We should have elected Ron Paul

CrackerJax

New Member
I just don't see the Independent party taking a top slot in the next Presidential election. I think Paul has some very good ideas, but it's not hard to say that he would have done a better job. Practically ANYONE would have done a better job. That's how messed up things are now, and only getting worse.

I think Paul would get the door cracked open by being picked up as a V.P.


America just took a leap of faith and it has cost her dearly. She will be reluctant to do a repeat performance. Just my 2 cents.
 

medicineman

New Member
And another thing Med!!

If everything you say about Ron Paul were true,
don't you think he would have got a little play from all the big finaciers?
Obama got almost a million from Goldmen Sachs.
'Nuff said.
Look, I've conceded that Paul had a lot of things I liked, Less Military, pull troops out of foriegn lands, less foriegn aid to despots, end lobbying, reduce government, and many more, But, He was a de-regulator. He would open this country up to the likes of the Bernie Madoffs in this world. Want to know why he didn't get any big money? He was anti military-industrial complex. Had he actually had a chance, I would have re-considered my vote. I voted as much against McCain as for Obama. I'd hate to see what this country would look like now under McCain. We'd be for sure at war with Iran and most of our troops in Iraq would have been slaughtered. Iran has stated that the first thing they'd do if we declared war on them would be to invade Iraq with killing as many Americans as they could in mind. 1 million+ Kuds and another 2 million under arms invading Iraq, teaming up with the Iraqis to execute Americans, might not be a pretty sight. Keep in mind (after seeing how the Iraqis reacted to our troop pull out) that the Iraqi Army would gladly join the Iranians in the bloodbath. BTW, the Iranians have some sophisticated weapons themselves, outside of Nuclear, they could pretty much match us weapon for weapon. Maybe a little less on air power.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Hehe yeah you want that military industrial complex to stay nice and rich from your tax money eh Med? Ron Paul was the #1 on the list from private donations, in fact he set the record. Your right he didn't get the billions from the big corps and banks, but of course they would never support someone who is going to put said corps and banks out of business. **Begin Sarcasm**** I just love it when we offer money to a country to help them with infrastructure, and then when they can't pay back the loan we go in and start taking over. If they still don't play ball well we just kill anyone in our way. Yep it sure is great to be an American, I feel so damn proud of my leaders, they are so ethical and righteous. *end Sarcasm** There is no country that has the military tech we do Med, NO ONE!!! Whatever tech you think they have, we have something generations better. Some of the equipment I worked on in the Military is still considered "Super High Tech" for the civilian world, and that was 20 years ago.
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
I'm just givin' you shit Med.

I just want someone who will stop everything and say:
Is it even Constitutional?
Do we need the Patriot Act?
Do we need Rendition?
Do we need a FED?
Do we need Endless wars?
Do we need to bail out banks?
Do we need to own Auto manufacturers?
Do we need to mandate geneticly engineered food?
Do we need a drug war?
The list goes on and on.

It just seems everything has been moving to fast.
I feel confused, rushed and led around by the nose.
I feel the country has lost its 'center'.
I feel like the people are just chasing after whoever will promise them free shit.

I support Ron Paul because he doesn't promice me anything.
He doesn't want to run my life.
He will tell you he is not qualified to even try.
Unlike Most other polititions who revel in running everything.
Ron Paul wants you to be free.

Paul wasn't just against the military industrial complex.
Every 'complex' has its roots in central banking.
Paul hates the central banks and the 'money powers'
Thats why he gets no media love and no donation love.

Who can stand before Obama next election and debate him with a strait face?
McLame been their done that.
Palin? Shes qualified to be assitant manager of a walmart, so cleary she is the best Neo-Con.
Romney, just eeeww look at that guy doesn't he just scream ..... eeewww!
Jeb Bush, BUSH! BUSH!! NO GOD!!
Mark Sanford, got cought chasing strange, foreign strange at that.

Who they gonna roll out?
RON PAUL LIVES
and as long as he does the republican party still has a soul.
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
BTW I don't blame anyone for voteing for Obama over McCane.
I'm just sick of getting this shitty choice vs. shitty choice.
Its Bullshit and I'm sick of it.

Again he is a de-regulator.
However he is not someone who will give special privledge.
IMO government granting special privledge is worse then de-regulation.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
I also understand why ppl didn't vote for McCain. I think they were completely blind to issues, but I understand.

Who I truly applaud are the ones on this forum who voted for Obama and have now seen the "LIGHT". This is a sign of an open mind.....

The rest who hang on to Obama after these last 4 months? Pish tosh....they will never be able to see things for themselves. Closed minds.....perfect droids for a Socialist system.
 

