SS420's new hydro grow - Blueberry, White Shark, ChemDog, OG kush

[Lennard]

sorry about mixing up the 1000s and 600s.. sometimes i switch parts of other grows in my head.. i appologize as it prolly wont be the last time it happens...

first im glad to hear you at least got a couple degrees of relief... can you possibly add a fresh air duct from the window into the grow tent to passively bring in fresh air?? it will help co2 levels.. the higher the temps the more co2 you need to add to suppliment because it gets used up faster.. butas long as you are moving air around well you should be ok.. it shouldnt affect growth to much... which brings me to the mg issue...

you might not have an mg deficiency at all... generally speaking there is enough mg in soil that we really dont need to add any during growth... that is not to say its doesnt happen.. but usually the problem lies else where...

low MG is usually related to a soil PH problem... soils that seem to lack mg are usually acidic... mg gets locked out as PH gets lower... so the problem could be just that your soil is too acidic and that the mg is getting locked out... do you know or have you checked the soil ph or run off ph?? it could be just as simple as raising the soil ph...

now this brings up whether to use epsom salt of dolomite lime... epsom salt will not actually raise the soils ph.. its a neutral salt and does little if anything for the soil ph... so if the soils ph is low, and that is whats causing the lock out, you should use dolomitic lime to raise it... this will make the mg available again and things will go back to normal.. if the soils PH is ok, which means it actually is an MG def, then adding epsom salt will replenish the mg... but make sure you check the soils ph before adding either dolomite lime or epsom salt.. if the problem is the ph, adding epsom salt will only further the problem... but if ph is ok and it is an MG def the lime will do nothing to help...

as far as the EC of the nutes... the 1.2 to 1.8 is the ideal range to have when you have everything total mixed in... so if its saying that you want an ec of 1.2 to 1.8, that is the finish ec after you have added everything in water for feeding..

My PH is 6.5 solid. I dont exactly have a ph meter but I use the drips. I check ph and EC before it goes into the pots and when it sits in the drain pan everyday on a day to day basis. I cut out the cal-mag to add in the sweet. Retarded idea now that I write it down but it sure sounded good for a while b/c cal mag is such a PPM hog. I just gave them all some tap water and a 10ml / gal shot of cal mag. I have epsom salt too but use it for cleaning my bongs I dont know how much to use for my plants , I grow in coco, its inert and pure so maybe there isnt any Mg without my feeding it on a regimen?

I used to use Gen Hydro flora veg and bloom which was everything I needed in one, the canna coco nutes Im using dont have any of those goodies in there I suppose. Im going to do a better job at making all the nutes get into the mix. Hopefully it will straighten it out.

You have been a great help I really do appreciate it. Currently, I think that its not the lights or the heat as much as it is the Mg, well a combination of all of that surely so, but the leaves arent looking like the bleached leaves that are in the link I posted earlier, it looks a lot more like Mg, my leaves almost crack when I touch or bend some of them they curl into each other... idk it just seems right on spot. Its great to have someone to bounce ideas off of as well owe you big sir. what you think?

 

[Tomic]

Good morning, Hope all is okay, myself i have been up since 3 am 2 wait for the lights 2 go on so i can go and check if i can see the sex of the plants, but looks like i have 2 wait couple of days more 2 be sure. other wise i just have 1 more problem, notting 2 do with plants, its just the mokeys around here start 2 get 2 close 2 my flat, so i will buy a airgun, so i can shot them in the ass if they come 2 close. Here is a pic of my plants, and i know i dont have any mylar, but i will do that next grow when i understand more Will post a pic of the monkeys later when i get a closer pic of them.

 

[simpsonsampson420]

Ya SS i spent this morning fucking round on the computer..posted a craigslist advert in small bizness services tryn to snag up a couple more patinets with a caregiver add.. then i wuz tryn to create a web page..domain name and all that..but its looking pitful without some cash on that end.. or some web know how.. Then i started checking out different hardware for hydro..just googling pricing and systems.. I really just focused on ebb and flow, because when i do switch, ive just been set on the flood and drain for awhile...I orginally was thinking of filling my back wall of my bud room, with a 4x8tray, and then adding another 3x3 on the end. those 4x8 complete tray drain pump and plumping, with the bonicare trays and table are like at least 1k not to mention another full tray and rez for the 3x3. Which brings me to my second thought while trolling around for hydro products..........Then ebb and gro, that your using was like 5 billz...and i totally like how u can pull the inner site right out of the buket, for rotating it. and its expanable by 6 sites at a time. Now im really wanting to see this bitch in action.

