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GypsyBush

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Hey guys do these budz look crazy, like there's something wrong, looks like seeds but there isn't any seeds in those little sacks
I have seen this on some of my plants .. early on in the SOG...

I did by miss-using one of the nutes...

The BOOST juice was to be added in the last days before a res change..

Only to be present for a day or two...

I was using it all the time, and in excessive amounts...

My buds grew all nody like that.. and although I didn;t show the nute burn quite as bad... my leaves were very brittle, and I am sure another 50 or 100ppm would have been devastating...

I say flush it good and long with lots of fresh water... change your res several times...

and back off on the nutes a few hundred PPM...

Remeber what Al B. Fuct taught us...

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Mr. Ganja



* Shoot nutrient strength low rather than high. You will probably find that you get by just fine on half or less of the mfr's recommendations. You lose less yield from slight underfert than you do from nute burning.

* More is not always (in fact, usually not) better with growing plants. There's a bell curve to this- there's 'not enough,' 'just right' and 'dead.' The only exception is lighting, where there's no such thing as too much light, as long as you can maintain room air temps in the 24-26C range.

Man My heavy duty fruitie did that same shit... I flushed for a day and started about 75 to 100 PPM's less and used overdrive. Hope this help. GB may have some good imput here...
Yup sounds like good advice to me...:razz:

except i don;t know what overdrive is...

I only use one nute... and h2o2...

Without implying that it is a magik sauce... I will quote Al B. Fuct again... :lol::clap:


Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Mr. Ganja




* Avoid magic sauces. They're mostly water and rarely justify their cost. If there's no solid botanical evidence supporting the use of an additive, skip it. If the mfr doesn't tell you what's in a magic sauce (which is common), you can't establish the scientific evidence necessary to justify the use of any given magic sauce. If you do want to mess with these things, the only way to establish efficacy is to run comparison grows; that means (at least) two crops side by side under the same lighting in the same room. Most grow rooms' conditions are not totally and perfectly climate controlled year-round. They usually vary significantly from crop to crop. Comparisons based on serial crops can be coloured by variations in room conditions. Only side-by-side comparisons eliminate the variations in conditions and give you a clear indication of the merit of any additive. As a rule, find out what works for you and keep doing it the same way. Don't change anything without being strongly convinced that the change is helpful.
Hey GB just stoped by to say hey and see how things are going..
Started my tree grow today with a mother I had...Tied her down good got 1 1000 HPS trackin over top..I'll post some pics..
Semper Fi
Nice Bro!!!

I wanna see for sure...:clap:

Hey hemlock thankx for the help. i just started the ripen phase from general hydroponics feeding chart witch is about 30% less nutes. But what do you mean by used overdrive and shes in a 5 gal bubble bucket so should i give her just plain water for a day to flush
Flush for a day as you say, but change the res with fresh water often... every couple hours... 2x ... however many you can do... more is better...

flushing with clean fresh water will give better esults than flushing with "dirty water"

YEah I would flush with plain R/O water PH'd at5.8-5.9 for a day maybe a little H2O2 1 oz per 5 gallons of water.
I am not familiar with your nutes..

But I would caution against using h2o2 with any organic product...

I know you said a little... and I know a little won't stereilize the res... but that is a fine line to walk...

here's Al again...

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Mr. Ganja





* 'Organic' doesn't mean 'good' or even 'better.' In the case of reliable, repeatable, constant rotating harvest ops, inorganic nutes are superior as you can use H2O2 with them. Can't count the number of new growers who get sucked into organics and then have root rot problems they can't solve with 'organic' enzyme-based pathogen controls. Organic nutrients are composed of complex biomatters (e.g. bat guano, worm castings, etc) which the plants can't assimilate directly. You depend upon organic nutrients to break down into N, P & K in the rootzone (at not always well-known rates) before the plants can eat them. May as well use inorganic nutes which are already in that state and also have a solid idea of nutrient strength and bioavailability, as well as have the ability to use (regularly applied) H2O2, which is a sure-fire, every single time solution to root probs.

The pics you have up show your flowering? How far along into 12/12 are u?

See the white hair on the left side of the pic,,, thats what we need everywhere
Yup we need to see them buds fatten up...

