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GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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Sure did...

here are my entries in the contest, noting that I have chosen 4 of the C99 for moms...

So here are my 8 C99 clones...





and just to keep it all together... here are my 4 bagseed clones...



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GypsyBush

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:hump::hump::hump:

GypsyBush said:
The bean counter is still screaming... so I had to appease him some...

3 plants under 2 lights...












And the other side gets to play SOG for a little longer...

The bigger plants are my moms... they will go to a separate veg room before I switch this room to flower...

Or maybe they'll stay and I'll make more moms... we'll see... :eyesmoke:



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GypsyBush

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Hemlock said:
Looking good buddy!! Have ever tried rapid rooter vs rockwell?
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I have... and I like them...

But my op is NOT COMPATIBLE with anything organic...

I use h2o2...

The Rapid Rooter plugs, being organic, tend to come apart and foul up the pumps when h2o2 is used frequently... and I do...

Rock Wool on the other hand is a mineral... it's rock... melted and spun much like cotton candy... h2o2 does not affect it...

I have had great success with both... and RW can be finicky... but it is very reliable once you get it down pat...

Do you use RR plugs?
 
o= High= o

o= High= o

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Hey Gypsy im doing my 2nd time at clones the first time went good but took longer than i think it should have this time should any of the stem be sticking through the bottom of the rock wool plugs in a bubble cloner? the first time they were in 1/2 way and took 3 weeks for a good root system to come through the rockwool (looks like your going to win one of the prizes in the contest) i would say good luck but you dont need luck, Your a genius .
 
GypsyBush

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o= High= o said:
Hey Gypsy im doing my 2nd time at clones the first time went good but took longer than i think it should have this time should any of the stem be sticking through the bottom of the rock wool plugs in a bubble cloner? the first time they were in 1/2 way and took 3 weeks for a good root system to come through the rockwool (looks like your going to win one of the prizes in the contest) i would say good luck but you dont need luck, Your a genius .
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Let me get this straight...

You use RW cubes in your bubble cloner????

Why?

Seems to me you should use one OR the other...

Does you RW get wet all the time?
 
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Hemlock

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GypsyBush said:
I have... and I like them...

But my op is NOT COMPATIBLE with anything organic...

I use h2o2...

The Rapid Rooter plugs, being organic, tend to come apart and foul up the pumps when h2o2 is used frequently... and I do...

Rock Wool on the other hand is a mineral... it's rock... melted and spun much like cotton candy... h2o2 does not affect it...

I have had great success with both... and RW can be finicky... but it is very reliable once you get it down pat...

Do you use RR plugs?
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Yeah I went to RR after several bouts of sick plants with rockwell. i just hate having to treat those cubes.
I use h2o2 every res change (10 days) with no problem. I use some organic stuff, transchula, pirianna, a little voodoo.
But my main stable is GH orginal 3 part.

Looks like its working well for ya..
 
GypsyBush

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Hemlock said:
Yeah I went to RR after several bouts of sick plants with rockwell. i just hate having to treat those cubes.
I use h2o2 every res change (10 days) with no problem. I use some organic stuff, transchula, pirianna, a little voodoo.
But my main stable is GH orginal 3 part.

Looks like its working well for ya..
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What concentration and how much do you use at every res change...?

and Rock Wool cubes can be tricky... but I am up to 98% success rate...

The trick is to water your cubes by weight...;-)
 
o= High= o

o= High= o

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GypsyBush said:
Let me get this straight...

You use RW cubes in your bubble cloner????

Why?

Seems to me you should use one OR the other...

Does you RW get wet all the time?
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not wet, but the bottom stays very moist from the bubbles splashing up . I put rockwool plugs not cubes they are round 1 1/2 in long and wide with a split down the middle for cuttings in a 2in net pot drop those in a 1 gal tote with holes in the top. the level of water is level with the bottom of the net pot. i only do 4 at a time
 
GypsyBush

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not wet, but the bottom stays very moist from the bubbles splashing up . I put rockwool plugs not cubes they are round 1 1/2 in long and wide with a split down the middle for cuttings in a 2in net pot drop those in a 1 gal tote with holes in the top. the level of water is level with the bottom of the net pot. i only do 4 at a time
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Rock Wool, regardless of the shape, are able to absorb ENORMOUS amounts of water...

