Fuck Fox News!!! I wanna put this j-bone out in their eyes!

CrackerJax

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I am an Independent, that leans toward Libertarian. I don't like the Democrat Party, or the Republican Party. Both parties suck!!! I am for very small government, and leave me the hell alone, and let me live my life. Stay away from my children, don't tell me what to believe, what to think, and what to eat, drink, and smoke. Let me have my guns, my religion, my money, my property, and my vehicles!! Stay the hell out of my life!!!!!
Yes, I agree, but ONE party is a heck of alot closer to your desires than the other.....
 

TheBrutalTruth

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You thought Bush, Cheney, and Rove were less tyrannical than...(insert random historical tyrant)? Are you crazy?
:: coughs ::

Do you believe that Obama is any better. Better a tyrant that engages in foreign wars than one that seeks to enslave their own citizens through legislative force and under false judicial pretenses.
 

CrackerJax

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:: coughs ::

Do you believe that Obama is any better. Better a tyrant that engages in foreign wars than one that seeks to enslave their own citizens through legislative force and under false judicial pretenses.
Bingo!! Bush was not a great president but he had the right stuff when it came to keeping us safe.

Obama is not making us safe. Not from terrorists or from himself.
 
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PadawanBater

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Bingo!! Bush was not a great president but he had the right stuff when it came to keeping us safe.

Obama is not making us safe. Not from terrorists or from himself.

That's not how it works CJ. Just because we didn't get attacked after 911 on American soil does not mean Bush kept us safe.

Look at the state of the world. Are you really going to argue the world was a much safer place on Jan 20th 2009 than it was on Jan 20th 2001?

Bush increased terrorism worldwide, which has quite the opposite affect of keeping people safe...
 

NoDrama

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The first President they elect who gives a fuck about the people will be assassinated right away. Presidents these days are elected to help the elites become more elite, they get the money for the campaign from the moneyers and they make sure these same people are paid back 10 fold in new laws that protect them.
 

Cap K

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The first President they elect who gives a fuck about the people will be assassinated right away. Presidents these days are elected to help the elites become more elite, they get the money for the campaign from the moneyers and they make sure these same people are paid back 10 fold in new laws that protect them.

They already killed the first president that gave a fuck about us JFK, but yeah your'e right they will spill anybody's blood that aint towing their illuminated line.
 

NoDrama

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They already killed the first president that gave a fuck about us JFK, but yeah your'e right they will spill anybody's blood that aint towing their illuminated line.

They sure did, they tried to assassinate President Andrew Jackson 8 times but failed everytime.
 

indianaman

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this country became a police state after the patriot act, no habeus corpus for prisoners(right to a speedy and fair trial) if they have the SUSPICION of you being a terrorist......GITMO........SO DON'T YOU DUMBFUCKS tell me we're being enslaved. illlegal phone taps, searches, siezures sounds more like hitler to me you dumb motherfuckers, i don't care if i get a ''write-up'' because you dumb douchebags literally have no fucking idea what in the hell you are spewing from your stupid, facist, ''creamskimmers''.:peace:
 

Cap K

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They sure did, they tried to assassinate President Andrew Jackson 8 times but failed everytime.

Andrew Jackson was a real president, particularly because he fought against the biggest threat to this country since it's independence. The Central bank. We could use someone like him now. I guess Ron Paul would be about as close as we could get today.
 

indianaman

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fuck that big bank... and jackson whooped the shit out of those fuckin brits in new orleans, too bad the war was over for 3 weeks.
 

CrackerJax

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He didn't keep us safe on Sept 11, 2001. The largest terrorist attack ever great job at keeping us safe George
Nonsense. Almost all intelligence before 9/11 came from the Clinton administration. You need to do a bit of research into Clinton before you post. I could spell it out for you, but that would be like doing your homework.

That's not how it works CJ. Just because we didn't get attacked after 911 on American soil does not mean Bush kept us safe.