funny you should mention that.. i was wanting to actually update you all on whats going on right now with the grow... i actually ended up supercropping all the girls... and they all responded lovely.. except the 2 really sickly looking clones... i am going to take some new pics in a day or so and show you all... but TM, i love it.. its so bad ass.... growth is fucking amazing now that i got the chiller.. its so low maintainence.. the res change is the worst part.. and you might have to get a chiller because if the water temp is too high there will be no growth... each res can hold up to 48 sites, and you can custom run them however you want.. thing is once you run them you cant move them.. you have to keep the tube between the sites straight and flat and keep it from kinking or it wont flood and drain right... i taped all my tubes down... but ya.. ill post some new pics of the progress in tomorrow.. hopefully i get the order in tomorrow and can get them going.. im really excited to see what it can do with some unstressed strong seeds

My PH is 6.5 solid. I dont exactly have a ph meter but I use the drips. I check ph and EC before it goes into the pots and when it sits in the drain pan everyday on a day to day basis. I cut out the cal-mag to add in the sweet. Retarded idea now that I write it down but it sure sounded good for a while b/c cal mag is such a PPM hog. I just gave them all some tap water and a 10ml / gal shot of cal mag. I have epsom salt too but use it for cleaning my bongs I dont know how much to use for my plants , I grow in coco, its inert and pure so maybe there isnt any Mg without my feeding it on a regimen?

I used to use Gen Hydro flora veg and bloom which was everything I needed in one, the canna coco nutes Im using dont have any of those goodies in there I suppose. Im going to do a better job at making all the nutes get into the mix. Hopefully it will straighten it out.

You have been a great help I really do appreciate it. Currently, I think that its not the lights or the heat as much as it is the Mg, well a combination of all of that surely so, but the leaves arent looking like the bleached leaves that are in the link I posted earlier, it looks a lot more like Mg, my leaves almost crack when I touch or bend some of them they curl into each other... idk it just seems right on spot. Its great to have someone to bounce ideas off of as well owe you big sir. what you think?

oh yea.. if you are growing in coco you need to constantly replenish the mg... damn.. wish i would have just asked about it from the beginning... these are things i should be asking from the get go as a "mentor".. or at least think of asking.. live and learn tho.. but yes... there's your problem

if you use epsom salt start out at 1/4 tsp. per gallon and see if that is enough... if it isnt you can increase it slowly... just make sure to see how your girl is reacting and not to over do it... should see improvement over the 24 to 48 hour period after application..

Good morning, Hope all is okay, myself i have been up since 3 am 2 wait for the lights 2 go on so i can go and check if i can see the sex of the plants, but looks like i have 2 wait couple of days more 2 be sure. other wise i just have 1 more problem, notting 2 do with plants, its just the mokeys around here start 2 get 2 close 2 my flat, so i will buy a airgun, so i can shot them in the ass if they come 2 close. Here is a pic of my plants, and i know i dont have any mylar, but i will do that next grow when i understand more Will post a pic of the monkeys later when i get a closer pic of them.

the wait can be brutal... i remember my first flower cycle and how pain staking it was waiting for sex to show... should be anytime tho!!

i cant believe you have monkey problems like that... an air gun will help keep them away for sure... a good shot at their ass will get them running off..

plants are looking good... you might need to use a post or support them up once they start budding.. be ready for that... hope you have some ladies

 

[Quickee]

i want that system your running so bad..ive wanted one for awhile

 

[simpsonsampson420]

i want that system your running so bad..ive wanted one for awhile

its worth it.. every penny.. i am going to get a second one for my flower room that im setting up after i get this grow out of the way...

 

[slipperyP]

LOL...Monkey Problems..lol

 

[tilemaster]

ya wtf dude live monkeys harassing a indoor grow..i must be high lmao. anyways wut u say SS if a mofucker had the doe to flop, would u go for a large ebb and flow tray system that filled ur space up, UR new ebb and gro, or a big ass areoponics setup? if cash wuz of no concern?

 

[Lennard]

oh yea.. if you are growing in coco you need to constantly replenish the mg... damn.. wish i would have just asked about it from the beginning... these are things i should be asking from the get go as a "mentor".. or at least think of asking.. live and learn tho.. but yes... there's your problem

if you use epsom salt start out at 1/4 tsp. per gallon and see if that is enough... if it isnt you can increase it slowly... just make sure to see how your girl is reacting and not to over do it... should see improvement over the 24 to 48 hour period after application..

will the coloring come back up or will the spread just stop you think?

