auto-flower question

[Spasticsmoke]

so i am going to grab some autoflowering seeds from attitude.. i was wondering since they are autoflowering is there any need for the 12/12 or can i run straight 24 hr light to it... i know this can be done with regular plants in vegg, but would it make since to do it the whole life of the autoflower... will it help anything??

im only wondering because im going to need more fan power with a 400HPS throwing off heat ALL day.

 

[vh13]

You can do straight 24 hours of light, but I think many breeders suggest 20/4.

 

[CrackerJax]

You can run it straight. They ignore the cycle, but because of their short growing time, will get that much larger with more light.

 

[lowryder666]

18/6 is a good balance and is certainly what is recommended for Lowryders.

Roots grow more at night so you need to give them their time too - it's not all about what's going on above the surface. Biggers roots mean healthier plant.

Also water at the start of the light cycle so when it comes to plant beddy byes the soil is not so wet as to hinder the root growth during night.

 

[nebula69hydro]

18/6 is a good balance and is certainly what is recommended for Lowryders.

Roots grow more at night so you need to give them their time too - it's not all about what's going on above the surface. Biggers roots mean healthier plant.

Also water at the start of the light cycle so when it comes to plant beddy byes the soil is not so wet as to hinder the root growth during night.

i grow my dwarf ganja auto 18/6 but then if their in room with others flowering they may go to 12/12 thats the beauty of them.

 

[RichED]

LOWryder what els U know bout dem likle tings mon

 

[lowryder666]

LOWryder what els U know bout dem likle tings mon

Er. Don't start on the nutes until 2 1/2 - 3 weeks if growing in potting soil. There's enough in them to last that long. Nute every 2-3 waterings - don't go crazy.

Anyway this is what I've done so far and she's lookin good till now. I also check my ph on runoff and nute mixing to keep it in the golden zone 6.5-6.8.

 

[CrackerJax]

It's a quick 2 months and they don't need a lot of roots....they are tiny. Just stajke it up if necessary. More light will mean more bud. It's only 8 weeks.

 

[RichED]

K also i heard they like to be started in pot to stay in dont like transplant at all once is max

like to start in deep pot has long tap root likes 2 to 2 1/2 gal pot

like lots of light likes root stimulator

flowers in 3 weeks male show sex 17 days female up to 21 days

ligt min 18/6 pref for lowlife 20/4 never 12/12 yield will suffer

i normally start out at about 1/5 strenth at end week 2 go up to 1/2 strenth by weeks 1/2 strenth is max for little fellas

feed efery other i normally flush week 8 just molasses and water til trichs say thats all folks

lots of luck to you all

walk in the light
live a blessed life enjoy the ridethats all there is

 

[Spasticsmoke]

thanks for all your help and respsonse i appreciate it, seeds are on the way from attitude. hope it all work out ive never done auto flower, im guessin its a little easier becuase you don't need to keep the plants alive the whole summer hahah

 

[Spasticsmoke]

SOOO guys i have a nother question about autoflower... i just don't want to clutter up the RIU threads so im going to try to keep it in this one, hopefully someone see it!

I bought Feminized Autoflowering seeds, now i know that this means bassicly there is no way to get more seeds from the plant. as i don't have any good quality male pollen, and i wouldn't want to mess up the genetics either way.

can you take clones from an autoflowering plant, or will these clones just budd once the mother plant dose as they dont go on the photoperiod ??

i'm trying to maximize my yeild without buying a million seeds, i have room for more plants, but i don't know if cloning will be effective, especially with autoflower, as i can't keep it in vegg to grow the clones.. i don't want to take cuttings only to have those cuttings not grow at all and budd at the size i cut them off it would be pointless.

like i said im going to try to keep this question in this thread

Thanks guys!!

 

[CrackerJax]

You can physically clone but it does no good...it won't veg or reset, it just keeps finishing.

 

[Spasticsmoke]

You can physically clone but it does no good...it won't veg or reset, it just keeps finishing.

so bassicly it wont get any bigger than if it was on the mother plant to start with, infact it will prob be smaller becuase of the time it takes to root??

could i take pollen from an unknown indica and pollinate one nugg... any idea if it would still be auto-flowering... or even good bud, the pollen would be from a bagseed grow....

 

[lowryder666]

The reason why it sucks donkey's balls to clone an autoflower is as follows:

The autoflower behaves according to age... so... when you take a clone from the mother the clone is the same age as the mother and has the same amount of lifetime left as the mother (it doesn't start again from day 1). You'll get less yield from both 'cos now you have two stressed plants. It just doesn't have a veg state in which it can be grown indefinitely before flowering like your standard non-autoflower variety.

 

[Spasticsmoke]

The reason why it sucks donkey's balls to clone an autoflower is as follows:

The autoflower behaves according to age... so... when you take a clone from the mother the clone is the same age as the mother and has the same amount of lifetime left as the mother (it doesn't start again from day 1). You'll get less yield from both 'cos now you have two stressed plants. It just doesn't have a veg state in which it can be grown indefinitely before flowering like your standard non-autoflower variety.

thats what i was thinking, i just needed someone to say the words for me... thanks for your help man....

any ideas about the pollenating of an auto-flower... will the traight of auto-flowering be picked up in the seeds, or is that more advanced breeding better left up to the seed banks...

i just spent all this money on seeds, and realized i tottaly fucked myself from getting any seeds out of the plants beeing feminized... and auto-flowering.

i guess thats my exspensive learning curve.

 

[lowryder666]

Well as far as buying feminised seeds goes, you're probably paying about £40 for 5. Grown right you could expect 30-45g from each seed. Hardly a waste compared to street prices for the raw shit (not that you get LR2 on the street anyway!)

If you were interested in breeding you could just get the 10seed pack of unknown sex for about the same price and just get one or two of the girls preggers from one or more males. You can harvest the seeds and still smoke the afterbirth and get some sort of stone (not as good as the sensi I would imagine. Of course the seeds you're left with are 50/50 male/female.

I have limited space so I don't wanna grow multiples to sex and it would be a pain to do it sequentially even with the 2 month lifespan

 

[Spasticsmoke]

no its not a waste as far as the bud goes.... but i wanna get some seeds out of it, know what i mean, instead of having to buy them... im thinking im just going to pollenate a nug with some bagseed and see what i get as far as seeds, atleast it will be better then nothing right?

 

[CrackerJax]

Yes, with auto's, you don't want to buy feminised seeds...it's too expensive for the return. Get reg's and pollinate a nice fem to keep it going.

I think the auto is a wonderful innovation that can quickly fill a grow gap and/or a discreet grow anywhere.

You could pollinate it with a non auto, but I think the inherited regular genes for light cycle would win out. You'd lose the auto quality in other words.

 

[Spasticsmoke]

well thats not bad then i would rather some good gentics that arn't auto-flower than to get no seeds from them at all.

 

[Spasticsmoke]

well thats not bad then, i wasn't really concirned about the auto trait... raither the genetic of the auto flowering i got.. ak47 non-auto is still better than having no seeds at all... or even growing bagseed..

i throw you some rep crackerjax for your help but...

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CrackerJax again.

YOUR BEEING TO HELPFUL TO ME hahahah Peace.