250w HPS Club And Help Guide

[zechbro]

hey guys my 2 girls in scrog are just about ready to be put under the 250 for flowering.... i was wanting some input though... im using that green square plastic mesh that you get from the hardware store, each square is 2inches by 2 inches, so ive got a 4x6 squares per plant... reckon i could have a cola per hole in the mesh? or wil that be to crammed? should i go for every other square to give them some room? 12 tips per plant or 24?

 

[zechbro]

also how big should i let the tips get b4 flowering? will they all increase to the same height at the start of flowering so i can maintain an even canopy?

 

[Grazzmon]

But Doob! If it didn't smell bad it wasn't mold! No one ever smokes mold more than once! LOL!

It did smell good, but the gray fibrous look of it when I spread the bud open kinda worried me.. I used it for QWISO though with a good bit of the trimmings.

Now I am thinking of using some of the hash to make some butter for cooking but in 3 hours of searching the net I haven't found a thread with a ratio of qwiso to butter.. Anyone have an answer to that?

G

 

[MostlyCrazy]

First, glad it did not go to waste. That would make me sad! LOL! Did cannabutter a few times myself in a crock pot. I used an oz of trim/leaf to 1lb of butter and about 1/2 cup water. Kind of depends on the quality of the trim. If it's good shit then maybe less. I was using bagseed when I did it and was just messy around trying to learn how to do stuff. I used one of those $10 little crockpots. Melt butter on low until it's liquid, add 1/2 cup water, stir, Grid the trim or whatever until it's like flour ( I used a coffe grinder - love my toys). That way more of the surface is exposed to the butter. I cooked mine on high for the first couple of hours and then turned it to low for about the next 8-10 ( had to sleep sometime). Stirred it when I got up It Really, Really Reeks! Total cook time was about 14 hours. May not need that much. More probably wouldn't hurt. Let it cool a bit. When it's ok to handle (no need to get burned), pour it through a metal coffee filter into a bid party cup ( big gulp or better). Those metal coffee filter seem to fit perfectly and let the butter drip into the cup. Let it drip a while ( the longer the better) and press ever so lightly on the now spent trim to get the rest of the butter. Here's where you have to be careful not to press too hard on the glob in the metal coffee filter. If the butter drips out it has less vegetable matter in it and it just taste like butter when used. If you press too hard, some of the leaf material is forced out along with the last bit of butter. Still not bad but the butter is green and you can taste of bit of the spent trim. Not bad just funny tasting to me. You can tell the difference between loaded and unloaded at least. Put the cup in the freezer for at least an hour or until it solidifies. The butter will be seperated on top of the water. Pull it from the freezer and set it in a little luke warm/hot water for about 15 sec to loosen it a bit. In the sink turn the cup upside down. The butter will slide out with a little coaxing (slide a knife down the side). The water will come rushing out and you will be left with a large yellow hockey puck. If there is any slime on the part of the puck where the butter met the water then cut/wipe that off. It's bitter as hell. Take your newly minted yellow hockey puck and cut into 4 pieces and use in reciepes as you would a stick of butter.

 

[Grazzmon]

