250w HPS Club And Help Guide

rabidcow

Active Member
hi all! subscribed. placing an order for a 250w HPS after the weekend. so happy to have found thi thread! it could help me in my final choice of what light to buy and from where.
i ofcoure do not want to over spend, but also dont want a piece of chit. i am going to build a DIY cool tube like in this link http://www.gardenscure.com/420/light...struction.html it is basicly a glass Bake-a-Round pyrex tube with the light inside it. anybody running this? if so what 250w hps did you buy to run this way?
my grow space is small, 30"x16"x 52".
here is the light and ballast i was looking at http://www.insidesun.com/1f59614e9a5...b573ad87d.item its cheap, i know but is it insufficiant? i see a bunch of bulbs 2 choose from is there a particular bulb i should be looking to get?
hope i didnt lay 2 many quetions at once. any suggestionss would be awesome

had to copy and repost this, have not purchased the light yet so still interested in any comments.
be good yall
 

Skryptz

Active Member
looks like a good deal, i dont see why not get it, from what ive read why not get the MH Conversion Bulb, Save Money When Buying Lights and You Have both needs for the plant in one bulb, at least from what ive read, i dont have 1,but if had the money would get one, space should work fine as long as u got some ventilation. i would get it, but i like savin money ;)
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
AB,

I like the one with the least leaves cut off. LOL! Cutting before harvest just freaks me. I ain't no stunt pilot! Get it, stunt, plants! Ah never mind! LOL!

Great news Mind. So glad to hear it! Peace!
 

Doobieus

Well-Known Member
Whats up clubbers? So I'm sitting home today not able to go to work yet cause of the surgery. I'm very close to harvest. I think they are ready today, exactly 7 weeks in flower like subcool said, but I'm not pressed for time so I'm gonna wait another week. My second generation 3ds have been vegging for those 7 weeks and are ready to move to flower anytime so I'll take some generation 3 clones today, let them root for a week in the clone chamber, then transplant them and move them to veg chamber. The same day I'll harvest generation 1 and move generation 2 to flower. That will put me harvesting in 1 week then again in 7-8 more weeks, so I should harvest close to the same time as you Doobs and Wretched. Here are some pics of gen 1 almost ready for harvest.
And we shall call ourselves the 3 Weedmigos lol.

Ok since I'm at home bored today I'm gonna show how I do the cloning process. I'll be taking clones from 3d generation 2. I have room for 8 plants in 1 gallon square pots in each chamber so I'll cut 12 clones just in case. First I get everything ready. I need 1 cup of fresh water, 12 peat pellets (which I go ahead and get soaking in water), my trusty Take-Root rooting hormone that I purchased from Wal-mart, 24 plastic cups, 12 popsicle sticks for labeling, some sharp little scissors, and some tape. So now I'm ready. I cut the clones from near the bottom of the plant, not always the bottom most branches but the ones that are 4-6" long and closest to the bottom. After cutting the clone on an angle close to the meristem I cut away all large fan leaves. Next I cut the bottom 1/8" off the cutting and immediately stick it in the cup of fresh water and swish it around to remove any air bubbles. Then I stick it in the take root about an inch deep. I tap the stem so any excess hormone falls off. Then I simply stick it in the soaked peat pellet and place it in a plastic cup. I label the popsicle stick with plant name and cloning date and later on with the dates I move it into veg and flower. I place another plastic cup on top and tape them together, thus creating a little individual humididome (well thats what I like to call it anyway lol). 7-10 days later these babies are rooted and ready for transplant into 1 gal square pots and moved to veg. Hope you clubbers enjoy.
Sounds like you've got things pretty sorted there Altered, great job.

I'm not well experienced with pruning. I didnt want to top 3d gen 2 since I did top gen 1, I want to see the difference. So this is what I did. I simply removed all the branches and fan leaves on the lower portion of the plants. I removed more of some than others just experimenting. I'm shooting for a SOG. So this is what I ended up with. Before and after pics and a pic of them in veg after pruning. I need some constructive criticism please!
The only pruning I do is when I palm, other than that I let the other leaves die off. However if you do have to prune, you're not supposed to prune more than 20%-30% or so at a time because of risk of stunting. Do not do any type of pruning during flowering, do all your pruning in Veg, after it's in bloom leave it, or it will possibly herm.

