AG - Round 2

Who is the COOLEST?

  • FoxCompany

    Votes: 6 22.2%
  • PurpDaddy

    Votes: 6 22.2%
  • SICC

    Votes: 11 40.7%
  • Lurkmaster

    Votes: 1 3.7%
  • Katatawnic

    Votes: 3 11.1%

  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .

GypsyBush

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plants just look DONE... when they are done... and yes you have to anticipate a little bit to flush, but your buds still remind me of a fresh kiwi not a banana that will be rotten in 2 days...

I know this isn't the same strain... but take a peek at this...

she's past the point to start a 2 week flush... but do you see how it doesn't look like a fresh kiwi anymore...?

Doesn't it look "done"??;-)

you are looking for something in between...

have you looked at your trichs?

 

FoxCompany426

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I took a look at the trichs earlier today. There's a few amber ones poppin' up here and there, but not much. Mostly just clear and a few cloudy.

I wanna harvest when they're about half amber half cloudy, so I can get the all around effect.
 

GypsyBush

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Hey, also, take a look at this feeding schedule I have been following.

I'm using the aggressive bloom right now. When should I switch to ripen.

Maybe I should go with that thursday?


Feeding Schedule
I couldn't see it for some reason...

But regardless, I wouldn't know anything about schedules anyways...

I use one bloom nute... one veg nute... and h2o2...

no additives.. no schedules... just 1400 ppm in flower and 1000 ppm in veg..

1 ml of h2o2 per liter of water...

ph 5.8...

that's my schedule... veg my moms, flower my clones, same thing always...

sorry I couldn't help...

but we'll keep an eye on her...

there's always the emergency flush method if you figure you're late...

MBlaze uses that method to flush his 2 pound trees in 3 days...
 

FoxCompany426

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I couldn't see it for some reason...

But regardless, I wouldn't know anything about schedules anyways...

I use one bloom nute... one veg nute... and h2o2...

no additives.. no schedules... just 1400 ppm in flower and 1000 ppm in veg..

1 ml of h2o2 per liter of water...

ph 5.8...

that's my schedule... veg my moms, flower my clones, same thing always...

sorry I couldn't help...

but we'll keep an eye on her...

there's always the emergency flush method if you figure you're late...

MBlaze uses that method to flush his 2 pound trees in 3 days...
Where is some info on this "emergency flush method?"
 

GypsyBush

Well-Known Member
I took a look at the trichs earlier today. There's a few amber ones poppin' up here and there, but not much. Mostly just clear and a few cloudy.

I wanna harvest when they're about half amber half cloudy, so I can get the all around effect.
me personally, I would start flushing when I see NO clear trichs...

but that's just me and I don't like to flush... I do not over nute... and curing takes care of any taste issues for me...

I like to feed to the end cause I like'em to get fat till the end...

never made sense to me to stress and starve a plant when we want her to perform her best.. the exact 2 weeks where the most weight is gained...

but I am not trying to convince of anything... I am just saying how I think...
 

FoxCompany426

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me personally, I would start flushing when I see NO clear trichs...

but that's just me and I don't like to flush... I do not over nute... and curing takes care of any taste issues for me...

I like to feed to the end cause I like'em to get fat till the end...

never made sense to me to stress and starve a plant when we want her to perform her best.. the exact 2 weeks where the most weight is gained...

but I am not trying to convince of anything... I am just saying how I think...
So you don't have any problems with the taste being bad when not flushing?

Also, you should try an experiment grow with the General Hydroponics line of nutes. Just to give it a go. It's only 40 bucks for the whole 3 part system. Lasts about 5 to 10 grows with 3 plants.

Honestly, in my opinion, I think they are quite amazing. Easy as hell to use and fine tune.
 

Katatawnic

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If I was building a small personal cab for my AG today, I would use 250 HPS

Like this one... adding the cooltube... fit in any cab (heat wise)

http://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=54182

or even build one up like this...

http://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=45719
Thanks Gypsy! :hug: I'm stuck with CFL's for now, but in the next couple of months I'm just gonna bite the bullet (and break the bank LOL) and get an HPS setup & inline fans for intake/exhaust. I was going to wait till we buy a house, but that could be a year from now. Just DO IT, right? :mrgreen:

Oh, and HTG is whose 150w HID I saw on eBay for $80 (w/free shipping). Just didn't remember which company was selling it. :lol:

I'm entering into unknown territory now, since my last grow never made it past the balls, haha!


