ssh she is suffering 12th week flower.. in depth // help please

DEVIOUZ0NE

Active Member
shes suffering.. literally.

new pics with all info



ssh blend 9ft, 10wk flower
figured flush now 2 wks shed be done.
some on rollitup told to keep nutes and go.

so i did. im new with sativas

now heres her 2wks later..



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all lower buds and leaves now look like this



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2wks ago before flush and following with the keeping on nutes



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after 2wks with same nutes..



DIFFERENT lighting in both images sorry.

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heres her upper mid nuggets NOW



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heres 2 wks ago

https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/208477-modest-sshxww-80-20-9wk.html



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Consider the info said

soil, big/tiger bloom (fox farm schedule)

normal temps 85 lower, etc

normal drainage maybe sometimes left untouched for a day or two in dual pod pot.

deadish leaves everywhere top to bottom, dont seen any big ones alive. heh, buds look ok, soils ok, im flushing with water and just doin that for the next wk or two.. i have some questions below.

shes looking so dry like overfertilized, she is drying up. it looks. very crystalizing tho

-what should be done shes at her 12th wk..
-80/20 clear cloudy trichs..
-should all lower growth be chopped which is real dry and hash it?

:joint::joint::joint::joint::joint::joint:for you all thx.
 

DEVIOUZ0NE

Active Member
buuuuuuuuuummmppp

I FIXED THE PICTURES BELOWWW SRY

shes suffering.. literally.
new pics with all info

ssh blend 9ft, 10wk flower
figured flush now 2 wks shed be done.
some on rollitup told to keep nutes and go.
so i did. im new with sativas
now heres her 2wks later..

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all lower buds and leaves now look like this

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2wks ago before flush and following with the keeping on nutes

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after 2wks with same nutes..

DIFFERENT lighting in both images sorry.
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heres her upper mid nuggets NOW

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heres 2 wks ago
https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/208477-modest-sshxww-80-20-9wk.html
==========================
Consider the info said
soil, big/tiger bloom (fox farm schedule)
normal temps 85 lower, etc
normal drainage maybe sometimes left untouched for a day or two in dual pod pot.
deadish leaves everywhere top to bottom, dont seen any big ones alive. heh, buds look ok, soils ok, im flushing with water and just doin that for the next wk or two.. i have some questions below.
shes looking so dry like overfertilized, she is drying up. it looks. very crystalizing tho
-what should be done shes at her 12th wk..
-80/20 clear cloudy trichs..
-should all lower growth be chopped which is real dry and hash it?
for you all thx.
 

DEVIOUZ0NE

Active Member
shes dead, to think of it. should the lights be kept on?.. did a huge emerg flush overnight a lot of DARK brown, brown, brown, brown, brown, not changing. than maybe lightening up after about 6 gallons.

temp is fluxn 80~90 should i move her to the cold spot, she was doing PERFECTLY fine.
 

AKRevo47

Well-Known Member
god damn thats a big one!

the tops are still looking ok and its a good thing you flushed to clear run-off. just give a while and see if she recovers.

do you know the PH of your soil/runoff? what was your feedings like? i think it might be a nute lockout cuz its working its way up
 

jact55

Well-Known Member
wow, sorry to see this. i saw the thread you had posted earlier and she looked really good. I dont have any good answers for you, but i am not sure if is from the lack of flushing. i am sure there are plenty of people out there that dont flush and their plants dont just die. think that flushing is more to get the salts and chemicals out so the bud tastes better.

but then again, i have no idea what has happened, and your the best one to diagnose her, so good luck and sorry again.

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actually after reading the above post, the nute lockout does make sense so maybe a huge flush is the right answer.
 

DEVIOUZ0NE

Active Member
ok so mj now is crystalizing more mostly clear.

should all lower growth thats dead dead be removed? all of her buds top and bottom or dry, seem smokable off the plant, kind of weird? does that mean shes toast??? saw you say nut lockout, is that worst than overfert???

and lastly for the update, she is flushing somewhat more clear, better temps.. awaiting lower cut? shout to me gents.

