Not a total noob, but having an emergency.

[Hidden Agenda]

I am trying to search for this as we speak.

I am usually a hydro grower, but have decided to try my hands at a soil grow


My plant looks like crap. It's a dutch passion fem clone from my friend's mother plant. I need to flush the soil but don't know the exact procedure. I've never done a soil grow and have mostly only done aero.


Can someone give me a link or just explain what to do? The plant is in a two gallon pot. What pH should i use for flushing? I just watered yesterday, so the soil is already saturated.

This plant isn't looking well. It looks like maglockout and ph imbalance..

 

[KaleoXxX]

id wait a day to flush so u dont over water

do you have a picture?

its good to see you do your own research

 

[Hidden Agenda]

I hate coming on here with noob questions that can be solved with simple searches, but this sucks. I've never had a problem like this and I hate to see my plant looking this sad

I can post a picture later tonight.

 

[fish601]

lol i always thought hydro was harder than soil grows

 

[KaleoXxX]

hydro is way harder, but if you start hydro, soil is too simple, and when hydro grower gives a soil plant too much attention bad things can happen

 

[Hidden Agenda]

I'm using some good fox farm soil.. I think some of the problem is that the clone was rooted, then stuck in a jiffy pot inserted into a beer cup. I tried to remove the jiffy pot before transplanting, but the roots were not liking it. Jiffy pots just don't seem like a good idea to me.


Other than that, I've just watered it twice. The plant should be much bigger IMO. The leaves aren't as dark green as i'd like, the tips are curling up, and the lower leaves are turning spotty and dying.


I need to know what kind of volume of water at what ph to flush at.

 

[NeoAnarchist]

ya man lol my soil plants looked like crap also, im a hydro grower hands down, and when i finally did soil, plants turned out so crappy, but its a work in progress. flush with some distilled water, 89cent at ur local grocery store. or water thats 7.0

 

[KaleoXxX]

6>7 (more than 6 less than 7)

ive seen a grow where a guy had a grow started with seeds in a jiffy pot and he never removed the cloth. 3 mo later his plant was like 4 inches and root bound ass all hell

 

[Hidden Agenda]

6>7 (more than 6 less than 7)

ive seen a grow where a guy had a grow started with seeds in a jiffy pot and he never removed the cloth. 3 mo later his plant was like 4 inches and root bound ass all hell

meh, I'm going to flush it... and hopefully just take some clones off of it

I'm sure it's probably the jiffy pot, because I'm just watering once a week with water that's ~6.5-6.7ish and then just leaving it alone. Like i said, i used really good soil and haven't added any nutes whatsoever. I'm not going to shock it by taking it out and trying to remove even more of the jiffy pot again.


I took it out of the HID closet and threw it under some cfl's... If it recovers i'll be happy. Even if i can just take some clones and get them in something more stable i'll be happy

Just kinda bummed. Wanted to pull a few dozen cuttings off this plant and flower it out.



What kind of volume of water should i use to flush is my main question that i need answered... should i pour a few gallons through?

 

[The Warlord]

I believe most people use like 3 times the pot size so 2 gallon pot would be like 6 gallons.

 

[Slab]

Why are you flushing?

Transplant I say, get a more stable medium.

 

[Hidden Agenda]

My medium is good, if you haven't read. It's that the roots are grown into the jiffy pot. The plant will either recover or it wont.


I have it in a 2 gallon pot of some of the finest fox farm soil out there. I'm flushing in the hope that it will help stabalize the situation and maybe help degrade the jiffy pot.

I'm not going to try to remove any more of the jiffy pot and destroy the roots in the process.

 

[Slab]

My medium is good, if you haven't read. It's that the roots are grown into the jiffy pot. The plant will either recover or it wont.


I have it in a 2 gallon pot of some of the finest fox farm soil out there. I'm flushing in the hope that it will help stabalize the situation and maybe help degrade the jiffy pot.

I'm not going to try to remove any more of the jiffy pot and destroy the roots in the process.

ah got it, the case of the toxic jiffy pot.
is it causing ph fluctuation?

sorry I missed the first time, i hope she makes it out of ICU

 

[KaleoXxX]

i thought you said u didnt use any nutes? what are you flushing?

 

[Hidden Agenda]

I think the soil pH may be off, and I'm trying to do whatever I can to help degrade that jiffy pot. I figured a good flush wouldnt hurt

 

[nraged]

I think the soil pH may be off, and I'm trying to do whatever I can to help degrade that jiffy pot. I figured a good flush wouldnt hurt

Ocean forrest is ph balanced and I found it usually returns to the correct ph after a couple days. I started in jiffy pots as well and a couple were not that cooperative. I did break off some of the roots while trying to get these things off. I found having them super moist they just kinda fall apart though.. The plants affected by the roots just stunted for a couple days. They did bounce back. Not sure how old your plant is now. But the soil is only good with no nutrients for about 3 weeks after that you plant will show signs of need nutes. Another thing i found with ff nutes only the tiger bloom has calcium in it and you dont start usuing it till preflower. SO during veg a couple of my plants showed signs they need calcium. As far as flushing distilled water is good something with ph 6-6.5 from my understanding. General rule of thumb when doing emergency flush for every 1 gallon of soil you double with water.

 

[iloveit]

6>7 (more than 6 less than 7)

ive seen a grow where a guy had a grow started with seeds in a jiffy pot and he never removed the cloth. 3 mo later his plant was like 4 inches and root bound ass all hell

Damn Im currently cloning my Blueberrys in Jiffy pots filled with Soil but so far so good. I thought the roots grow out the pot & thats when you transplant right?

 

[Slab]

Damn Im currently cloning my Blueberrys in Jiffy pots filled with Soil but so far so good. I thought the roots grow out the pot & thats when you transplant right?

I use the pellets myself, and jiffy pots are an old stand by.

Don t think that was the problem here.

Just watch what you transplant into, those soils with nutes added can be hard on young plants.

If I remember correctly oh so green recommend cutting that Ocean Forest in half with peat. you can also give a buffer with plain potting soil,then let plant mature and grow into it.

 

[iloveit]

Im using Biobizz light mix so it should be ok, now my concern ae those clones in jiffy pots will they or will they not grow grow roots out of the porous pot?

 

[KaleoXxX]

id tear those jiffy pots up now before your in the same problem as him, where the plant is terribly root bound and fixing the problem would tear up half the roots