Halliburton in Iran
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7xstall
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i think med was insinuating that because i pointed out that the deal was "legal" i would be ok with it. there are lots of things that are legal which i find revolting. that was my only point.
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Chrisuperfly
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Haliburton had actually been talking about dumping KBR for a long time based on its ROI. They simply werent making enough money off of them. Its probably better for KBR that they split from Haliburton. I believe KBR split back in April/May time frame.
7xstall
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they're really good at what they have always done and they make tons of money doing it. guess they realized that the concept of spreading yourself too thin is very real! all big business must divide to survive...that is, unless the government props it up.
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medicineman
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That sounds interesting, but I believe you have it exactly backwards. Big business has in the last 20 or so years, been buying up the competition, hostile takeovers, stock depleting etc. There are quite a few less medium sized companies and a few huge companies. By eliminating the competition, they have cornered the market so to speak and it's now a take it or leave it situation with those at the top taking way too much. If all the top guys play golf together (elites) what do you think they talk about? How to control the rest of us so they can live like kings. Those tasering cops are just the beginning of the surprises they have in store for the citizens, rubber bullets that can put out an eye, break bones. a sound frequency weapon that can fry your brain and deafen you, believe me, they are getting prepared for total crowd control, divide and conquer, thats why keeping the internet free from government interference is so vital. In case no-one has noticed, we live in a police controled state. When the police start outnumbering the citizens, we'll have a real problem. The schools are already trying to get the kids to rat out the parents, shades of Nazi Germany anyone? I can see the third reich coming, sans Hitler.they're really good at what they have always done and they make tons of money doing it. guess they realized that the concept of spreading yourself too thin is very real! all big business must divide to survive...that is, unless the government props it up.
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7xstall
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what do you read no bid contracts as, med? government props.
what about getting a break on import taxes and duties for larger volume? government props.
one company can not fully accommodate any market where there is sustained high demand. just like a large government can not fully accommodate an enslaved citizenry for long...
it's the nature of the beast called commerce.
when the government steps in and tries to do the job that the market will naturally do anyway, anti-trust, it's only harming consumers because whenever you get a company holding its customers hostage it won't be long before a new company comes along and offers a lower price, better service, etc... if the giant company is being FAIR to customers and NOT being manipulated by government then customers CAN be perfectly happy with monopolies.
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medicineman
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Look 7X, you can't call this regime the representative government. These no-bid contracts were set up in the first Bush administration and a war started to utilize them. The only thing a government should do with business is have oversight on health and safety, require businesses selling goods purchased in the US to be Made In the Us by U*S citizens, otherwise sayonara, get the fuck out and don't send any of your shit here, period. Also any company doing business with the government, Pentagon etc., must manufacture these goods within the US borders and use US citizens to do the work. This is the only general involvement in business it should have, no subsidies, and if the Chinese are making wigets for 50cents and the US can't produce them for that amount, then a tax must be placed on the foriegn items to level the playing field. I know this could be lucrative for US businesses, and the price of goods would have to go up, but there will always be the underground where you could purchase goods for less to keep the US business Manufacturers in line. This might not be a perfect plan, but I believe it is much better than the one we have now where the corporations are running the government. This would put millions back to work and broaden the tax base and with the increase in corporate taxes, I believe we could get started on paying the debt down, although If I were in charge, I would Nationalize the national debt and fire the bankers, and zero it out, fuck all the creditors, let them come and try and get it, just like the arabs nationalized the oil fields in the 50s, Your Uncle Sam could fend them off and make some lucrative deals that would set this government straight. Do you like China, Japan, Great Britain and a few other countries owning your national Parks, I don't!
7xstall
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all these regulations that you listed might "feel" patriotic but the best thing to do is let things run their course, without government interference. yes, there will be corrupt corporations that come and go but that's far far far better than a deeply entrenched corrupt government that spreads its cancerous tentacles all over our lives.
i have a lot of issues with the government, you can call it the "current government" if you need to but the fact is it's been pretty damn messed up for several decades.
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i have a lot of issues with the government, you can call it the "current government" if you need to but the fact is it's been pretty damn messed up for several decades.
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Chrisuperfly
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The Mining Act of 1872 was passed by U.S. Grant and is a perfect example of how long this has been going on.
Some 28,000 companies and individuals paid less than $5 an acre to patent land with precious metals and minerals under terms of the 1872 Mining Law.
Those claims account for 5.6 million acres of public lands.
94 companies 82 from Canada, three each from Australia and Britain, two from Mexico and one each from Barbados, Germany, Japan and Russia control those rights on 1.2 million acres.
medicineman
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Again, corporate giveaways. You must rescind all lucrative deals like those and open up for bids what the public says is OK. Public lands belong to you and I, we are the public. Is it OK for a Mining company, Foriegn or domestic to destroy the public lands for profit? I say no. Like Alaska, the citizens should be afforded a percentage of the profits from natural resourses. when a mining company wants to open a mine, they should have a public meeting and propose their agenda to the public before a decision is made, Like a town hall meeting, then the public can vote yes or no and suggest changes to their agenda, kind of a take it or leave it deal because we all know the mining company will do no-one but themselves and a few dozen workers any good, and abandoned mines kill hundreds every year.
Chrisuperfly
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I agree with your point makes sense to me. I think, though, that the residents of Alaska get a small kickback from the oil and mining that is done there.
Resinman
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haliburton worked with libya for years,,,now libya is nice country they are not the evil they once were labled by usa goverment
haliburton and many other companys have set up those off shore shells to be with in the law
just shows you the MEDIA IS NOT TO THE LEFT
if it was they would expose the truth
resinman
haliburton and many other companys have set up those off shore shells to be with in the law
just shows you the MEDIA IS NOT TO THE LEFT
if it was they would expose the truth
resinman
medicineman
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Amen Resinman.