I have no idea exactly what to look for when it comes time to flush, so I'm relying on you guys to help me out.
Same here, my friend! :lol: When I read your post in my email notification, my immediate thought was, "No, Fox! Too soon!" I'm glad Gypsy got to you before I did, cause he's been in this territory daily for a while so he knows his shit a lot more than I do. :blsmoke: Just wait till we buy a house though.... I'll be growing trees like Gypsy's working on now! :hump:
 

GypsyBush

Well-Known Member
Where is some info on this "emergency flush method?"
Oh boy... I'll have to look...

but Mblaze basically chops the tree and sticks the stem (trunk) in a bubbler with fresh water...

like was going to clone it or something...

it bypasses the roots and the water goes straight to the stem...

Kinda like a rose in a flower vase...

He does for 3 days...

I'll look.. but try searching too...
 

FoxCompany426

Well-Known Member


Just wait till we buy a house though.... I'll be growing trees like Gypsy's working on now! :hump:
Hahaha, I know what you mean. When I get my house, which will be happening between today and 4 months from now, I will have a perpetual grow setup.

Harvesting, every 3 weeks, around a half-pound.

There is no one around here that puts out high quality bud, and I have a huge market to work with.

It's all gonna be a strict setup, small, not greedy. No encounters with the clients, just my best friend for the past 10 years.

This all started out when my buddy brought back some dank from Memphis. I smoked it and fell in love. From then on, I was like, "I am going to grow this shit, and we will all have some dank shit to be smoking all the time." Now I realize, I can do this and make a little extra cash to fix the house up with. Plus, it gives me some productive work to do when I'm bored, haha. I love plants... and video games... and airplanes.... hahaha!
 

GypsyBush

Well-Known Member
So you don't have any problems with the taste being bad when not flushing?
I don't and neither does anyone that smokes my herb...

I cure... 4 weeks is my preference...

I honestly believe that flushing is a soil thing...

I believe that flushing removes the salt build ups that can become toxic... so you flush with clean water...

In hydro, I flush all my shit with fresh water when I do my res changes every 2 weeks... so no salt build up to get rid of at the end...

I also do not over-fert... so the plant pretty much uses what I give her... there are no excesses to get rid of.. per se...

Also, you should try an experiment grow with the General Hydroponics line of nutes. Just to give it a go. It's only 40 bucks for the whole 3 part system. Lasts about 5 to 10 grows with 3 plants.
Sorry Bro...

I started growing with this nute...

I changed it to see what the fuss was all about... tried a bunch...

6 months later I am REALLY HAPPY to be back to square one...

1 nute and h2o2...

Would you agree that my buds look acceptable?

Honestly, in my opinion, I think they are quite amazing. Easy as hell to use and fine tune.
I add 1 nute.. 1400 ppm... everyday.. all the time...

can't be much easier than that..:lol:

as for amazing...

does this look ok to you

 

FoxCompany426

Well-Known Member
Oh boy... I'll have to look...

but Mblaze basically chops the tree and sticks the stem (trunk) in a bubbler with fresh water...

like was going to clone it or something...

it bypasses the roots and the water goes straight to the stem...

Kinda like a rose in a flower vase...

He does for 3 days...

I'll look.. but try searching too...
That's crazy, but as long as the smoke isn't going to be harsh, I'm not too worried about flushing.
 

FoxCompany426

Well-Known Member
I don't and neither does anyone that smokes my herb...

I cure... 4 weeks is my preference...

I honestly believe that flushing is a soil thing...

I believe that flushing removes the salt build ups that can become toxic... so you flush with clean water...

In hydro, I flush all my shit with fresh water when I do my res changes every 2 weeks... so no salt build up to get rid of at the end...

I also do not over-fert... so the plant pretty much uses what I give her... there are no excesses to get rid of.. per se...

Sorry Bro...

I started growing with this nute...

I changed it to see what the fuss was all about... tried a bunch...

6 months later I am REALLY HAPPY to be back to square one...

1 nute and h2o2...

Would you agree that my buds look acceptable?

