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lurkmaster

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I grow for the budsbongsmilie... not the growth...:eyesmoke:

So although I don't even know who this guys is you are talking about, it sounds to me like he is on the right track...:lol::eyesmoke:

Emphasis on bud production... right? isn't that why we grow?
In theory its good, but to only to some extent.

I will never breed mutants purposefully into my strains, DJ has just been ignoring it and his 2 latest strains are full of mutants and fucked up shit. (Thanks oregon purple thai)

http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=70857 if you want to see more.

When I discovered that all of his old lines were dead because his original breeding father for like 6 strains died, I started looking into these newer ones and I am not going to waste my time.

These two lines are pretty much all he has left, and since it smokes good he will still put them out there, but if anyone else had these mutants it would probably be another story.



Oregon purple thai? No thanks I'll pass.
 

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GypsyBush

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that's is all so far over my head...:o

I am a bagseed grower...:lol:

Have not seen a strain yet that won't do good under good care...

Those plants look abused.. they yours?
 

Shackleford.R

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thats not abuse, thats shitty genetics. aside from hideous shape/structure, everything else looks healthy. all the more reason to believe its not abuse.
 

lurkmaster

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that's is all so far over my head...:o

I am a bagseed grower...:lol:

Have not seen a strain yet that won't do good under good care...

Those plants look abused.. they yours?
No, they are not my plants nor are they abused.

I see you didn't check the thread I linked those to, has pictures of the entire grow.

Those plants are not abused, they have been grown by one of the best using only the finest organic stuff.

Those are genetic mutations.

Not all plants from these strains exhibit these traits but most do.

The further back you go in DJ crosses the less and less these ugly mutant genes appear.

DJ has been breeding cannabis since the 1970s he has put all of his work into the 'blue' line.

When his male P1 for most of his strains somehow died, all he was left with was the mutated stuff that he started inbreeding which became more and more apparent as he kept inbreeding.
 

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purpdaddy

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What do you mean by mutant..Lurk?
I havnt really got too far in genetics yet but growin em..like the disfigured foliage and shit?
 

bonghits4all

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your info is right lurkmaster but those mutant genes are a inherent trait to the p1 generation..... you will find them in dj's work all of it... the blue line still lives and is used as parent stock for many of todays hybreds........ there is nothing; aside from strange leaf formation and weird growth pattern. even though if you diaL her in you can get her to grow out of a mutation....that is bad about it.. in fact its top of the line for "head stash " weed....if you dont want those genetics i will trade you or buy them from you....

 

bonghits4all

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by the way dude that is a dj mutation w/o question./ but it was not cared for i see nutrient deffency and mite marks on those leaves./
 

lurkmaster

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Didn't, haven't and will never grow these strains because their production has been discontinued.

Keep in mind, these strains exhibit mainly SATIVA traits in respect to the high they produce, very up, clear and motivational.

Here is my favorite DJ strain, F-13 (all the same strain, diff growers)



Here is an F-13 mutant from same grow as the above plant.



And again, here is another person experiencing the same mutated leaves from a DJ strain.


Its the genetics.


Don't get me wrong its probably some of the finest herb on the planet, but its one of those freak things.. like conjoined twins.. I would prefer to stay away from natures abnormalities.
 

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DeweyKox

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Dam, I wish I had a fucked up one like yours Lurk. I would have loved the challenge to grow it out of its funk! Stop putting ur spunck in ur organic mix. Dont you know it caused this? Plants can't handle human sperm. It just dont like it, u need to find a better protein source for bulding up mass like the "ORGANIC " stuff, and use something that really works and will grow u some bud. I know this, not from my experience, but Bugs has triend and research this, it does not like ur spunk!

OK, on with the show, brb...........
 

SpruceZeus

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Didn't, haven't and will never grow these strains because their production has been discontinued.

Keep in mind, these strains exhibit mainly SATIVA traits in respect to the high they produce, very up, clear and motivational.

Here is my favorite DJ strain, F-13 (all the same strain, diff growers)



Here is an F-13 mutant from same grow as the above plant.



And again, here is another person experiencing the same mutated leaves from a DJ strain.


Its the genetics.


Don't get me wrong its probably some of the finest herb on the planet, but its one of those freak things.. like conjoined twins.. I would prefer to stay away from natures abnormalities.
With all due respect. And believe me, this isn't a witch hunt. I'm just calling it as I see it.

How is it you're able to form an opinion on anything grow related?

Generally, people who have never grown pot (that is to say, from seed/clone to dried, cured bud.) keep their gobs shut until they've actually experienced the full life cycle of marijuana. Or at very least, spend time asking questions rather than offering advice.

I mean, we're all impressed by your ability to copy and paste, and also your para-phrasing of those who have come before you. Sadly I'd be more impressed if you had grown those sick bastards (which, by the way, seem to be exhibiting signs of PH imbalance. Maybe that strain prefers a lower/higher PH than most? or y'know, just blame the breeder.) than I am with your reguritation of someone elses opinion.

Honestly, are you fucking serious?
You speak as though you have a ton of experience, talking about your favorite strains. But i'm confused, how do you know its your favorite strain?
because someone told you its good?
because you picked a pretty picture from high times?
or is this one of the strains you've tried (and failed) to grow?

Well I've got some brutally honest news for you.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!
While some of the points you've focused on do have some merit to them, you are so out of your element that I would find it impossible to listen to anything you say with a degree of seriousness.

PLEASE!! I'm not trying to hurt you, i'm trying to help you. Trying to prevent you from looking foolish.