Look at the state of the world. Are you really going to argue the world was a much safer place on Jan 20th 2009 than it was on Jan 20th 2001?

Bush increased terrorism worldwide, which has quite the opposite affect of keeping people safe...
The world? I'm satisfied with the US. Bush did not increase terrorism at all, it was already there. By going into Iraq, bush killed THREE birds with ONE stone, which in my playbook is a mighty feat.
1.) Toppled a crushing regime in Iraq, which was a destabilizing force in that region.
2.) Kept Al Queda tied up overseas so as to stop anymore domestic terrorism (very important)
3.) Gathered Al Queda into Iraq where they were soundly defeated.

That's a mighty impressive achievement by any standards.

Appeasement only works in the short term while the enemy forces gather their strength to attack en masse later. Clinton is a perfect example of this. If Clinton had acted FORCEFULLY, 9/11 might never have happened.
 

Cap K

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fuck that big bank... and jackson whooped the shit out of those fuckin brits in new orleans, too bad the war was over for 3 weeks.
Lol! I agree fuck that bank especially because it still exists and is now commonly known as The Federal Reserve Bank and yes they are directly responsible for our economic woes. Ron Paul is tryin to get a bill passed that would enable the GAO to audit the Fed. The bill is HR 1207. it aint much, but it's a start, check it out.
 

Cap K

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Nonsense. Almost all intelligence before 9/11 came from the Clinton administration. You need to do a bit of research into Clinton before you post. I could spell it out for you, but that would be like doing your homework.



The world? I'm satisfied with the US. Bush did not increase terrorism at all, it was already there. By going into Iraq, bush killed THREE birds with ONE stone, which in my playbook is a mighty feat.
1.) Toppled a crushing regime in Iraq, which was a destabilizing force in that region.
2.) Kept Al Queda tied up overseas so as to stop anymore domestic terrorism (very important)
3.) Gathered Al Queda into Iraq where they were soundly defeated.

That's a mighty impressive achievement by any standards.

Appeasement only works in the short term while the enemy forces gather their strength to attack en masse later. Clinton is a perfect example of this. If Clinton had acted FORCEFULLY, 9/11 might never have happened.

The Clinton administration, before leaving briefed the incoming Bush administration on a memo entitled " Bin Laden Detemined to Strike Inside the U.S. They totally ignored this memo and then...9/11 happend.
 

indianaman

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i don't think that memo came from clinton, the planning for 9-11 took place during clinton's reign. watching bush sit in silence after hearing about 9-11 for 10 minutes holding ''my pet goat'' priceless....:-|
 

CrackerJax

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The Clinton administration, before leaving briefed the incoming Bush administration on a memo entitled " Bin Laden Detemined to Strike Inside the U.S. They totally ignored this memo and then...9/11 happend.
Nonsense.... nothing was ignored. Clinton basically gutted the CIA and the intel was just awful. So I tell you that I am going to strike the US next year. What do you do? Put the country on lock down? This is a VERY large country with literally thousands of targets. Think you can stop the first attack? I doubt it very much. What is most important is not to be fooled twice. He wasn't......

Clinton was fooled over and over again. In many ways, Clinton pushed those ppl out of the world trade towers.
 

Cap K

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i don't think that memo came from clinton, the planning for 9-11 took place during clinton's reign. watching bush sit in silence after hearing about 9-11 for 10 minutes holding ''my pet goat'' priceless....:-|
The memo did exist and it did come from Clinton administation, not that this absolves Clinton. His administration had it's run ins with Alcaeda, and I would say that Clinton had at least one good opportunity to take him out and did not. Big mistake! Or maybe it happedned just they way they wanted it to. Oh, but the look on poor Georgie's face that morning...indeed priceless!
 

Cap K

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My bad youre right, Clinton warned Bush that Bin laden would be his biggest problem, but the memo came from the Bush administration FBI memo a month or two prior to attack.
 
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