75% Argon 25% CO2!

Milton187

Milton187

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I traded my co2 tank for another and after using it for a week discovered it's 75 % Argon!

Where can I purchase 100% co2?


Will the Argon hurt my plants?

Thanks,

Uncle Milt
 
The Warlord

The Warlord

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Take it back where you got it. I assume it was a welding supply shop. I don't think any other industry would use that mix. Tell them they gave you the wrong bottle. They will have the right stuff on hand.
 
simpsonsampson420

simpsonsampson420

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you can get pure co2 tanks from a brewery supply store usually.. they usually have them for taps.. i get mine at a bike customizing shop in my area.. just look in your phone book..

you'll definatly want to return the tank you have tho..

and for whoever asked... plants breath in co2 like we breath in oxygen.. and they dispell oxygen as we do co2.. anyways... you can enrich your air with co2 which helps your plants grow bigger faster... also.. the warmer the air the less co2 it holds.. so if you have a warmer grow room it can really benefit your plants having the co2 added... its less important if you have a steady supply of fresh outdoor air, since fresh air contains a limitless suppply of co2.. but if your grow room is cut off from the outside and doesnt get fresh air, co2 can be hugely hugely beneficial..
 
mr.Tank

mr.Tank

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I am sorry for resurrecting this (just in case it upsets someone).

I was wondering if anyone had any factual information on the subject of using Mixed CO2/Argon (15%/75%) for your grow room?

I have 6 Full 50#-Sized Mixed Argon/CO2 Tanks, and was wondering whether or not I could use them?

I understand it would be a waste of money because Argon tends to be pricey, but I was given these tanks. Yes they are all up-to-date. Yes, I know I could just swap them out. But the closest place to swap or refill them is far... And I currently cannot strap them to my Harley and make the drive. I figured I would use them if I could and then later on swap them out when I figured out transportation and money.

If Argon had no negative impact on the plants or environment, I know I would have to increase the overall gas supplement (in comparison to using a CO2-Only tank) due to the low 25% CO2 content.

If y'all have any light to shed in this topic, please do :-)


Regards,

Tank
 
Twizzlor

Twizzlor

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Lol I'm a welder and I find this funny as hell argon is a heavy inert gas it lays below oxygen and co2 it's actually very dangerous in enclosed areas as it fills your lungs from the bottom up slowly suffocating you. That's what it does to humans I'm assuming it would do similar to plants as well by locking out all the other atmospheric gases required to thrive.
 
mr.Tank

mr.Tank

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Twizzlor said:
Lol I'm a welder and I find this funny as hell argon is a heavy inert gas it lays below oxygen and co2 it's actually very dangerous in enclosed areas as it fills your lungs from the bottom up slowly suffocating you. That's what it does to humans I'm assuming it would do similar to plants as well by locking out all the other atmospheric gases required to thrive.
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Than you for the help. I had looked around and read another post about someone not having issues with a mix and I wanted to make sure I got a second and third opinion just to be safe. I don't know the exact chemsitry and couldn't find any definite answers (its a really weird situation and question).

I'm glad you were able to steer me in the right direction.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Regards,


-Tank
 
mr.Tank

mr.Tank

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hotrodharley said:
Dude - mixed argon/CO2 is for welding.Argon is not a gas utilized by plants to any benefit. Anyway, this thread died in 2009 and somebody resurrected it.See any uses above? Sell them to a welder.

Read here about argon:

http://www.lenntech.com/periodic/elements/ar.htm
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Thank you. And I did. Because of my limited knowledge of its chemistry and limited information I could understand, I couldn't understand.

Even in articles like the one you posted, things like this (from the bottom of that page):

Environment Effects of Argon:

No adverse environmental consequences are expected. Argon gas occurs naturally in the environment. The gas will dissipate rapidly in well ventilated areas.

The effects of argon on plants or animals is not currently known. It is not expected to harm aquatic life.
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...can be confusing for people who don't completely understand the chemicals/chemistry/etc. (like me) as well as others.

Thanks for confirming things for me and taking the time to respond.

I'm glad I asked before doing something stupid (like guessing).

Asking questions about things I'm not 110% sure about, and getting the right answers is more than worth the embarrassment Brother.

Regards,


-Tank
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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mr.Tank said:
Thank you. And I did. Because of my limited knowledge of its chemistry and limited information I could understand, I couldn't understand.

Even in articles like the one you posted, things like this (from the bottom of that page):



...can be confusing for people who don't completely understand the chemicals/chemistry/etc. (like me) as well as others.

Thanks for confirming things for me and taking the time to respond.

I'm glad I asked before doing something stupid (like guessing).

Asking questions about things I'm not 110% sure about, and getting the right answers is more than worth the embarrassment Brother.

Regards,


-Tank
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You are a wise man. You likely do well in your endeavors. Good luck.
 
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