First, glad it did not go to waste. That would make me sad! LOL! Did cannabutter a few times myself in a crock pot. I used an oz of trim/leaf to 1lb of butter and about 1/2 cup water. Kind of depends on the quality of the trim. If it's good shit then maybe less. I was using bagseed when I did it and was just messy around trying to learn how to do stuff. I used one of those $10 little crockpots. Melt butter on low until it's liquid, add 1/2 cup water, stir, Grid the trim or whatever until it's like flour ( I used a coffe grinder - love my toys). That way more of the surface is exposed to the butter. I cooked mine on high for the first couple of hours and then turned it to low for about the next 8-10 ( had to sleep sometime). Stirred it when I got up It Really, Really Reeks! Total cook time was about 14 hours. May not need that much. More probably wouldn't hurt. Let it cool a bit. When it's ok to handle (no need to get burned), pour it through a metal coffee filter into a bid party cup ( big gulp or better). Those metal coffee filter seem to fit perfectly and let the butter drip into the cup. Let it drip a while ( the longer the better) and press ever so lightly on the now spent trim to get the rest of the butter. Here's where you have to be careful not to press too hard on the glob in the metal coffee filter. If the butter drips out it has less vegetable matter in it and it just taste like butter when used. If you press too hard, some of the leaf material is forced out along with the last bit of butter. Still not bad but the butter is green and you can taste of bit of the spent trim. Not bad just funny tasting to me. You can tell the difference between loaded and unloaded at least. Put the cup in the freezer for at least an hour or until it solidifies. The butter will be seperated on top of the water. Pull it from the freezer and set it in a little luke warm/hot water for about 15 sec to loosen it a bit. In the sink turn the cup upside down. The butter will slide out with a little coaxing (slide a knife down the side). The water will come rushing out and you will be left with a large yellow hockey puck. If there is any slime on the part of the puck where the butter met the water then cut/wipe that off. It's bitter as hell. Take your newly minted yellow hockey puck and cut into 4 pieces and use in reciepes as you would a stick of butter.

Thanks Crazy,
I will probably be giving that a try, but I figured since I already have a nice amount of iso hash that I could use some of that in the butter and bypass all of the cooking and freezing..lol I'm just a bit lazy and I hear it's pretty aromatic..
Mrs Grazz wouldn't like that too much.

G

 

[zechbro]

Thanks Crazy,
I will probably be giving that a try, but I figured since I already have a nice amount of iso hash that I could use some of that in the butter and bypass all of the cooking and freezing..lol I'm just a bit lazy and I hear it's pretty aromatic..
Mrs Grazz wouldn't like that too much.

G

iso hash? ive made oils befor using iso, do you just leave it a lil longer and does it solidfy?

 

[MostlyCrazy]

You prefer the direct approach I see! I just wait till she goes to sleep and get up before she does and spray Frebreeze. 35 years experience will teach you a trick or two! LOL! I have a chuck or two of ISO around here somewhere!

 

[Grazzmon]

iso hash? ive made oils befor using iso, do you just leave it a lil longer and does it solidfy?

Zechbro,

It's actually just a sticky marble size ball..and I figure that it will melt pretty quickly with the butter. It's some really potent smoke and I can just imagine the brownies or cookies...ummmmm

G

 

[Doobieus]

But Doob! If it didn't smell bad it wasn't mold! No one ever smokes mold more than once! LOL!

Oh no it smelled like shit don't get me wrong about that, but the taste was sooo much worse than it smelled . Definitely remember the taste more vividly than the smell though lol.

Someone would have to be one sick pup to smoke mold more than once ewww lol.

hey guys my 2 girls in scrog are just about ready to be put under the 250 for flowering.... i was wanting some input though... im using that green square plastic mesh that you get from the hardware store, each square is 2inches by 2 inches, so ive got a 4x6 squares per plant... reckon i could have a cola per hole in the mesh? or wil that be to crammed? should i go for every other square to give them some room? 12 tips per plant or 24?

That amount of spacing is fine for a cola per square, it'll be a little tight, but not unbearable or harmful.

Hope this helps Zech.

Zechbro,

It's actually just a sticky marble size ball..and I figure that it will melt pretty quickly with the butter. It's some really potent smoke and I can just imagine the brownies or cookies...ummmmm

G

Hash Cannabutter tutorial with pictures

Hope this helps

 

[MostlyCrazy]

Video is cool, Doob! Thanks.

 

[Mindmelted]

Doobs you Rock Girl....lol

 

[zechbro]

i second that you da man... i mean woman ahaha

 

[Grazzmon]

i second that you da man... i mean woman ahaha

Agreed, agreed!! Great post Doobs..

