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OK, so I'm seriously considering a 400w switchable digital setup to accommodate both mh and hps lamps. My question is this, which brand of bulbs, in your humble opinion, is the best bulbs to use for flowering and vegging?

Most complete systems I'm eyeballing come with what everyone seems to call 'standard' mh and hps bulbs.

What do you use?
 
DeweyKox

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I have used both over a $100 bulb vs. Cheap $50 ones and got great results for both. Mileage may very.... I have a 400w setup!!!! And loved it!
 
GrowKindNugs

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Heads Up said:
OK, so I'm seriously considering a 400w switchable digital setup to accommodate both mh and hps lamps. My question is this, which brand of bulbs, in your humble opinion, is the best bulbs to use for flowering and vegging?

Most complete systems I'm eyeballing come with what everyone seems to call 'standard' mh and hps bulbs.

What do you use?
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i'm not a light expert..i've just always gotten cheap stuff and it seems to work fine...my current setup is actually a 400 mh light, and i use a conversion mh bulb that makes it hps for flowering...it was cheap, like 40 sumpin bucks, and it works on less watts, 360 i think...so for veggin i just pump the normal mh and flowering i pop in the hps conversion bulb..it's cool, looks like a mh bulb but burns orange like hps..the mix bulbs that burn orange and blue are supposed to be the best, growlux i think there called...not sure if that helped at all, i'm ripped...ended up gettin a 60 dollar 8th, pretty good bud, i just hate buying it...


gkn
 
DeweyKox

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2 months will go fast. Just keep ur left eye ball glued to the grow op, and the right eye ball glued to RIU!
 
GrowKindNugs

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DeweyKox said:
2 months will go fast. Just keep ur left eye ball glued to the grow op, and the right eye ball glued to RIU!
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Yeah, you're right about that...i wish i could be put to sleep for 2 months, haha, i'm only kidding...i'll be here, i never stop reading and researching..take care :peace:


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Green Cross

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Great thread guys,

I'm liking GKN's organic soil grow under 400w. I have the same thing going and just switched to 12/12 on the 4th.

On bulbs: Look into CMH bulbs (they burn in a HPS ballast) and the plants love the spectrum. They're $60 and no need to switch ballasts. the spectrum has enough red that I'm planning to run them throughout flower.

I just joined the RIU community today, so be gentle. Here's a couple pics of my setup.
 

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Green Cross said:
Great thread guys,

I'm liking GKN's organic soil grow under 400w. I have the same thing going and just switched to 12/12 on the 4th.

On bulbs: Look into CMH bulbs (they burn in a HPS ballast) and the plants love the spectrum. They're $60 and no need to switch ballasts. the spectrum has enough red that I'm planning to run them throughout flower.

I just joined the RIU community today, so be gentle. Here's a couple pics of my setup.
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Thanks alot my brotha, and glad to have ya aboard...what strains you running there? and nice setup, i like what you got goin, real clean...there's a pretty good bit of assholes and weirdos here, but not in this peaceful thread, only cool dudes here, hahaha...we'll be gentle, i promise...
happy growing...:peace:


gkn
 
Green Cross

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Thanks for the kind words

I really like your idea of loading up the soil with organics, and letting the plants eat it up into flowering. I'm thinking manure, worm casings, bone meal, green sand, perlite, soilless mix, and probably a 1/2 cup of lime per cubic foot to even out the PH.

Here's my lineup: I have 4 bagseed plants I started 3 months ago and LSTed the crap out-of while getting my grow dialed in. 3 out of the 4 have already shown female sex. 2 are indica, 2 seem to be a sativa/indica or skunk mix. The one is really stinky can't wait to see what she puts out.

6 are DJ Shorts Blue Moonshine. I have on purple pheno - the rest are pretty much identicle. Oh and I had 2 seedlings come out of one seed, and that's why there's 6! :clap: Twins!

The other 2 were freebies gigabud and quick silver (auto-flowering but no showyet) All feminized. I plan to clone gigabud and moonshine for the next grow, before they get to far into flower.

I can't wait to get back in there with the camera, so I can get some better pics, but they're sleeping.

Don't mean to hijack your thread here, but damn I'm excited

Here's moonshine purple pheno, unknown indica LST, gigabud, quicksilver, and unknown skunk hybrid, in that order.
 

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Green Cross said:
Thanks for the kind words

I really like your idea of loading up the soil with organics, and letting the plants eat it up into flowering. I'm thinking manure, worm casings, bone meal, green sand, perlite, soilless mix, and probably a 1/2 cup of lime per cubic foot to even out the PH.

Here's my lineup: I have 4 bagseed plants I started 3 months ago and LSTed the crap out-of while getting my grow dialed in. 3 out of the 4 have already shown female sex. 2 are indica, 2 seem to be a sativa/indica or skunk mix. The one is really stinky can't wait to see what she puts out.

6 are DJ Shorts Blue Moonshine. I have on purple pheno - the rest are pretty much identicle. Oh and I had 2 seedlings come out of one seed, and that's why there's 6! :clap: Twins!

The other 2 were freebies gigabud and quick silver (auto-flowering but no showyet) All feminized. I plan to clone gigabud and moonshine for the next grow, before they get to far into flower.

I can't wait to get back in there with the camera, so I can get some better pics, but they're sleeping.