I add 1 nute.. 1400 ppm... everyday.. all the time...

can't be much easier than that..:lol:

as for amazing...

does this look ok to you
Well, I'm planning on curing for only 2 weeks. That might change next time, depending on the finished product. Maybe flushing for a week before hand would be a good idea, I don't know. I guess we'll figure it out when we get there.

I've seen a couple of grows that weren't flushed, and they said they didn't have any problems with taste.

About the nutes, just wanted to throw it out there, just for grins.

And, that bud looks quite tasty. I wouldn't mind takin a puff or two, or three, or..... ok..... anyway, very nice!!!:mrgreen:

ok I'mgetting lost... :lol:we'r moving too fast...

let me catch up..:lol:


brb...
*tap tap tap tap... I'm waiting.... hahaha jk
 

GypsyBush

Well-Known Member


Thanks Gypsy! :hug: I'm stuck with CFL's for now, but in the next couple of months I'm just gonna bite the bullet (and break the bank LOL) and get an HPS setup & inline fans for intake/exhaust. I was going to wait till we buy a house, but that could be a year from now. Just DO IT, right? :mrgreen:

Oh, and HTG is whose 150w HID I saw on eBay for $80 (w/free shipping). Just didn't remember which company was selling it. :lol:



Same here, my friend! :lol: When I read your post in my email notification, my immediate thought was, "No, Fox! Too soon!" I'm glad Gypsy got to you before I did, cause he's been in this territory daily for a while so he knows his shit a lot more than I do. :blsmoke: Just wait till we buy a house though.... I'll be growing trees like Gypsy's working on now! :hump:
Hahaha, I know what you mean. When I get my house, which will be happening between today and 4 months from now, I will have a perpetual grow setup.

Harvesting, every 3 weeks, around a half-pound.

There is no one around here that puts out high quality bud, and I have a huge market to work with.

It's all gonna be a strict setup, small, not greedy. No encounters with the clients, just my best friend for the past 10 years.

This all started out when my buddy brought back some dank from Memphis. I smoked it and fell in love. From then on, I was like, "I am going to grow this shit, and we will all have some dank shit to be smoking all the time." Now I realize, I can do this and make a little extra cash to fix the house up with. Plus, it gives me some productive work to do when I'm bored, haha. I love plants... and video games... and airplanes.... hahaha!

Stealth cabs are the shit! and they don;t HAVE to be stealth, but it makes them even cooler...

I do a lot of searching on RIU and google and I have seen asome AMAZING results from well planned cabs...

a 250 hps is capable of producing 1 gram per watt under ideal conditions...

That's a half pound... if you do it right...

a 150 is a little weak for 1g/w...



That's crazy, but as long as the smoke isn't going to be harsh, I'm not too worried about flushing.
Bro... anyone that tries telling you that inhaling smoke is not harsh is full of shit....

SMOKE IS HARSH...

it's smoke... it makes you cough..:lol:

but I do agree that there is shit that burns your throat more than others...

I believe a cure is sufficient... if all went well in the grow...

I am not dissing a flush, it is a useful tool...

I just don't subscribe to starving my plant when I want her get fat.. make no sense to me to cause deficiencies at this critical stage...

But Bro...

That's just me...

I'm crazy... I live in bum fuck Egypt, I mean Alaska..

don't listen to me... do your own test...

make a little bubler DIY thing real quick and flush some and not others...

your own test is the best advice I can give you...

but I do agree that the majority of people flush...


...



have you ever noticed on an airliner that they always shut the cabin lights off on take off and landing?

you know why?

it's left over from the early days, when there was no door separating the cockpit from the cabin... and the glare would diminish the pilot's ability to see outside the aircraft...

yet... every take off and landing today is still done with the light off...

things that make you go hummmmm...:lol:

I say flushing has it's place in hydro, but the whole water only for two weeks...

I have a feeling that is from the soil days ... but we still do it... cause .... I dunno i's always ben that way..:lol:


I am soooo full of shit...

Dude,, do your own test... and it will end the story...:lol:
 

GypsyBush

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Well, I'm planning on curing for only 2 weeks. That might change next time, depending on the finished product. Maybe flushing for a week before hand would be a good idea, I don't know. I guess we'll figure it out when we get there.