Although I must say that the stress has already hurt your yields... sorry...

I'd like to figure out what cause EDXACTLY it so you can avoid it in the future.. so we can all avoid it...:razz:
 

SpruceZeus

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Nice having Al poke his head in every now and then, isn't it?

He seriously has a way of articulating things where it is explained to you like you're a child, but without leaving you feeling patronized in the slightest.

As you say, we are lucky to be standing on the shoulders of giants.
 

bigjesse1922

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Howdy.

So I have spent the better part of 4 hours making soil and transplanting my 5 clones into big ass six gallon containers!

They were using between 400-600 ml every 2-3 days before.

Any ideas on how much I should give them now? I know you don't do soil...but I thought maybe you could impart some logic to help me arrive at the answer...? :peace:
 

GypsyBush

Well-Known Member
its been 9 1/2 weeks hemlock
Just give them a good flush .. and if have other plants to replace these, might as well chop'em... they are not gonna get much better if they are that far in...

Sorry...

Howdy.

So I have spent the better part of 4 hours making soil and transplanting my 5 clones into big ass six gallon containers!

They were using between 400-600 ml every 2-3 days before.

Any ideas on how much I should give them now? I know you don't do soil...but I thought maybe you could impart some logic to help me arrive at the answer...? :peace:
How do you guys figure the watering thing?

With a finger test?

I have no idea bro...

I guess start testing with plain water... but I .. uh .. I dunno...:lol:

I think you're a mad fucking scientist G!!!!!!

Have you ever tried this grafting before? Got a thread where it is well explained?

I'm very intrigued, where do the roots go?
I ditched the grafting... for now.. it would take too long...

I just slapped 2 plants in the same pot...:lol:

A stretchy sativa around a bushy indica...

and then we have... Satindica...:razz:


 

o= High= o

Well-Known Member
I have seen this on some of my plants .. early on in the SOG...

I did by miss-using one of the nutes...

The BOOST juice was to be added in the last days before a res change..

Only to be present for a day or two...

I was using it all the time, and in excessive amounts...

My buds grew all nody like that.. and although I didn;t show the nute burn quite as bad... my leaves were very brittle, and I am sure another 50 or 100ppm would have been devastating...

I say flush it good and long with lots of fresh water... change your res several times...

and back off on the nutes a few hundred PPM...

Remeber what Al B. Fuct taught us...






Yup sounds like good advice to me...:razz:

except i don;t know what overdrive is...

I only use one nute... and h2o2...

Without implying that it is a magik sauce... I will quote Al B. Fuct again... :lol::clap:






Nice Bro!!!

I wanna see for sure...:clap:



Flush for a day as you say, but change the res with fresh water often... every couple hours... 2x ... however many you can do... more is better...

flushing with clean fresh water will give better esults than flushing with "dirty water"



I am not familiar with your nutes..

But I would caution against using h2o2 with any organic product...

I know you said a little... and I know a little won't stereilize the res... but that is a fine line to walk...

here's Al again...






Yup we need to see them buds fatten up...

Although I must say that the stress has already hurt your yields... sorry...

I'd like to figure out what cause EDXACTLY it so you can avoid it in the future.. so we can all avoid it...:razz:


You Guys Are GREAT thankx so much you said your leaves are brittle well mine are to so im going to do exactly as you say and start reading from Al B Fuct
 

o= High= o

Well-Known Member
Just give them a good flush .. and if have other plants to replace these, might as well chop'em... they are not gonna get much better if they are that far in...

Sorry...


ok i do have "backup" even if the budz wont tighten up will the trich's get more milky or even start to get the amber color cuz they are about maybe 60% milky and not as tall like sticking straight up like some of the other ones they kind of droop
 

purpdaddy

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ALL THAT=BUDS..!!!Man thats a fuccload of buds...Dont get me wrong i would love to have that ,many but down here they just too damn strict,,did ever tell you bout when i got arrested for a stem and a seed??Yea NO BUD..they found it on my floorboard and booked my ass.it was so small i couldve blown real hard on the table and it would have flown across the room and they would have never found it..
 

purpdaddy

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But what i mean is thats awesom having ALL THAT under one 600 and having all them beauties would be in my DREAMS!:mrgreen:
 
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