Help Diagnose My Girls....

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LastOneLeft

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Hi fellow RUI members,

Well the title says for it self. I have a few problems I found out yesterday while just crusing around the girls. Each picture has their own story so please follow along and help my girls as they are in neeed of it.

This girl right here was dropped at 3 ft hight before transfering her. She hasnt mad any progession yet. The leaves are clearly small and drying up. Is there anyway to fix her?



As for my Hempstar, They havent been doin good either since they came into the tent. She has yellow tips and starting to wilt at the top.


This is my second Hempstar which is doing even worse. All of the top has wilted and tips all yellowing. I dont know what to do.


On the little on here, is seems like she has mould or something. Im not sure if it is mould but I'm pretty sure its not normal. Never seen this before.


I feed them with nutrients yertday because they really pale/light green (either ph lockup or nutrients deficiency). Only a few were a little moist so I watered them less then others that really needed it and was completely dry. The temp is 28c with 55% humitidy with the light at 18 inches. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thank you

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Mystik said:
that first pic looks like a zinc issue, it's almost identical looking to the picture in the guide actually
https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/157345-have-plant-problem-check-here.html

...actually just look over that post it pretty much sums it all up...
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Thanks for the information. I would like for someone to answer so I can be reassured and be able to sleep at night.

itsgrowinglikeaweed said:
Ph problems all day and twice on Sunday! I'd say total lockout. What's your PH? How are you testing it?
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I also think its ph lockout. I use hardwater and let it sit over night. But this batch was left for a few days (4days about) and changed the ph level and I used it (6.5-7.0):wall:. When it comes out of my tap and sits over night it is at 6.0-6.5 ph level.


My main conern is on the Hempstar. The one with the top all droppy looking. Is that over watering, because I barely water her (better to under then over water) and she look like she not going to make it. *knock on wood*
 
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I forgot to mention my method of testing my ph.
I use that drop tester thingy, which isnt the best method but it works (not that effective)
I cant go out and buy a digital tester right as of now because of finacial difficulties
 
MrJoshC

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Sometimes under watering has the same look as over watering. But it seems like you know what you're doing when it comes to that. I agree it looks like some kind of lock out. I would flush thoroughly with ph'ed water, add half strength nutes, and make sure you love em... a lot
 
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The one girl I dropped at three feet height isnt doing well at all. Having her in my tent makes me sad. Looking around and see others progress and this one stunt makes me want to throw her out, but a true soldier never leaves anyone behind lol. So I guess its a waiting for for the both of us.



So here is my Hempstar and is not looking what so ever!!! She is wilting even more and I AM VERY CONCERN. How should I correct this problem or should I just wait?

 
Saint0241

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yeah man,,id flush ur dirt..and then double check ur ph..ph if 2 acidic srry if i spelled that wrong cause spots or cause leaves to droop and dry..
hope this helps u a bit
 
sk3tch3

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i would use bottle water RO, and flush them for a couple days with ph around 6.2 - 6.7 they should start to turn around. make sure not to over water though as it looks like your soul will retain moisture pretty well. what kinf or soil is it? what nutes are you using etc etc
 
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MEANGREEN69 said:
what are u feeding them? and how much? and are u checking the ph after u add nutes to the water?
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I am currently using Supernatural brand (http://www.sulphurplasma.com/terraponic/grow-terra.htm). As of right now they are using 2/3 of the full strength requirements. I checked my ph level before I feed them (6.5-7.0) from overnight sitting. My nutrients is buffered so it doesnt fluctuate my ph level when I add the nutirents.

Saint0241 said:
yeah man,,id flush ur dirt..and then double check ur ph..ph if 2 acidic srry if i spelled that wrong cause spots or cause leaves to droop and dry..
hope this helps u a bit
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Yeah ph level wasnt right on I think. Flushing them even when they are a little damn shouldnt harm them rite?

sk3tch3 said:
i would use bottle water RO, and flush them for a couple days with ph around 6.2 - 6.7 they should start to turn around. make sure not to over water though as it looks like your soul will retain moisture pretty well. what kinf or soil is it? what nutes are you using etc etc
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Yeah eh, I think my soil does hold a lot of moisture because it takes four days to dry depending on the temperature.


So I am going to decide that flushing them girls due to the symptoms. Do I flush them three times the container size? if so it would look liek this ... 27girls x 2gallons x 3timetheammount = 162 gallons?!?!?! is this right? becasue that a lot water. DAMN!
 
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If you have Different strains of plants at different stages of growth and you flush them ALL, or just treat them ALL the same in general, some of them will NEVER be happy. You're going to have a certain amount of attrition, when you have different plants growing. Just something to think about. Also, just having your tap water sit out overnight is NOT good enough to completely evap the chlorine. It takes longer than that. An air stone in the water will expedite this process as well as add valuable oxygen to the water. I let mytap water bubble for 3 days in 5 gallon jug. i give this water to all my house plants. Why three days? well... for the 1st two days my cat won't drink it. After 3 he does. go figure. Good luck.
 
wyteboi

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Thats nute lock bigtime! and it takes awhile to recover from that....... they probably feel a lil worse then they look..... IF your ph is between 6 and under 7 then they would not look like that. So maybe think about some new test strips from pet shop (if your broke like me!) i am willing to bet the ph in that dirt is well above 8.0 so listen to most on here and use STRAIT WATER with a ph of 6.2 to 6.8 (NO nutes until problem is fixed) I would not "flush" them just yet unless the soil is bone dry. You say it takes about 4 days to dry up , well you DO NOT want it to take no longer then that.......so if you dont think they will dry in 3 or 4 days then do not "flush" ...just use water instead of food.........mine look excactly like yours right now, except mama bear and she is almost white from not eating (nute lock)
AND remember this: "i have never heard of or seen anybody FIX any plant problems with nutes" ............just like co2 , the plants will not use it unless the enviroment is just right ! and dont ever think your plants will die if you dont "add nutes" thats just not true at all. hope that helps!
 
