OMG HELP! its dying

nick17gar

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the powerline or something broke yesterday, i didnt have power for 9 hours. look at my baby today!!!! what should i do?



im 4 days into flowering, should i move this one to my grow room w the bright white lights? should i make a support system? should i trash it now and start mourning?


im freaking out and feel like im gonna hurl
 

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brasmith

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the powerline or something broke yesterday, i didnt have power for 9 hours. look at my baby today!!!! what should i do?



im 4 days into flowering, should i move this one to my grow room w the bright white lights? should i make a support system? should i trash it now and start mourning?


im freaking out and feel like im gonna hurl
A bit dramatic......but restart all your grow gear and it will be fine.:peace:
 

laserbrn

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A bit dramatic......but restart all your grow gear and it will be fine.:peace:

haha....WAAAAAY dramatic. Just turn your shit back on and you'll be fine. They don't look that bad. Probably be fine in a day or two. If they seem worse in real life you could go revert them back to veg so they get another shot at a stress free flower, but it'll take another 2-3 weeks. I would probably just keep them going from here. They don't look too bad at all. The one looks pretty droopy and the roots might have been a bit damaged, but it doesn't look terrible.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
why didnt you just hand water the plants while the lights were out as its not from no light its from no water. That plant also has a deficiency issue as you can see how the leaves have yellow streak through them. Either a cal or mag deficiency Im guess at quick look
 

laserbrn

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I was assuming this was some kind of DWC system and the air pump died. It does seem pretty f*ed up for 9 hours with the lights off.

Are these ebb & flow waterfarm type buckets or individual DWC buckets?
 

nick17gar

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um, individual DWC system, i did hand water them, but keep in mind i got 30+ babies, and it was 9 hours w/out power. I guess ill leave this one in the flowering room. I have a dolomitic lime / magnesium mix i can add and i bought a stick thing to help support it.

sorry if im dramatic, this is my first grow, and i was totally freaking out. ive spent too much money to let something happen to my babies
 

nick17gar

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well i walked in today and it looks even worse. im about to just toss it out. its pretty much dead
 

laserbrn

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That's the downside to DWC. If your power fails it blows. It doesn't take long for serious root damage and rot when the air pump isn't running.

Sorry brotha...You skipped an all important step. Gotta wire up all of those air pumps to a UPS. The draw next to nothing so should run on battery for a very long time with a pretty small UPS. Always gotta do that for DWC or a power outage will own you.
 

nraged

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Ouch I feel for you man. I dont know much about the growing methods your using but from reading this I know I will now have a back up power source incase I do dabble with it. Im sure once you get back on track your investment will bring you some money back if not break even. Good luck though hopefully everything works out for the best. Just smoke a :joint: to calm down and figure how your gonna move forward from this.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Thats weird onlky 9 hours and you were hand watering. I lost a pump in aero before and plants were fine for a complete day before showing wilt. In a flood and drain hydro setup hell the pumps only come on every 6-8 hours anyways..
 

laserbrn

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Thats weird onlky 9 hours and you were hand watering. I lost a pump in aero before and plants were fine for a complete day before showing wilt. In a flood and drain hydro setup hell the pumps only come on every 6-8 hours anyways..
It's not that in nine hours the roots dry out. It's that in 9 hours without oxygenating the water the roots start to rot. The roots are submerged so now the plant is just basically drowned with no oxygen and root rot sets in.
 

nick17gar

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yea well thankfully, it was only 1 of the 7 that i was flowering. its all good. i cant freak out over one and forget the other 6. It also seems like this neighborhood has lots of power issues so i will be looking into a generator or something to keep them ok in case of power outage
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
laser that would be true if you actually submerged the entire root ball which you do not do in dwc. Half the roots will be in the air and in the medium like the rockwool or hydroton with only partial roots actually in the water especially at this stage as the root mass wont be huge just yet big but a good portion is out of the water with plenty of O2. If your thereory was correct trees on the river bank who have roots going into the water from the bank would casue the tree to die being submerged for years. Still weird it drooped so bad in such short time and was watered
 

laserbrn

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laser that would be true if you actually submerged the entire root ball which you do not do in dwc. Half the roots will be in the air and in the medium like the rockwool or hydroton with only partial roots actually in the water especially at this stage as the root mass wont be huge just yet big but a good portion is out of the water with plenty of O2. If your thereory was correct trees on the river bank who have roots going into the water from the bank would casue the tree to die being submerged for years. Still weird it drooped so bad in such short time and was watered
It's not a matter of delivering the oxygen to the plant. The roots that are submerged get rotted in the water. It's just what happens and IS one of the major downsides of DWC. And at this stage. more like 80-90% of the roots are in the water. Most of the root mass reaches the water very quickly in most DWC systems I've ever worked with and gets enormous down there.

Not sure if the OP is still watching this thread, but if you could post pictures of the roots when you pull them outta there it will illustrate what happened nicely. All brown and mushy like instead of bright white and nice.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Guess it different for me then as when I did grow dwc I never had a problem if I lost power for the day as long as I did a few hand watering roots where fine and plants didnt droop. In a 5 gallon bucket I had maybe 3 gallons then I had 10 inch netpot lids that sat half way down the buckets so maybe 3 gallon of water in the bucket at most. I also used grotek super H202 in them also which added more o2 to the roots in the water so maybe thats what helped me never have an issue like that
 

nick17gar

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It's not a matter of delivering the oxygen to the plant. The roots that are submerged get rotted in the water. It's just what happens and IS one of the major downsides of DWC. And at this stage. more like 80-90% of the roots are in the water. Most of the root mass reaches the water very quickly in most DWC systems I've ever worked with and gets enormous down there.

Not sure if the OP is still watching this thread, but if you could post pictures of the roots when you pull them outta there it will illustrate what happened nicely. All brown and mushy like instead of bright white and nice.
1 - Of course im still following this thread
2 - and yea, you are right brown and mushy instead of the bright white.
3 - i should have taken a photo to illustrate this more but yea dude your right
 
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