DaGambler's 4k HPS 99 Plant Hempy Grow

DaGambler

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I wanted to grow some trees like MBlaze does...
thanks 4 the update shkrmn. your 4 oz girls are just spoiled with love, that's all :D

i love seeing mary jane outdoors in its full splendor... i just think that indoor growing has some limitations. i've seen plants get 5' tall and only have decent growth on the top 3' from the limit of the lights penetration. meaning that the other two feet was just wasted veg time. now if you have vertical sources of light... etc. that might not happen. but i think you'd have to actually work out a gardens GPkWh efficiency to get an idea of what you might be missing out on by vegging too long ... or not vegging long enough. Or having more or less plants under a given amount of light. For me, at least, i'm interested in maximum yield ... with MINIMAL work :D on the backdrop of turn-around-time.
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shnkrmn

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think I started growing big plants because I had a hard time making up my mind to flip to bloom. I'll calculate my efficiency for this cycle even though it won't be stellar. Next go round should fill a large trash sack:leaf::leaf::leaf:. I just updated my grow journal. Check it out, man.

The thing that gets me going is the NO VEG part...

I mean I keep moms vegging... but that is just a 400w T-5...

I wanted to grow some trees like MBlaze does...

But that would mean 5 to 6 months without a harvest...

I just cannot justify vegging, at all...

Not when I get to chop an oz a day... without it...

That is my side of the coin... :eyesmoke:
 

DaGambler

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Nice operation man. Very nice. And very clean. And tons of great advice. Thanks for keeping it going.
thanks man. i try to resist giving advice... but am not always successful :D but i know that unsolicited advice can be pretty damn annoying. so i apologize for popping into other people's threads and journals and picking things apart. its just my nature :D i'm an opinion with an arsehole. or is that arsehole with an opinion ?!
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erkelsgoo420

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Feel free to spread ur asshole opinions all over my journal lol its always welcome... Anyhow I'm definetly scribed to this one. U got balls for sure.. How's the powerbill now? Lol gl peace and smoke
 

shnkrmn

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thanks man. i try to resist giving advice... but am not always successful :D but i know that unsolicited advice can be pretty damn annoying. so i apologize for popping into other people's threads and journals and picking things apart. its just my nature :D i'm an opinion with an arsehole. or is that arsehole with an opinion ?!
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Dude, I always want your advice. You may have called me one of your 'hempy mentors' but you have a much wider and longer experience to draw from than I do and you are pretty articulate with what you share.




Plus you have huge brass balls:mrgreen:.
 

erkelsgoo420

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Jesus is that double triple? Lol I would be careful with that one or put fans in every window and have like six ac plugged in but off so if they ask questions u can point to the acs and slam the door haha . U guys got balls I'm trippin over 4 plants and a 250w that cost maybe 10 bucks a month in veg and I'm medical... Idk how u sleep lol
 

DaGambler

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DAY 23:

Anything new going on bro? Whats up with that new fan and 6th light?
just for you i took the day off work to get this crap done... good lord it was alotta work. envision me sliding a 7' ladder in and out of the canopy of chains...



Red circles were the existing 6" 400+ cfm exhausts ... each clearing two 1k lights. Blue circle is the new 12" 1000+ cfm room exhaust... A.C. will no longer be used. The Yellow circle is the ozone generator placed at the highest point (about 13' at room peak).



And so i have added a 6th light. Where there was one in the center ... there are now 2 spaced apart in the center of the room. I have no more electricity to spare. I can upgrade no further. And i wouldn't even if i could ... 'cuz my electrical consumption is already higher than i would like.



Back up to 240 clones ... thought a couple of the replacements wouldn't make it ... but they did. Unfortunately the mommies in the flower room aren't doing as well. I am having pH problems. Some of them are doing "The Claw". I'm working on it.
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erkelsgoo420

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I envy that setup.. That sucks about the mothers but I'm sure they'll pull through and if they don't u got pleany of new ones to pick from.. Keep at it lookin good
 

Mammath

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DAY 23:



just for you i took the day off work to get this crap done... good lord it was alotta work. envision me sliding a 7' ladder in and out of the canopy of chains...



Red circles were the existing 6" 400+ cfm exhausts ... each clearing two 1k lights. Blue circle is the new 12" 1000+ cfm room exhaust... A.C. will no longer be used. The Yellow circle is the ozone generator placed at the highest point (about 13' at room peak).



And so i have added a 6th light. Where there was one in the center ... there are now 2 spaced apart in the center of the room. I have no more electricity to spare. I can upgrade no further. And i wouldn't even if i could ... 'cuz my electrical consumption is already higher than i would like.



Back up to 240 clones ... thought a couple of the replacements wouldn't make it ... but they did. Unfortunately the mommies in the flower room aren't doing as well. I am having pH problems. Some of them are doing "The Claw". I'm working on it.
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Pic bump.

Damn!

If we ever have to move to Mars, you won't have to change a thing Gambler :lol:

Hell of a set up.
 