Don't mean to hijack your thread here, but damn I'm excited

Here's moonshine purple pheno, unknown indica LST, gigabud, quicksilver, and unknown skunk hybrid, in that order.
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yeah man, no problem...i love the idea, and it's my first time doin 100% organic and not having to use veg nutes...i think i may add some lime at some point...so far the plants are really thriving in this lush mix and the growth is starting to explode...some real dank has come from bagseed, so nothing wrong with that...and i hear great things bout dj's gear...don't worry bout blowing up the thread, i love all the pics and love...some dudes don't like other folks postin in their journals, i'm forsure not one of those, keep em coming...I know how ya feel, i can hardly conatin myself sometimes, the excitement and rewarding feeling that growing this wonderful, magical plant, brings me is like nothing else...i noticed today that one of my purple wrecks has all purple stems and pretty much purp everywhere except the leaves, does this mean this will be the purple pheno?? it can't be a difficiency cause all other plants are perfect and the other pw's are regular green...i hear there's 2 distince pheno's of pw, 1 is more trainwreck and the other is more erkel, so that's awesome if it's the purp pheno...i'm gonna throw em outside here in a week or so, they should get pretty big and i'm praying for at least 1 lady outta 3.....:blsmoke:

gkn
 
GrowKindNugs

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and cross, you must be doing alot right cause that garden is looking awesome so far! keep up the green work my friend...:mrgreen:


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Green Cross

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yeah man, no problem...i love the idea, and it's my first time doin 100% organic and not having to use veg nutes...i think i may add some lime at some point...so far the plants are really thriving in this lush mix and the growth is starting to explode...some real dank has come from bagseed, so nothing wrong with that...and i hear great things bout dj's gear...don't worry bout blowing up the thread, i love all the pics and love...some dudes don't like other folks postin in their journals, i'm forsure not one of those, keep em coming...I know how ya feel, i can hardly conatin myself sometimes, the excitement and rewarding feeling that growing this wonderful, magical plant, brings me is like nothing else...i noticed today that one of my purple wrecks has all purple stems and pretty much purp everywhere except the leaves, does this mean this will be the purple pheno?? it can't be a difficiency cause all other plants are perfect and the other pw's are regular green...i hear there's 2 distince pheno's of pw, 1 is more trainwreck and the other is more erkel, so that's awesome if it's the purp pheno...i'm gonna throw em outside here in a week or so, they should get pretty big and i'm praying for at least 1 lady outta 3.....:blsmoke:

gkn
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Who knows, but It will be interesting to see if the buds are more colorful on the purple stemmed plants. A lot of things can cause color, too much nutes, cool temps, but I figure if you plant 5 seeds and treet them all the same, any major differences must be genetic. Actually the 2 indica bagseed I started with came out of the shell with some purple on them, so I'm kind of hoping one of them is male so I can possibly do a little cross breeding, and make a little seed.

Trainwreck is some good smoke. I have some K-train (kush + trainwreck) seed standing by, but I figure I'll wear out the blue moonshine grow first. My bro has stage 4 stomach cancer so I hope I can help him out with some devastating smoke whenever he needs it.
 
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Green Cross said:
Who knows, but It will be interesting to see if the buds are more colorful on the purple stemmed plants. A lot of things can cause color, too much nutes, cool temps, but I figure if you plant 5 seeds and treet them all the same, any major differences must be genetic. Actually the 2 indica bagseed I started with came out of the shell with some purple on them, so I'm kind of hoping one of them is male so I can possibly do a little cross breeding, and make a little seed.

Trainwreck is some good smoke. I have some K-train (kush + trainwreck) seed standing by, but I figure I'll wear out the blue moonshine grow first. My bro has stage 4 stomach cancer so I hope I can help him out with some devastating smoke whenever he needs it.
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i also had a pw seedling come out with purple on it, amazing...i don't think i've ever had true trainwreck, but i hear it's quite potent...i can't wait to see how these turn out, oh the patience it takes to be a grower....that's awesome you can help your bro out with good meds, i bet he loves you!


gkn
 
GrowKindNugs

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great journal GC...i'm having a few buddies over for a big session, i'll be back around later....happy growing....:joint:

gkn
 
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Hello everybody, i've been here a while, i'm GKN and this will be my 3rd journal...Everyone is more than welcomed to post away, only positive vibes of course, leave the shit talking at the door...:weed:
This will be my 2nd go round with autoflowering strains and i'm already a huge fan...I have 10 diesel ryders, 1 fem white dwarf and 1 fem easy ryder...i'm also gonna be vegging 3 purple wrecks that are goin outside in a couple weeks, along with my own cross, rhinoberry, that i copied from a member here....i'm a long time dirt grower and this run i'm trying a new mix, the moonshine mix...it's 100% organic and you don't need to add any veg nutes, and during flowering you add whatever organic ammendments you like...the mix consists of 1 bag of ocean forest, 1 bag light warrior, and 1 bag planting mix, along with 2 five gal buckets of perlite...i've got the auto ak in a huge 5 gal container, the white dwarf is in a 3 gal, so these should yield nicely...i also plan on taking the best male diesel ryder with a nice female dr, and putting them outside to make a ton of seeds, hopefully 300 or so...the remaining males will be killed and the ladies will be transplanted to 3 gal pots...same setup as before, 400 mh/hps, fans galore, central a/c blowing right in from top, and i cut a small circle for a fan on bottome for intake and in general made the corner of the bedroom and bit more closed in...well i think that's it for now, i won't bore ya'll with lots of veg pics, but open discussion and debate are very welcomed....peace and happy growing.



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GKN, are you saying you use no chemical fertilizer at all? I plan for my next grow to use a mix of ocean forest, light warrior and some mushroom compost. I always put extra worm casting in my soil along with a few other things like rare earth, a silica, and mycowhatever tablets for the roots. I'm now into week six of flowering. Two of my plants don't seem to like the 11-35-15 orchid bloom I'm giving them, so I haven't given them any chemical flowering ferts for like a week now, they do still get tiger bloom and big bloom. This weeks water is tiger bloom and big bloom with molasses. Do you know, is this enough for the girls for the rest of their time on this earth? All opinions welcome.
 
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