Nice link to hash butter, Thanks.. I may have to adjust for the iso right? From what I have tried (one hitter of scrapings blew me away) and read Qwiso is more potent than hash.

But, then again I may be a lightweight, I took roughly a 20 year break...lol

G

 

[zechbro]

yo grazzmo that iso hash, its when you get iso mix it with herb, strain it then boil it off yea? we make it here but we call it oils, its usually the consistancy of honey and golden if color if the cabb is briefly dunked in the iso, and turns greener the longer its left to sit.... how do you get it to go rock hard? or is it still soft?

 

[Grazzmon]

yo grazzmo that iso hash, its when you get iso mix it with herb, strain it then boil it off yea? we make it here but we call it oils, its usually the consistancy of honey and golden if color if the cabb is briefly dunked in the iso, and turns greener the longer its left to sit.... how do you get it to go rock hard? or is it still soft?

Zechbro, yeah thats the stuff, I do a 30 second vigorous shake and just let it evaporate. It never gets rock hard, it's at the best like a putty ball and turns to liquid as soon as you put heat to it.

G

 

[AlteredBeast]

The Third Dimension update. Day 38 of flower.

 

[Doobieus]

Video is cool, Doob! Thanks.

Lol no problem.

Doobs you Rock Girl....lol

Noooo you rock Mind!! Lol but thank you.

i second that you da man... i mean woman ahaha

Lol this one had me laughing good zech lol, thanks.

Agreed, agreed!! Great post Doobs..

Nice link to hash butter, Thanks.. I may have to adjust for the iso right? From what I have tried (one hitter of scrapings blew me away) and read Qwiso is more potent than hash.

But, then again I may be a lightweight, I took roughly a 20 year break...lol

G

A little but not very much, iso hash is basically like budder or honey oil that's been heated for too long and whipped. You're doing the same thing with iso that you would do with butane.

You should only really have a slight problem with the potency being a little much, other than that everything else should fall in place.

Since butter has oils in it, it works as a catalyst between the oils in the butter and the oils from the hash/hash oil, binding the oils together in the butter.

Hope this helps Grazz, thanks for the compliment, and you're welcome.

The Third Dimension update. Day 38 of flower.

Looking awesome Altered keep up the great work dude.

 

[zechbro]

The Third Dimension update. Day 38 of flower.

alterewd that looks sicks... there so devaloped for 5 weeks... when do you think they will be done? is it soil or hydro?

 

[70s Stoner]

Wretched420, Thanks for this great idea and post. I am just starting out this season and this fits into what type of grow I am projecting. What I cal Kitchen Cabinet Grows, Not that I would grow in the Kitchen..... Well? ... No, Anyway I am and plan to continue to continue to prefect my method and this is sure some good info. I split time with my plants that are in veg mode between inside and outside lighting to save $$ on the e bill. So at 8 pm every night they go back into the cupboard till 8 am the next morn. I do the same for my flowering plants. I bring them into total dark in a cabinet at 7 pm and bring them back out at 8 am the next. I like to give them that extra hour in cabinet darkness to be sure it is sure the days are getting shorter little lady, start making your pretty flowers! So far it is working great! When my veg plants get sufficiently healthy happy and about 2.5 ‘ tall I start leaving them out doors with a dim light timed to come on every night at 8 pm and off at 8 am. I am quite sure I am not the first to come up with these few simple methods, that’s not so much why I bring them up, I only explain my current grow and my ideas as an effort to try and introduce myself as efficiently as I can. I look forward to our future friendships and endeavors. And yes I was around and growing and breeding some of our great ancestral strains. We are worlds from that time now and I look forward to coming to all your combined wisdom out there Rollitup, Let’s Grow!!

 

[MostlyCrazy]

Only problem I see with the in and out is bugs. Any trouble in that area?

Altered, Those are some dank buds! Was looking at that strain too and you're one hell of a ginnea pig! LOL!