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itsgrowinglikeaweed said:
If you have Different strains of plants at different stages of growth and you flush them ALL, or just treat them ALL the same in general, some of them will NEVER be happy. You're going to have a certain amount of attrition, when you have different plants growing. Just something to think about. Also, just having your tap water sit out overnight is NOT good enough to completely evap the chlorine. It takes longer than that. An air stone in the water will expedite this process as well as add valuable oxygen to the water. I let mytap water bubble for 3 days in 5 gallon jug. i give this water to all my house plants. Why three days? well... for the 1st two days my cat won't drink it. After 3 he does. go figure. Good luck.
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Nah all my girls are the same age but at different growth size. They we all clones at the begining and now look at them. Weird.

wyteboi said:
Thats nute lock bigtime! and it takes awhile to recover from that....... they probably feel a lil worse then they look..... IF your ph is between 6 and under 7 then they would not look like that. So maybe think about some new test strips from pet shop (if your broke like me!) i am willing to bet the ph in that dirt is well above 8.0 so listen to most on here and use STRAIT WATER with a ph of 6.2 to 6.8 (NO nutes until problem is fixed) I would not "flush" them just yet unless the soil is bone dry. You say it takes about 4 days to dry up , well you DO NOT want it to take no longer then that.......so if you dont think they will dry in 3 or 4 days then do not "flush" ...just use water instead of food.........mine look excactly like yours right now, except mama bear and she is almost white from not eating (nute lock)
AND remember this: "i have never heard of or seen anybody FIX any plant problems with nutes" ............just like co2 , the plants will not use it unless the enviroment is just right ! and dont ever think your plants will die if you dont "add nutes" thats just not true at all. hope that helps!
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So letting hard water sit alone overnight isnt good enough? So airstone is the way to go eh? I think i might get an airstone and pump since thats seems like a good idea to add oxygen. So you leave it bubbling for three days and thats it?
Yea I was planning on getting a ph tester since its a pretty important tool for us. But after all this spending on everything Im out of flow for now so thats whats slowing me down as of now. Yup water only all the way, but I already flushed them (all seems very dry except for like 6 of them) So 4 days to dry up is wayyyyy too long eh? How do I fix this problem or fasten up the drying time?
Oh yeah, to fix your problem it must be only water at the correct ph level.

itsgrowinglikeaweed said:
This PH tester (i use)is only 20 beans. http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-Milwaukee-pH600-pH-Tester-Meter-Pocket-Pen-600_W0QQitemZ380124537302QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item58813021d6&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:1205|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
Completely affordable and 100% nessessary.
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WOW thats cheap...not cheap but priced well Thanks alot itsgrowinglikeaweed I appreciate it.
 
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Here is my next concern after this. At this rate, would I be able to flower them (12 inches most of them) and if I took some cuttings too. Would it stunt her? Or I just keep a two as mothers and flower the rest? Either way Im happy but I would like to hear someones opinion. Here are some pitcure I took today while checking on them. Please leave a comment as I would like to here what you have to say. Negative and positive comments are welcomed.

Here is the one girl I dropped at 3 ft which looks like shes in pain. Would it be okay if I continued on and flowered her?



Here are my two Hempstar, the one on the right is curling really bad on top and mid section while the other one seems to be doing okay. Please help me with this problem.



Here are acouple shot the girls that arent doing so great in this batch.




Here are some of the girls that just flourish like crazy for some reason.




Can someone please tell mw what the hell is going on in the top left hand corner of the grow bag. There is a sprout that happen from last night. I want to pull it out for some reason!


I check the bottom of the big girls and it seems like they have strong root systems and I'm worried it will be root bound evenutally.


Here they are all in their home.


OK I think I should inform this to yuo guy. While I was flushing them and working I realized that some of the containers hold WAY more moisture then others!!!! The little girls hold a ton of water while the big one was drench and still light after drainage. Something is wrong here. Not enough perlite in some batches? I just want to correct this problem because watering will be more calulated.

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Saint0241

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dude my bad didnt see ur last post..yeah man if its not draining properly then ur perlite ratio if off...or u need more drainage holes..either one will help u out
 
apasunee

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wow, that sucks,, I had this same problem and never recovered... Had to start new.... Good luck,, hope you can save yours.....
 
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Saint0241 said:
dude my bad didnt see ur last post..yeah man if its not draining properly then ur perlite ratio if off...or u need more drainage holes..either one will help u out
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It must be the perlite ratio because there are enough drainage holes in the grow bag themselves. I think poking holes wouldnt solve my problem. The problem is my soil holds too much moisture and wont dry. I cant add perlite to it and mix it up as that will cause the root to be damage. what will I do?!?!?!?!?

apasunee said:
wow, that sucks,, I had this same problem and never recovered... Had to start new.... Good luck,, hope you can save yours.....
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me too ....me too...
 
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