whats wrong with my OG KUSH ?

ShoAL paTroL

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ok so these guys are in a flood/drain table.the nutes are pro bloom,liquid karma,and beastie bloom.ph is 6.3 and my ppm was 1345.running a 600w qauntum with vented hood.temp is 78 with about 60%humidity.


so they looked great yesterday but when i went in today they looked like shit and seme to me to be going down hill.i not sure what iam looking at here on some of these leaves.and the curling really itsnt right.also in a couple pics u can see the hairs are turning brown already.the last run i did with this strain the same thing happened where the hairs started turnin brown at like 4-5 weeks and from there on out it did a veg/bloom thing, after 12weeks i mulched it.i've grown this strain many times before and have had no issues till now.also a side note,these cuts didnt get any veg time.when i say 4 weeks i mean from the day i moved them from the dome.peaple said they wouldnt grow big enough before setting or it woulnt have the root and stem to support bloom growth.well the stocks are as thick as my fingers and the roots are out of the bottom of my buckets and filling the table already.iam sure if i didnt say anything about no veg time no one would have know.imo.

ok heres some pics.


can anybody tell me what they see and whats wrong
 

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Mammath

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They don't look too bad mate.
Usually that sort of clawing is associated with the first signs over nuting.
Back you PPM down to around 1100 or so.
Your leaf ridges look nice and flat so PH is probably OK but definitely on the high side.
I would still lower it to 5.8
I wouldn't recommend anything under 5.5 for PH or you may start locking nutes out.

No offence Lax :peace:
 

ShoAL paTroL

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ok sweet.my ph is what i was thinking to.ill get it down and see what happens.i dropped my ppms already(upper 1100's). pump waters 4 times a day so i dont think there overwaterd and i have a mat down for the roots to grow under and in.since i put it down the roots have grown so far into it.before they would grow out about an inch then dry up,not anymore.i think iam liken that mat thing hope it doesnt turn green tho


THANKS GUYS!!....anybody know why those hairs on these early sets are turning brown already?i thought heat but its a vented/sealed hood and there not the top ones


few more pics to show size.iam trippin on how big and how fast they got to this size.i never vegged them.u can see the rest of my cuts in pic.there only a week old and have doubled in size on only 12hrs of light.
 

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dbo24242

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yeah that looks like overwatering, which happens in hydro setups. I do dwc and have a similar look that I can tell is just moisture stress, I cut most of the bottom branches off anyways since they yield poorly and will yield worse if stressed like that.

if you can put in a mh conversion bulb and drop the light a lot they are stretching quite a bit, you will have a thicker fuller canopy if you get the light closer.
 

ShoAL paTroL

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They don't look too bad mate.
Usually that sort of clawing is associated with the first signs over nuting.
Back you PPM down to around 1100 or so.
Your leaf ridges look nice and flat so PH is probably OK but definitely on the high side.
I would still lower it to 5.8
I wouldn't recommend anything under 5.5 for PH or you may start locking nutes out.

No offence Lax :peace:
ok dropped the ppm's and the ph also thanks for the help.
 

ShoAL paTroL

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yeah that looks like overwatering, which happens in hydro setups. I do dwc and have a similar look that I can tell is just moisture stress, I cut most of the bottom branches off anyways since they yield poorly and will yield worse if stressed like that.

if you can put in a mh conversion bulb and drop the light a lot they are stretching quite a bit, you will have a thicker fuller canopy if you get the light closer.
yeah i have a mh bulb dont use it much.the hood is only up that high for the pic.i put that thing as close as i can without burning.as for the overwatering,i was told flooding 4 times in 24hrs would b good.are u saying to flood only 3 times in 24?
 

Mammath

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ok dropped the ppm's and the ph also thanks for the help.
That's good ShoAL'
Concerning the water schedule that dbo and others have bought attention to that may need looking at also.
When you say 4 floods every 24hrs you mean 12 hour light cycle don't you?
Flooding every 3 hours should be fine during the light cycle.
You don't water in the dark cycle do you, have to ask?
 

ShoAL paTroL

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That's good ShoAL'
Concerning the water schedule that dbo and others have bought attention to that may need looking at also.
When you say 4 floods every 24hrs you mean 12 hour light cycle don't you?
Flooding every 3 hours should be fine during the light cycle.
You don't water in the dark cycle do you, have to ask?
ahh..ok ill change my timer so it only waters during the light cycle,i think it watered once at half way threw my dark cycle.12 hours without watering seamed along time to go without watering.iam still somewhat new to fllood/drain but do alot of research and have a pretty good idea whats going on but always need help it seams like...anyways ill fix my timer.thanks guys for the help.ill have some updated pics down the road of these og's.just got done with a run of chemdog,got some pics on my page.
 

Mammath

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ahh..ok ill change my timer so it only waters during the light cycle,i think it watered once at half way threw my dark cycle.12 hours without watering seamed along time to go without watering.iam still somewhat new to fllood/drain but do alot of research and have a pretty good idea whats going on but always need help it seams like...anyways ill fix my timer.thanks guys for the help.ill have some updated pics down the road of these og's.just got done with a run of chemdog,got some pics on my page.
If they get a flood just before the lights go out that should keep them going while they sleep.
Definitely keep us updated ;)
 
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