Auto flower?

[Phase420]

Auto Flowering plants?? whats the deal? how does it work? and why?
I was looking at seed the other night and was trying to decided if i wanted to try seeds that auto flower. But i figured come see what everyone eles is thinking about them.

 

[Maryjane123]

Basically Autoflowering means that is not dependant on the light cycle to go into flowering,which means that you don't have to switch them to 12/12 for them to flower, as they will flower no matter how much light you give them 18/6 or 24/0 they will flower.

However I am not a lover on auto flowering strains and I think it's more of a novelty thing.

I would recommend you get a pack of Seedsman - White Widow and then grow them 12/12 from seed, this way it's cheaper to buy than the autoflowering seeds and you will get a better yield and better smoke and means it will be cheaper on the electricity at running them on 12/12. As if you where growing auto flowering strains, to even get any respectable yield, you have to run them at 18/6 and some say 24/0 gives better results but the yield tbh is still crap and the smoke is only average aswell.

Thats just my 2 cents though.

Good Luck Bro..

Peace

mj123

 

[Phase420]

Basically Autoflowering means that is not dependant on the light cycle to go into flowering,which means that you don't have to switch them to 12/12 for them to flower, as they will flower no matter how much light you give them 18/6 or 24/0 they will flower.

However I am not a lover on auto flowering strains and I think it's more of a novelty thing.

I would recommend you get a pack of Seedsman - White Widow and then grow them 12/12 from seed, this way it's cheaper to buy than the autoflowering seeds and you will get a better yield and better smoke and means it will be cheaper on the electricity at running them on 12/12. As if you where growing auto flowering strains, to even get any respectable yield, you have to run them at 18/6 and some say 24/0 gives better results but the yield tbh is still crap and the smoke is only average aswell.

Thats just my 2 cents though.

Good Luck Bro..

Peace

mj123

Thanks bro. yeah i dont think im even going to try auto flower. i like to know that i started it so i can keep it logged! but great info.
- 1 more Question will it still flower all the way under 18/6?

 

[Happy Leaf]

Maryjane123 pretty much summed it up.

Edit: Everyone will have different opinions on it since some may like quality or quantity or just want to grow something without as much effort.

If you ever have the money to buy some I would buy them just to experiment with them, and see if you like the result, that's what I would do.

 

[Maryjane123]

"1 more Question will it still flower all the way under 18/6"


If your meaning auto flowering strains, then yes, as it is in it's genetics to auto flower.

However if your meaning white widow, then the answer is no, as it's not an autoflowering strain and 18/6 will be classed as "the vegative stage" and 12/12 "the flowering stage".

If you do get the white widow seeds and have the space I would recommend vegging it. Basically, the longer you leave the plant in the "vegative stage", technically speaking the yield of the harvest should be a lot larger.

If you don't have much space, then 12/12 is the way to go or you could LST or even scrog etc etc, there's plent of info on these forums which is very helpful, you will have to do a lot of reading, the more reading you do, you should be able to pick up more knowledge which will then mean you should be a lot more confident in what you are doing with your plants.

Good Luck

Peace

mj123

 

[guitarabuser]

Autoflowering plants have their place. They flower based on age, not light cycles. The plants are small and so are the yields, but having an outdoor harvest while photoperiod plants are still vegging is one way to keep some smoke on hand while the big girls are finishing. The autos I've grown (Diesel Ryder) have given a great high and smell great, but it's a little harsh.

 

[Phase420]

Those are all really great facts and ideas. ill keep that in mind never hurts to try.

 

[Phase420]

"1 more Question will it still flower all the way under 18/6"


If your meaning auto flowering strains, then yes, as it is in it's genetics to auto flower.

However if your meaning white widow, then the answer is no, as it's not an autoflowering strain and 18/6 will be classed as "the vegative stage" and 12/12 "the flowering stage".

If you do get the white widow seeds and have the space I would recommend vegging it. Basically, the longer you leave the plant in the "vegative stage", technically speaking the yield of the harvest should be a lot larger.