If you can't do us the courtesy of keeping it in your pants, at very least put some sort of qualifier in your sig stating you've never finished a grow. I feel that you're being dishonest with the people you're "mentoring" by implying that you are experienced in marijuana horticulture.
 

SpruceZeus

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im sorry dude i didnt mean offence........ i often bite ..without realising till after.... ill find you something on rene
im not anywhere near cali either but im lucky to have some kind friends.....

here ya go this was hard to dig up enjoy...
Ahhhhh René, Where to truly begin with such a strain. Here in Vancouver British Columbia, is where I was to first come across this strain. A good friend at the time was growing large quantities of it, and was generous enough to give me his trim. The hash that was extracted from this trim was far superior to anything that was filling my bowl. We were all of course, just learning about the wonders of water extracted hashish, i.e. iceolator, bubblehash,etc. So the timing was perfect. The strain it was said, came from Montreal, and was named after the gentlemen who either bred, or acquired it. The genetics were said to be a Himalayan sativa crossed with an extremely pungent Skunk #1 male. Now for me, I cannot guarantee that lineage at all, as it was a story. What I can say about René, is that it holds that magical property I like to call THE FUNK. I've seen it in the Dank Ass Bitch(aka DAB), as well in the Cheese(that's all the rage in the UK right now), and the Sour Diesel. I'm not saying these strains tasted alike at all, but it had this funk within its profile. To me, this makes a strain extra special. The melt factor on the René was, from the first day, jaw opening. Most of the people I was turning onto this René hash had never seen this type of quality. When posted on sites like Overgrow and Cannabis World, people believed it was a hoax. My excitement to be writing this is overwhelming, as I have smoked nothing but René bubblehash for over two years. This was the first two years I was in business with my bubblebag company , and those pictures of René bubblehash were integral in the timing of this all taking off. It has been almost five years now since we began this long strange trip, and I am very happy to be announcing here at Legends that the good old boys have acquired the original René, which is really what I am here to authenticate. As I am certain in the next few years you will be seeing a lot of Rene cross's as well as perhaps a pure René, coming out in seed form. However , if it is not from Legends Seeds one should, in the least proceed with caution. The first strains the boys are releasing with René genes involved, are some wonderful cross's with DJ Shorts Blueberry male( the one that was used for his latest line). I Look forward to bubbling up some of the material from these seeds in the near future, and I'm certain I will be giving a full melt clear dome certification on top of the authenticity of the René genes that the good people at Legends Seeds have chosen to use. Give thanks to those that do this good work, in order to put the rest of you in a position where you can simply order. Rene is without a doubt one of my favourite ganja strains, and definitely my all time favourite hash making strain. Full melt, oh yeah all the way! !
- Bubble Man

Indoor-9 weeks
No worries dude, I have thick skin and aren't offended easily.
Thanks for the strain info. +rep if it lets me.
 

tom__420

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With all due respect. And believe me, this isn't a witch hunt. I'm just calling it as I see it.

How is it you're able to form an opinion on anything grow related?

Generally, people who have never grown pot (that is to say, from seed/clone to dried, cured bud.) keep their gobs shut until they've actually experienced the full life cycle of marijuana. Or at very least, spend time asking questions rather than offering advice.

I mean, we're all impressed by your ability to copy and paste, and also your para-phrasing of those who have come before you. Sadly I'd be more impressed if you had grown those sick bastards (which, by the way, seem to be exhibiting signs of PH imbalance. Maybe that strain prefers a lower/higher PH than most? or y'know, just blame the breeder.) than I am with your reguritation of someone elses opinion.

Honestly, are you fucking serious?
You speak as though you have a ton of experience, talking about your favorite strains. But i'm confused, how do you know its your favorite strain?
because someone told you its good?
because you picked a pretty picture from high times?
or is this one of the strains you've tried (and failed) to grow?

Well I've got some brutally honest news for you.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!
While some of the points you've focused on do have some merit to them, you are so out of your element that I would find it impossible to listen to anything you say with a degree of seriousness.

PLEASE!! I'm not trying to hurt you, i'm trying to help you. Trying to prevent you from looking foolish.

If you can't do us the courtesy of keeping it in your pants, at very least put some sort of qualifier in your sig stating you've never finished a grow. I feel that you're being dishonest with the people you're "mentoring" by implying that you are experienced in marijuana horticulture.
I couldn't have said it better my friend, plus rep
 

Shackleford.R

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Dam, I wish I had a fucked up one like yours Lurk. I would have loved the challenge to grow it out of its funk! Stop putting ur spunck in ur organic mix. Dont you know it caused this? Plants can't handle human sperm. It just dont like it, u need to find a better protein source for bulding up mass like the "ORGANIC " stuff, and use something that really works and will grow u some bud. I know this, not from my experience, but Bugs has triend and research this, it does not like ur spunk!

OK, on with the show, brb...........
HAHAHA!! ROFLMAO!!! that's some of the funniest shit i've seen on this thread...

and by the way... "Not ONCE did you pay for weed... NOT ONCE!!"
 

DEVIOUZ0NE

Active Member
that's is all so far over my head...:o

I am a bagseed grower...:lol:

Have not seen a strain yet that won't do good under good care...

Those plants look abused.. they yours?
hey bro i caught up on this journal, hands down amazing. we need more growers like us in society.. good care always.

anyways if you have some time i threw up a thread in the harvest section (sshxww 9wks) check it out i need some bold opinions.

-Dev1
 
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