-dev0ne

thx for the support!!:joint::joint::joint::joint:
 

DEVIOUZ0NE

Active Member
oh new to the table, one of her past big buds split the main stem, prob just going to have to let it cure, she wont repair herself rght?

i am able to see inside her here is a pic of what the top 12" of the inside of the stem shows, any help from the botanists?
 

jact55

Well-Known Member
nute lockout can actually occur from having too much of a certain nutrient, such as nitrogen, magnesium ect. so really nute lockout and over-ferting go hand in hand. for example a potassium defecieny can occur from too much sodium. so you would flush to get rid of this excess, allowing your plant to soak up the potassium. there are many different thing that can cause different lockouts, im sure that they say stuff about this in the stickys in plant problems.

as far as cutting the lower branches, i am kinda stumped. cause i wouldnt want you to stress the plant off more by cutting of half of its branches, but at the same time, i highly doubt those will recover. same with the big bud. kind of a fucked situation. never seen anything like it to be honest.

oh ya, there is no pic in your last post, is it private again?
 

jact55

Well-Known Member
wait, what kind of lighting do you have on her? this could be a really stupid question, but it isnt just those three cfls on the ceiling is it? i have to ask, but i doubt it...your plant is huge so i bet there is more, right?
 

DEVIOUZ0NE

Active Member
INNER RIPPED BRANCH top 12" node shot




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Snow "MJ" White
RIP Memorial Shot, last super good looking crystalized shot.

100 day veg + 12 wk flower..

-dev0ne



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death shot, i know she suffered..



Let you all know how she turns out smokewize!!



hrmm im going to let all her upper branches sit after the flush i removed all lower growth.. could she turn and start growth?

if shes nuted and stunned will she crystalize?
 

DEVIOUZ0NE

Active Member
wait, what kind of lighting do you have on her? this could be a really stupid question, but it isnt just those three cfls on the ceiling is it? i have to ask, but i doubt it...your plant is huge so i bet there is more, right?
haha those 3 cfls are a joke =P

i have two hps 400watters (one on)
 

AKRevo47

Well-Known Member
I think the top has a chance to make a come back. only time will tell, but she might look a little worse before she gets better. that bottom stuff might be a little harsh from the nutes but try her out and if its too bad im sure it would make some good butter!
 

DEVIOUZ0NE

Active Member
I think the top has a chance to make a come back. only time will tell, but she might look a little worse before she gets better. that bottom stuff might be a little harsh from the nutes but try her out and if its too bad im sure it would make some good butter!
ya bro.. u think those buds r not totally dead dead? lol.. they dry? idk tho first time for with this scenario.

let ya know about the butter.

any good reads on hash/bubblehash/kief??:joint:
 

twosaws

Well-Known Member
wow you get on here an ask for help the you LOL some one trying to help you thats sad and if you know its a lost and cant recover dont ask for help chop the son of abitch and move on. next time ask befor you totaly fuck it up!!
 
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chitownsmoking

Guest
god i hate sativas...... you have a 9 foot plant that will yield u less then a q/p no offense but that shit looks scraggley.
 

AKRevo47

Well-Known Member
ya bro.. u think those buds r not totally dead dead? lol.. they dry? idk tho first time for with this scenario.

let ya know about the butter.

any good reads on hash/bubblehash/kief??:joint:

i meant the tops, not the the bottom ones. Some of leaf up there looked pretty green still, and I cant really say seeing as Im not there to see it for myself and your pictures being crappy

I woulndt be too suprised if that butter doesnt come out tasting like some toxic waste with the amount of chemicals youll pull out along with the THC

Pick up a book and start reading and listen to twosaws, you wont be getting much help being a smartass, not to mention asking for help when your plant is already on its deathbed
 

usualsuspect

Active Member
Not enough light, gonna take forever to flower and the buds will look like the pics- airy and fluffy. Get an hps or way more CFL's, chop down what you got and start over. If the buds are that airy, its almost a lost cause. Hate to be pessimistic, but theres not gonna me much you can do for that giant.
 

DEVIOUZ0NE

Active Member
i meant the tops, not the the bottom ones. Some of leaf up there looked pretty green still, and I cant really say seeing as Im not there to see it for myself and your pictures being crappy

I woulndt be too suprised if that butter doesnt come out tasting like some toxic waste with the amount of chemicals youll pull out along with the THC

Pick up a book and start reading and listen to twosaws, you wont be getting much help being a smartass, not to mention asking for help when your plant is already on its deathbed
thanks for the help

Not enough light, gonna take forever to flower and the buds will look like the pics- airy and fluffy. Get an hps or way more CFL's, chop down what you got and start over. If the buds are that airy, its almost a lost cause. Hate to be pessimistic, but theres not gonna me much you can do for that giant.
there is an hps. you just dont see it. and im not too worried i just wanted to see if it could be revived whatever happened, it happened behind my back in a week. past is past. anyways, why does the bud come out airy? because it didnt take time to finish thickening up??
 
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