 

[Tomic]

ya wtf dude live monkeys harassing a indoor grow..i must be high lmao. anyways wut u say SS if a mofucker had the doe to flop, would u go for a large ebb and flow tray system that filled ur space up, UR new ebb and gro, or a big ass areoponics setup? if cash wuz of no concern?

The are not a problem yet, but they are getting close 2 be a problem. I don't think anybody wanna have them in ur home, because this. i remember 1 time when the basters did come in, it was not fun 2 clean up after them they did eat everyting they did find, one have taken a bite from the soap bar. i hope that monkey did shit bubbles that time

 

[simpsonsampson420]

will the coloring come back up or will the spread just stop you think?

oh everything should fix itself.. color should return.. leaves should stop curling... everything will be like it once was...

The are not a problem yet, but they are getting close 2 be a problem. I don't think anybody wanna have them in ur home, because this. i remember 1 time when the basters did come in, it was not fun 2 clean up after them they did eat everyting they did find, one have taken a bite from the soap bar. i hope that monkey did shit bubbles that time

bet its the last time he eats soap...

 

[tilemaster]

where does this Tomic feller live..or does he have pet monkeys.. still on the wtf?!

 

[simpsonsampson420]

he lives on the other side of the world.... like 180 degrees different from us.. not like a tribe in the middle of no where or nothing.. but somewhere that the deers and antelopes that play here are replaced by monkeys and cougars... well monkeys for sure.. just guess bought the cougars...


shit forgot to say... USPS just updated my order... it arrived in the states on the 5th (within 24 hours of me ordering it)... so im expecting it today for sure... i figure it probably went out on tuesday since it was international and had to be sorted... so today i should recieve my goodies!!

 

[tilemaster]

st8 crazy.. dude if the monkeys were bothering me id have a assortment of toyz for them from BB's to paint ballz. glad to hear the orders almost there for ya SS...

 

[mygirls]

morning guys, hows things in your gardens of green. i sleep like a baby last night cuz of the new security system.

 

[tilemaster]

me too face down st8 drooling in my sheets

 

[simpsonsampson420]

morning guys, hows things in your gardens of green. i sleep like a baby last night cuz of the new security system.

morning bro.. glad you got a good nights sleep.. nothing beats it... new system works good huh??

me too face down st8 drooling in my sheets

well all know why you were sleeping face down, knuckle...


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got a few pics to update... its been a week since i first installed the chiller.. and a couple days since i supercropped.. most all have responded well.. i tried to redo a poor supercrop on one blueberry and ended up over doing it.. so its looking a little rough.. hopefully she perks back up.. the stems bruised a little.. but nothing im too worried about... other than that they look great after a week... ill post the compaison pics.. the first one is last week and the second one is today.... the very last 3 will be the one i over did the supercrop on... from the first week, a day before the supercrop, and now...


i gotta say.. its pretty amazing to go from plants that were almost completely dead to these in only 7 days.... i am really stoked to see what happens to girls that arent stressed so much and have a good life from the beginning...

oh and also.. the order arrived in the US 3 days after i ordered it... it was shipped out 24 hours after i placed the order.. wanted to clear that up..

 

[tilemaster]

those def look like theyll pull thru.. they all look about a month old.. id def keep em. and if u have to make room for more site for better genes..yank em..and put em in soil. thats wut TM would do.

 

[mygirls]

hell ya looking good, for a rookie hydro grower......LOL just kidin..... when you plan on flowering.

 

[Tomic]

where does this Tomic feller live..or does he have pet monkeys.. still on the wtf?!

I live next too the hillside and there is wild monkeys living there. And this in a major city.

he lives on the other side of the world.... like 180 degrees different from us.. not like a tribe in the middle of no where or nothing.. but somewhere that the deers and antelopes that play here are replaced by monkeys and cougars... well monkeys for sure.. just guess bought the cougars...

Well no cougars but they have tigers in the jungle here

 

[simpsonsampson420]

hell ya looking good, for a rookie hydro grower......LOL just kidin..... when you plan on flowering.

got the new seeds in today.. so im going to germinate a few of them.. then i plan on about 4 weeks of veg.. so say 5 weeks or so from today?? your right about the rookie thing tho..

I live next too the hillside and there is wild monkeys living there. And this in a major city.





Well no cougars but they have tigers in the jungle here

almost said monkeys and tigers... cougars just sounded cooler at the time.. lol