Lets talk AeroCloners

LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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SpruceZeus said:
Has anyone compared using an aerocloner with airstone vs. without airstone?
I've never used one and was wondering if it is worth my trouble?
I've personally found that using an airstone in my Ebb and flow reservoir promotes more algae growth and thats about it. Mind you if i'm using H2o2 is supplimenting air just redundant?
I'm really up in the air about airstones.... also very very very high.
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i tend to agree


the basic principle of aero doesnt need an air pump as the pump itself aerates the water as its sucked through the water every so mins
 
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YaK

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LoganSmith said:
Thanks Yak,
I think I will put a air stone in and see how this helps. How long before you got roots?
If the water gets to warm, in the higher 70s I know that I can use a 1l container with ice to drop the temps but that only works for so long, any other suggestions? Do you think the clonex makes the difference??? Thats the only thing I don't have.
I will keep you updated.
Thx
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roots popping greatly depends on the strain. my quickest rooting strain (diablo) roots in 5-7 days and the longest (banana kush) takes about 13-17 days.

I do think Clonex makes a difference, but I also know it's not totally necessary. I think it speeds things up a tad. It's expensive, so I only put maybe 1/4 of what they recommend on the bottle. I am cheap.

I agree with Greyskull also, in that higher temperatures create lower oxygen levels, the air stones help... IMO.

One mistake I made in my previous post, is that I have the pump on for 15 seconds, and off for 30 MINUTES. I think this keeps the temps down because my pump doesnt run that often.

Everytime I lift the lid, everything is wet, so why does the pump need to run all of the time? plus, the air bubbles breaking the surface tension. EZcloner says to run the pumps all the time, but i have found that to be unnecessary.

How's your progress Logan?
 

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LoganSmith

LoganSmith

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YaK said:
roots popping greatly depends on the strain. my quickest rooting strain (diablo) roots in 5-7 days and the longest (banana kush) takes about 13-17 days.

I do think Clonex makes a difference, but I also know it's not totally necessary. I think it speeds things up a tad. It's expensive, so I only put maybe 1/4 of what they recommend on the bottle. I am cheap.

I agree with Greyskull also, in that higher temperatures create lower oxygen levels, the air stones help... IMO.

One mistake I made in my previous post, is that I have the pump on for 15 seconds, and off for 30 MINUTES. I think this keeps the temps down because my pump doesnt run that often.

Everytime I lift the lid, everything is wet, so why does the pump need to run all of the time? plus, the air bubbles breaking the surface tension. EZcloner says to run the pumps all the time, but i have found that to be unnecessary.

How's your progress Logan?
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Hey Yak,
I want to say thanks for keeping up with your help.
I didn't want to f things up in the cloner so I took 12 cutting last night and used double clear 9oz solo cups and made 12 single cloning domes. I will take pics and show you the cloner that I made and the new cuttings from last night.
 
anhedonia

anhedonia

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Your clones are eating themselves. Somone just told me this. I m not sure if a foliar of 1-0-0 couldnt be used to correct this. Or I could be just talking out my ass. Ive been drinking chocolate stout and smoking sweet god all night.
 
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YaK

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LoganSmith said:
Here are some pics of the cloner and nutes.
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that's a big pump... how many gallons does the reservoir hold when you top it off?... which should be right under the sprayers.

I have that same timer. you can really control a lot of the heat inside the res by setting the on time from 10 to 20 seconds, set the off time from 5 to 30 minutes. I let mine stay off for 30, but I have an airstone in my cloner. So maybe try 10 minutes.

try just tap water PH'd to 5.5 maybe a little bit of H2O2, keep it simple man, that cloner will work great.

What is the ppm of your tap? Relative Humidity in the room? Temps? Water temps?:peace:
 
LoganSmith

LoganSmith

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YaK said:
that's a big pump... how many gallons does the reservoir hold when you top it off?... which should be right under the sprayers.

I have that same timer. you can really control a lot of the heat inside the res by setting the on time from 10 to 20 seconds, set the off time from 5 to 30 minutes. I let mine stay off for 30, but I have an airstone in my cloner. So maybe try 10 minutes.

try just tap water PH'd to 5.5 maybe a little bit of H2O2, keep it simple man, that cloner will work great.

What is the ppm of your tap? Relative Humidity in the room? Temps? Water temps?:peace:
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I only put around 4 gallons or so which stands over the pump, the sprayers are really close to the top of the tote, right under the bottom of the 2" net pots. The tote is 18 gallons. The pump is I think like 365 gallons per/ , the time is 60 sec on and 5 mins off. no air stone. tap water phed to 5.8. tap water ppm 420 (really 420) I don't recall the Humidity. temps 70ish, water temp the same.
 
Santos L Halper

Santos L Halper

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I built an Aero-cloner from an 8 gallon bucket (it's in the journal in my sig). Costs about $75 with air pump/stones and water pump. I know someone who got 19 sites on one (I only have 12 sites). I put in 4 gallons of water and 1 tsp of Clonex, dip the clones in gel (even though it probably isn't needed), pH down until it is ~5.8 pH. Plug in the air and water pump and leave them on 24/7 for two weeks. Here is a pic of some clones on day 1 and day 14:



Here are some roots:



 
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1ostbo1z

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have ne one seen a slime or gel like thingy on the bottom of there clones cus today i went over to my friends house cus he said that his had rooted and when i went over to look it wasn't roots its some kind of slime/gel like. i touched it and it doesn't fall off its like its stuck on there. ne suggestions
 
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Mr.Freedom

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I am using an ez cloner for the first time. Its awesome. I will be transplanting to an aeroflo table with hydroton in net pots. My question is how long the roots should be before i transplant from the ez cloner to the aeroflo table. Thoughts?
 
trouble9039

trouble9039

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Mr.Freedom said:
I am using an ez cloner for the first time. Its awesome. I will be transplanting to an aeroflo table with hydroton in net pots. My question is how long the roots should be before i transplant from the ez cloner to the aeroflo table. Thoughts?
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I keep mine in the cloner for 2 weeks and then off to my tray's! At 2 weeks my roots are about 5" to 7"! In these pics wich are 2 diffrent cloners, and they are 5 day's old!
 

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anhedonia

anhedonia

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Could somone explain how I could make a smaller version of this for say 4-6 cuttings? I only have 16" of space from my floor to the light fixture so it would have to be small. I bought an 8 site daisy cloner and have tried several times to get it to work and not one clone will root, the pump sucks, the sprayer always stops and the entire thing is made of terrible cheap plastic parts. I understand getting a container, lid, drill holes, center the pump, fillwith water until the pump is submersed attach sprayer and it should spin in a circle misting the cuttings. Thats how the ghetto thing I bought works.

But now I need to get something that will root the cuttings for sure. What exactly does the airstone do? Should I have had one of those in the other one? I havnt read much on these aero units but I still dont get it. Could somone explain?
 
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