I've seen a couple of grows that weren't flushed, and they said they didn't have any problems with taste.

About the nutes, just wanted to throw it out there, just for grins.

And, that bud looks quite tasty. I wouldn't mind takin a puff or two, or three, or..... ok..... anyway, very nice!!!:mrgreen:

*tap tap tap tap... I'm waiting.... hahaha jk
I hear you bro...

Experiment with it... try it out...

...

on the nutes.. I appreciate it.. but I had something that worked, and I decided to change..

4 different nutes and 4 different nightmares later I am back to simple and efficient...

but thanks! I have heard excellent things about them...


...


I really wish we could legally mail each other buds...

There are so many buds I see here that I'd like to taste...:lol::eyesmoke:

but .. we know how that goes...:cry:
 

Katatawnic

Well-Known Member
It's all gonna be a strict setup, small, not greedy. No encounters with the clients, just my best friend for the past 10 years.

Now I realize, I can do this and make a little extra cash to fix the house up with. Plus, it gives me some productive work to do when I'm bored, haha. I love plants... and video games... and airplanes.... hahaha!
Same here, except I'm not into video games. :mrgreen: Really though, I've been talking with a few local dispensaries, and they're looking for more growers. Big or small. I'll have to claim taxes for it, but not a problem.... T and I want to make it legal, and we need the income in order for me to be able to get off of disability, because of health insurance costs. I'm an expensive patient, and those companies charge for it. :roll: T asked me about it again yesterday, and I told him I've gotta get through my first harvest before I can take the next step. :lol: He's gonna be home in a month or two - leaving Iraq in a few days! :clap: He said when he gets home he'll get me more stuffesses I'll need to be able to grow enough for myself and still be able to sell a bit on the side to a dispensary. BUT, there won't be "great" yield until we can buy a house and have a much better setup going. One step at a time!

as for amazing...

does this look ok to you

[/QUOTE]

Eh.... it's OK. :mrgreen: :lol: :blsmoke: ;)

[quote="FoxCompany426, post: 2728302"]That's crazy, but as long as the smoke isn't going to be harsh, I'm not too worried about flushing.[/QUOTE]

With all I've been reading RE: to flush or not to flush w/hydro and not a lot of nutes, I came to the same conclusion. ;) I'm planning on water curing about half of my harvest, as I'll be using the bulk of it for cooking anyway. For cooking, it's better not to have all that flavor and smell anyway. I was planning on dry curing some of it longer, about four weeks like Gypsy does. But with water curing a lot of it, that'll be faster anyhow. I'll get to test that, and then test the dry cured later and say, "Mmmmmmm...." :weed:

[quote="GypsyBush, post: 2728299"]ok I'mgetting lost... :lol:we'r moving too fast...[/QUOTE]

You guys are too fast for me today! :lol: I battled pythium to the death today (one can hope anyway! lol), and I'm beat.... can't keep up or think or anything!

Oh Gypsy, I didn't clarify. I'm going to get a 250w HPS as soon as I can financially (one to three months). I didn't mean the 150w. I was just commenting on the one I saw on eBay being the first link you gave me.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
 

FoxCompany426

Well-Known Member
What I'm planning on doing is having three separate rooms in my grow room. One for Mothers and clones, one for flowering and one for experiments.

I'm gonna build up some walls with 2x4s and some plywood sheets, then line them with panda film. I'll have HID in all rooms, interconnected through vent tubing with my 434 CFM centrifugal fan and charcoal filter into the attic. I'll also have some oscillating fans in the rooms.

I'm planning on getting these 400w kits that come with adjustable hangers, vented reflectors, digital ballast and both MH and HPS bulbs. I plan on getting cool tubes later.

The cool thing will be when it gets legalized here. I'll have a job lined up, hehe. Figured, I have a pretty decent job right now, I'll have my own house, I already enjoy doing this underground and it'll be added income.

....Hehehe....


Whew, I just got stoned about 30 minutes ago, so sorry for the rambling.

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I didn't mean it not being harsh, just smoother.

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I'll slow down, I got excited.:mrgreen:
 

FoxCompany426

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Hey Gypsy, when you flush in between res changes, how long?

Also, I checked the breeder site, and they changed the flowering time from 8 weeks to 9/11 weeks.
 
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