybe it has something to do with that?

would go thru with two wet sponges and gently wash your leaves top and bottom two sponges so you can wash top and bottom of leaf at the same time. try and remove any bugs possible
I dont see any bugs ...just burns marks on them
 

flfarmer2

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Kinda looks by the light color of the leaf and the high ridges on the leaf. It my be a nute defincey, I would first flush with ClearX or if you don't have, flush with distilled water. Then make sure you start with a fresh mix of nutes balanced at the correct PH between 5.5 - 6.2 or close. I personally am using the Lucas Formula (posted below) and can say it is the best balanced nute formula I have ever used.
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General Hydroponics Flora Series Feeding Strategy - Lucas Formula

G-M-B (Grow-Micro-Bloom)
0-5-10 - For Vegetative cycle (18/6)
0-8-16 - For Flowering cycle (12/12)

The numbers above indicate the number of milliliters (ml) of Flora Grow, Micro or Bloom formulas that I use in one gallon (US Liquid) of nutrients.

You will notice I dont use any of the Flora “Grow” formula, do not need to, the Flora "Micro" provides plenty of Nitrogen.

There are two ways to work with this formula:

1. Top off the reservoir daily using a pH corrected water solution as required to maintain full reservoir level. After adding back an amount of water equal to the amount of your reservoir capacity you should change the reservoir and put in fresh solution.

2. Top off the reservoir daily using a pH corrected 100% strength nutrient solution as required to maintain full reservoir level. Continue to use this nutrient solution without dumping the tank unless the PPM rises above acceptable levels.

Between vegetative and flowering cycles you should dump your nutrients, then flush (possibly with Clearex) to remove salt buildups, then change to the other feeding program. Always shake your GH nutrient bottles before using them!

For young plants, just transplanted into the hydro setup, give them 50% strength nutrient mix to prevent overfeeding them while their young. Gradually bring up the mix to full strength as they grow over the next few weeks or so.

The lucas formula is normally intended for use with RO or near 0 PPM water.

NOTE: The Lucas formula eliminates the need for Epsom salts to correct (Magnesium) Mg deficiencies in most normal feeding programs recommended by manufacturers. Cannabis needs a lot of Magnesium to thrive.

The Flora Micro is providing the Nitrogen and the Magnesium in the proper balance, thus there is no need for the Grow formula and little or no room under the maximum acceptable ppm limit of 1600 @ 0.7 conversion.

Calculated EC/TDS levels:

EC microsiemen:
0-4-8: 946 µS
0-5-10: 1184 µS
0-8-16: 1894 µS

TDS @ 0.5 conversion:
0-4-8 = 473 ppm
0-5-10 = 592 ppm
0-8-16 = 947 ppm

TDS @ 0.7 conversion:
0-4-8 = 663 ppm
0-5-10 = 829 ppm
0-8-16 = 1326 ppm

Addback Calculator - (For Advanced Users)

Say you were running the 0-8-16 formula, at 0.7 conversion with a 22 gallon res. When you first fill it up, your ppm will be around 1330.

Now you have been growing for a week, and some of the water has been taken up by the plants, some has evaporated, and now your res is at 947 ppm. You need to get your ppm from 947 to 1330. Here is the equation:

((target - current) / target) * 8 ml per gallon * res gallons = Flora Micro (ml) double this figure to get Flora Bloom (ml)

Example:

((1330 - 947) / 1330) * 8 * 22
(383 / 1330) * 8 * 22
0.3 * 8 * 22 = 53 ml Flora Micro

53 ml Flora Micro, double that and you get 106 ml Flora Bloom. So 53 ml Flora Micro and 106 ml Flora Bloom to add back to your 22 gallon res to get you from 947 to 1330.

Using Hard Water GH Micro

I had been experimenting with using the Hard water Micro as a substitute for the normal Flora Micro, this to account for my hard 350 PPM water and the lack of a large enough RO filter at the time. It has worked well for me. I just kept my reservoir below 1150 PPM @ .5 conversion and its all good.

One tip - do not pH down this stuff, the hard water micro will drop pH gradually over the next 24 hours, for example I mix up a batch, it is at like 6.2, the next day, its at 5.6-5.8 after running in the system for a while. If I pH downed that to 5.7 before putting it in the system, it ended up as low as 4.8-5.2 by the next day.

My conclusion, the hard water micro was buffering the alkaline crud in my water, it just doesnot do it ASAP fast like the phosphoric acid.

Farmer
 

LastOneLeft

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I do think the high heat and ph levels is affecting my girls. Time to mess around with ph solutions and try to lower temperature as much as possible (which is difficult for me).

That page with the diagnostic check is very handy indeed!

Thank you very much for that. At least now I know how its properly done! Thanks farmer
 
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