And they are really good at wicking... so if one corner of the plug it wet, the water will be distributed evenly over the plug...

RW should never be wet... damp is the word... a 4gram cube (dry weight) should weigh 25 to 35 grams damp (with a 5" clone included)

I wet the corners of my cubes for one second every day... and sometimes that is too much...

I can only imagine that if your plugs are allowed contact with the bubbles, your plugs are soaked, and will rot your stems...

Can you post a picture of your cloner?

I am not harping on you... but over-wet RW is the #1 killer of clones...

Why not just use the RW OR the bubbler by themselves?

I am really confused about your cloning method.. it's almost like having chocolate pasta... seems like 2 recipes got crossed....

:joint::peace:
 
purpdaddy

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o= High= o said:
not wet, but the bottom stays very moist from the bubbles splashing up . I put rockwool plugs not cubes they are round 1 1/2 in long and wide with a split down the middle for cuttings in a 2in net pot drop those in a 1 gal tote with holes in the top. the level of water is level with the bottom of the net pot. i only do 4 at a time
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This is what happens if your medium stays WET..like the RW we use..just DAMP..i lost these due to that.
 
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o= High= o

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GypsyBush said:
Rock Wool, regardless of the shape, are able to absorb ENORMOUS amounts of water...

And they are really good at wicking... so if one corner of the plug it wet, the water will be distributed evenly over the plug...

RW should never be wet... damp is the word... a 4gram cube (dry weight) should weigh 25 to 35 grams damp (with a 5" clone included)

I wet the corners of my cubes for one second every day... and sometimes that is too much...

I can only imagine that if your plugs are allowed contact with the bubbles, your plugs are soaked, and will rot your stems...

Can you post a picture of your cloner?

I am not harping on you... but over-wet RW is the #1 killer of clones...

Why not just use the RW OR the bubbler by themselves?

I am really confused about your cloning method.. it's almost like having chocolate pasta... seems like 2 recipes got crossed....

:joint::peace:
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Yea ill get some pix up soon, so you can see what im trying to say. so you mean i could put the clones in just RW on a tray with a dome? or stick my clones straight into a hole in styrofoam or something and let the stem hang into bubbler? Thankx so much man your guys GB PD helped me big time
 
GypsyBush

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yeah but no dome... no misting...

Clones should be kept thirsty... alive.. but thirsty...

Thirsty clones concern themselves with making root to find more water...

Clones that are given everything they need, will most likely rot before they see the need to make roots...
 
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o= High= o

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GypsyBush said:
yeah but no dome... no misting...

Clones should be kept thirsty... alive.. but thirsty...

Thirsty clones concern themselves with making root to find more water...

Clones that are given everything they need, will most likely rot before they see the need to make roots...
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That makes perfect sense, Im still trying to get pix up of me little cloner, Do you use the 3 in square cubes? Do you make the hole for the clones bigger or a snug fit and how deep? Thankx again for your help Oh Yea I Have Rootech cloning gel, What do you suggest is the best?
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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I use the 2" cubes... 4 grams dry.. 20 to 30 grams damp without a clone...

And I just stick them in there... about 3/4 of the way I guess...

You want a snug fit... some cubes have hollow spots, avoid those spots...

Now...

Once you have roots... what do you do with them?
 
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GypsyBush said:
I use the 2" cubes... 4 grams dry.. 20 to 30 grams damp without a clone...

And I just stick them in there... about 3/4 of the way I guess...

You want a snug fit... some cubes have hollow spots, avoid those spots...

Now...

Once you have roots... what do you do with them?
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I put a layer of hydroton in the bottom of a 5 or 6 in net pot lay the clone and RW on top of that verry gently then fill in around the RW with more hydrotion pellets cover the top with something like a plastic butter bowl lid so no light can get to the RW or roots then stick her in a 5 gal bubble bucket, With the nute level just to the bottom of the pot
 
GypsyBush

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in your case... I believe Rapid Rooter Plugs would be the best option...

they do not mind being soaked.. and it's easy as pie to get roots with them...

 
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