Smokiethebear

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DAY 23:



just for you i took the day off work to get this crap done... good lord it was alotta work. envision me sliding a 7' ladder in and out of the canopy of chains...



Red circles were the existing 6" 400+ cfm exhausts ... each clearing two 1k lights. Blue circle is the new 12" 1000+ cfm room exhaust... A.C. will no longer be used. The Yellow circle is the ozone generator placed at the highest point (about 13' at room peak).



And so i have added a 6th light. Where there was one in the center ... there are now 2 spaced apart in the center of the room. I have no more electricity to spare. I can upgrade no further. And i wouldn't even if i could ... 'cuz my electrical consumption is already higher than i would like.



Back up to 240 clones ... thought a couple of the replacements wouldn't make it ... but they did. Unfortunately the mommies in the flower room aren't doing as well. I am having pH problems. Some of them are doing "The Claw". I'm working on it.
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Lookin good yo....whats your temps running since you axed the ol AC? has that big ass fan added any noise? what are you gonna do with all them clones you gonna double up again?
 

Old Frog

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The new 1ks in the center of the room are going to be vented, or you're leaving it be for now DaG? What kind of heat do they alone produce in the room? Negligible amounts?

How's that 12" 1000cfm pull with all the lights attached? Are the four 1ks spidered out with the insulated ducting forming a kind of X pattern into the the one central 12" duct, or...? Where's all that heat going now? Out the rooftop I assume?

What's the ozone running at? On a timer, and how many times/day/whatever? Have you already got some CO2 in the room that I don't know about?

Looks like that room's approaching sun-quality light. Launch that sucker into the stratosphere in case we need a spare, will ya? ;)
 

DaGambler

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Lookin good yo....whats your temps running since you axed the ol AC?
It was nice and warm today ... about 98 degrees outside. The flower room peaked at 91.7 degrees before shutting down at 1:45 in the afternoon. That's good enuf for me. i saw temps as high as 94 even with the 13k btu a.c. running. The highest humidity was at around 73... which kinda sux but i have lots of air flow... and use a ozone generator and a sulphur vaporiser. It generally runs 60 or less.

"has that big ass fan added any noise?"

the fan was 'disconcerting' at first :D like a jet engine... if you placed your hand a bit too close to the intake it'll suck ur ass in. loud. thankfully i'm using insulated ducting so you can't hear it outside. and i added a 12" by 24" floor vent with an air filter for the intake in the flower room. so that i can close the door even when the lights are running. the fan runs constantly. the air below the house is deffinitely cooler than the air outside... but i've also got 6 or 7 ballasts sitting down there. All of the intakes draw from below the house.

"what are you gonna do with all them clones you gonna double up again?"

yes, i do believe that i shall be Doubling Down :bigjoint:

just ordered some new perlite today. i'd like to avoid some of these pH issues next time.
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DaGambler

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The new 1ks in the center of the room are going to be vented, or you're leaving it be for now DaG? What kind of heat do they alone produce in the room? Negligible amounts?
I have two 400+ cfm fans ... each clearing two lamps... through 6" insulated ducting by drawing air from beneath the house via 6" floorvents and pushing it out via a 6" insulated box flange to just under the overhang. The two lamps in the center of the room are in the cheapest reflectors ever created by man and are unvented. That's okay. The 1000+ cfm fan is capable of pulling their heat as well as the excess heat from the cooltubes and the heat radiating up off of the floor from the 6 or 7 ballasts running down there.

"What's the ozone running at? On a timer, and how many times/day/whatever? Have you already got some CO2 in the room that I don't know about?"

Its still running at the highest i had it when i was deep into flowering. It's a UvonAir3000 ... running at:

15 min. ON 45 min. OFF
15 min. ON 45 min. OFF
15 min. ON 45 min. OFF
30 min. ON 45 min. OFF (repeat)

but just 15 minutes out of every hour would do wonders.

No CO2 ... nor plans for any. I've got bookoo air flow at this point. It's as good as mother nature on that front at least.

"Looks like that room's approaching sun-quality light. Launch that sucker into the stratosphere in case we need a spare, will ya? ;)"

No doubt. Right now we got - all of our eggs - in one basket. If we were halfway intelligent we'd be making colonization priority one. bongsmilie
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Smokiethebear

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New perlite huhh? I guess that means you wont be reusing it again....I kinda hate to hear that I was wanting to try hempys and was hoping I could reuse it.... that was the main reason for changing from soil I hate having to find a place to dump the shit all the time
 

DaGambler

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New perlite huhh? I guess that means you wont be reusing it again....I kinda hate to hear that I was wanting to try hempys and was hoping I could reuse it.... that was the main reason for changing from soil I hate having to find a place to dump the shit all the time
i'll still plan on using the new stuff at least twice as well. and at least it doesn't weigh a ton. i don't know how well my floor would even support actual dirt -- while perlite is almost weightless. maybe i'll blow the used stuff into the attic and use it as insulation :bigjoint:
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