OK I'll keep an eye on them. It probably wouldn't hurt if they stopped growing for a couple days. They are getting quite close to the max height in veg chamber. Notice I trimmed them at three different levels? Which looks best to you?
As long as the palm is 4-6 inches above top soil, it'll look good to me lol.

Yeah!!!
No surgery for me :hump:
Sweet!! Glad to hear that Mind, bet you are too lol.

hi all! subscribed. placing an order for a 250w HPS after the weekend. so happy to have found thi thread! it could help me in my final choice of what light to buy and from where.
i ofcoure do not want to over spend, but also dont want a piece of chit. i am going to build a DIY cool tube like in this link http://www.gardenscure.com/420/light...struction.html it is basicly a glass Bake-a-Round pyrex tube with the light inside it. anybody running this? if so what 250w hps did you buy to run this way?
my grow space is small, 30"x16"x 52".
here is the light and ballast i was looking at http://www.insidesun.com/1f59614e9a5...b573ad87d.item its cheap, i know but is it insufficiant? i see a bunch of bulbs 2 choose from is there a particular bulb i should be looking to get?
hope i didnt lay 2 many quetions at once. any suggestionss would be awesome

had to copy and repost this, have not purchased the light yet so still interested in any comments.
be good yall
I cannot in good conscience recommend a DIY anything with lights especially a light with a mogul socket like a HPS, two words.... Fire Hazard.

Myself as well as others use HTGsupply, great prices for quality products, not to mention great customer service, they've always been full proof with me. Just remember with growing, you get what you put into it for the most part.
 

AlteredBeast

Well-Known Member
So a buddy from work dropped by yesterday. He knows I smoke but does not know I grow. We were standing in my front yard near the end of the house where my grow is. All of a sudden he says "I smell weed". I was like "Really?". Then I pulled my shirt up to my nose and sniffed and said "Yeah I just blazed one". So I played it off like the smell was coming from me but you and I know where it was really coming from. So this morning I went to Wal-mart and got what I needed to make a carbon filter, made it and attached it. So an hour later I checked the temp cause I knew some airflow had been blocked. 108 degrees!!!!!!!!!! So that aint gonna work. I need a material that will keep charcoal in but also not block too much airflow. Any suggestions? What I did for now is go ahead and take the ladies out of the flower chamber and put them in a large box, gonna keep them in there two or three days then harvest. This gives me about a month before the next batch starts smelling so I can figure out what I'm gonna do. Help please!


By the way, I intake air from inside the closet and the output goes up thru the ceiling and into the attic. Only its not really like an attic cause you cant get up there. So the air is just escaping out of random places and going outside.
 

Mindmelted

Well-Known Member
So a buddy from work dropped by yesterday. He knows I smoke but does not know I grow. We were standing in my front yard near the end of the house where my grow is. All of a sudden he says "I smell weed". I was like "Really?". Then I pulled my shirt up to my nose and sniffed and said "Yeah I just blazed one". So I played it off like the smell was coming from me but you and I know where it was really coming from. So this morning I went to Wal-mart and got what I needed to make a carbon filter, made it and attached it. So an hour later I checked the temp cause I knew some airflow had been blocked. 108 degrees!!!!!!!!!! So that aint gonna work. I need a material that will keep charcoal in but also not block too much airflow. Any suggestions? What I did for now is go ahead and take the ladies out of the flower chamber and put them in a large box, gonna keep them in there two or three days then harvest. This gives me about a month before the next batch starts smelling so I can figure out what I'm gonna do. Help please!
What size fan are you using AB:peace:
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
Quick fix is Pinesol Blue in a bucket of water with a fan blowing on it. Use that when service guys come over. Others will have to help with a more permanent solution.
 

Mindmelted

Well-Known Member
That really should do it.I was using a 197 cfm fan and my tent temps where only getting 83 on the high side.
Try foothill filters on ebay.Got my filter from them for around $50 shipped.
 

AlteredBeast

Well-Known Member
That really should do it.I was using a 197 cfm fan and my tent temps where only getting 83 on the high side.
Try foothill filters on ebay.Got my filter from them for around $50 shipped.
I think the material I was using was the problem. I'm gonna try some pantyhose.
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
I look terrible in pantyhose! LOL! However, pantyhose has worked in the past for others. Good luck. This is just a blip on a great grow.
 
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