Parker

Well-Known Member
Had he actually had a chance, I would have re-considered my vote. I voted as much against McCain as for Obama.
That's the problem with too many Americans. Peer pressure. I always thought the idea was to vote for the most qualified not for who you think will win.
Voting for the lessor of two evils is still voting for evil. I hope the voters have learned a valuable lesson.
 

Browntown777

Well-Known Member
Oh, it's a valuable lesson alright.


Obama has his hands on our valuables......
bah ha ha ha ha

let see how many cray libs are singing Obama's name from the hilltops in four years. Just because they can't admit they were wrong, even when it is obvious.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
At least 50% of the people will stand behind Obama..... since about 50% pay no taxes and are only receiving and not giving. Obama is working very hard to increase their numbers.
 

medicineman

New Member
That's the problem with too many Americans. Peer pressure. I always thought the idea was to vote for the most qualified not for who you think will win.
Voting for the lessor of two evils is still voting for evil. I hope the voters have learned a valuable lesson.
Well Parker, I guess not everyone is as Idealistic as you. Myself, I watched the whole procedure and when I determined Paul had no chance, I decided that McCain was just too wild for the presidency, after all, he almost sunk the Forester, and he was supposedly on our side,~LOL~. Thats's when I knew that Obama was the only choice. It was not a matter of peer pressure at all, but a moment of clarity. The sun hasn't yet set on Obama's liberal agenda (Thank God), so he may yet do us lefties the good turns he promised. We are like two opposing trains of thought, you and I. Who is correct? I guess time will tell. I am not wholly pleased with Obamas agenda as of yet. Hopefully he will pull his head out. He has the clout right now to push through our liberal agenda, does he have the Balls?
 

medicineman

New Member
I'm just givin' you shit Med.

I just want someone who will stop everything and say:
Is it even Constitutional?
Do we need the Patriot Act?
Do we need Rendition?
Do we need a FED?
Do we need Endless wars?
Do we need to bail out banks?
Do we need to own Auto manufacturers?
Do we need to mandate geneticly engineered food?
Do we need a drug war?
The list goes on and on.

It just seems everything has been moving to fast.
I feel confused, rushed and led around by the nose.
I feel the country has lost its 'center'.
I feel like the people are just chasing after whoever will promise them free shit.

I support Ron Paul because he doesn't promice me anything.
He doesn't want to run my life.
He will tell you he is not qualified to even try.
Unlike Most other polititions who revel in running everything.
Ron Paul wants you to be free.

Paul wasn't just against the military industrial complex.
Every 'complex' has its roots in central banking.
Paul hates the central banks and the 'money powers'
Thats why he gets no media love and no donation love.

Who can stand before Obama next election and debate him with a strait face?
McLame been their done that.
Palin? Shes qualified to be assitant manager of a walmart, so cleary she is the best Neo-Con.
Romney, just eeeww look at that guy doesn't he just scream ..... eeewww!
Jeb Bush, BUSH! BUSH!! NO GOD!!
Mark Sanford, got cought chasing strange, foreign strange at that.

Who they gonna roll out?
RON PAUL LIVES
and as long as he does the republican party still has a soul.
As I've said over and over, I liked most of Pauls agenda. It was the privatizing of everything that I took issue with. Wall street and the Bankers have shown us what unfettered capitalism is, it aint purty Homer. To all the Bernie Madoffs of the world, I say fuck you motherfuckers.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Nothing needs to be privatized, it already is. Things need to be taken BACK from the govt., and that's just and true. Okay Chavez?
 

medicineman

New Member
Nothing needs to be privatized, it already is. Things need to be taken BACK from the govt., and that's just and true. Okay Chavez?
Please tell me what roll the government had in the greedy fuck Bernie Madoffs rip-off? There are a few hundred thousand greedy fucks like Madoff in the private and I'll agree, government sector. At least in the government sector, we have some semblance of control. I'd bet if left untethered, you would be as bad as Madoff.
 

ViRedd

New Member
Please tell me what roll the government had in the greedy fuck Bernie Madoffs rip-off?
Other than the fact that the FTC was warned many times over the years by Wall Street analysts ... AND DID NOTHING, I'd say the government played a large roll in Madoff's duping of his victims. If you don't believe me, would you believe MSNBC?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28310980/

And now we come to the question of why the FTC regulators involved are not sitting beside Madoff in a cell of their own?

Vi
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Please tell me what roll the government had in the greedy fuck Bernie Madoffs rip-off? There are a few hundred thousand greedy fucks like Madoff in the private and I'll agree, government sector. At least in the government sector, we have some semblance of control. I'd bet if left untethered, you would be as bad as Madoff.
The paperpushers ignored some one that came to them with evidence of faulty returns. Your reliance upon the government is a blindness Med o Mao. The government, like a fire, is a dangerous tool, and a dreadful master.
 
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