If you don't have much space, then 12/12 is the way to go or you could LST or even scrog etc etc, there's plent of info on these forums which is very helpful, you will have to do a lot of reading, the more reading you do, you should be able to pick up more knowledge which will then mean you should be a lot more confident in what you are doing with your plants.

Good Luck

Peace

mj123

How would the light cycle help if it was left on longer for yeild with a auto flower or could i go back to a normal 12/12?

how does the amount of light its get in lumens help?

 

[strangerdude562]

I think It's a waste of time, It's cool to do one grow but I didn't like my yield and ruderalis has less potency. I would rather get a higher more potent yield.

 

[tyke1973]

I have said it 100's of times on this site auto flowering plants are worth shit.It would not be so bad if the plants were a little cheeper or produced quicker but they don't.I can't get it through to some of you that a ak47 original strain will give you far more than a auto.1 plant can last for years if you keep cloneing her,Where has a auto plant can't be cloned once it produces it dies.Do i realy need to say more.Clone a original ak47 strain once it has roots flowr it,At the same time set you AUTO seed going flower the clone has soon has it has roots it will produce the same has the auto.But the differance been you still can have loads more clones of a mother plant.I'm not interested about the plants been good to fill in gaps in grow areas so do clones when rooted.THERE A GIMMIK.

 

[northwoodsmoker]

I have said it 100's of times on this site auto flowering plants are worth shit.It would not be so bad if the plants were a little cheeper or produced quicker but they don't.I can't get it through to some of you that a ak47 original strain will give you far more than a auto.1 plant can last for years if you keep cloneing her,Where has a auto plant can't be cloned once it produces it dies.Do i realy need to say more.Clone a original ak47 strain once it has roots flowr it,At the same time set you AUTO seed going flower the clone has soon has it has roots it will produce the same has the auto.But the differance been you still can have loads more clones of a mother plant.I'm not interested about the plants been good to fill in gaps in grow areas so do clones when rooted.THERE A GIMMIK.

everyone has their own opinion right??

 

[guitarabuser]

Tyke, you are absolutley right. The yields are tiny compared to a photoperiod plant with shared genetics. The absolute ONLY advantage to an auto is the fact that it can be started outdoors early and finished flowering before a photoperiod plant even starts budding.

 

[RichED]

they have to be worth it to you not to someone else

i grow them in a small closet next to my growtent in closet goes seedlings cuttings on shelf on floor goes autos three going now under about 100 watts each o mixed light 2700 and 65 00

those that say potency is week i dont knw what the f the are talking about thay must never have tried
easy ryder lowryder 2 x ax47
diesel ryder soma diesel x lowryder 2
white russian snow white ak47


2 main autos low ryder 2 and ax47 cant lose with most combos

first low ryders not low ryder 2 was shit and the low 2 has been gratly improved

i suggest you try for yourself as i did and now love them don bellieve the haters

you can clone but its a waste of time when plant is ready so is clone so whats use so what i did was on my second grow (i been at it for six months now ) i grew out a male in anothe room polinated a sister plant and now growing out the seeds do not listen to haters

not cheap originally but do what the fuck i tell you and you only pay for original order they are cheap after that lol

now yield can vary i did a lot iof exoperimenting i have had a dinky 6 incher and wopping 18 incher i love diesel ryders stink but smoke is good dont know what the fuck these peiole are talking about

listen to me im an expert at it for 6 month grew twice LOL
TRANSPLANT ONCE AT MAX -DONT LIKE
LOVES LIGHT AS MUCH AS POS WITHOUT BURN
LOVES ROOT STIMULATOR
HATES STRONG NUTES I START AT ABOUT 1/5 GO UP TO ABOUT 1/2 STRENTH MAX THERE
FEED EVERY OTHER
LIKES 2 TO 2 1/2 GAL POTS LIKES DEP DONT CARE ABOUT WIDE ( NOT LIKE GIRLS THEY WANT BOTH LOL)
TREAT AS SEEDLING 2 WEEKS JUST WATER THEN START FERTS
WILL FLOWER IN WK 3 FOR 6 WKS I POLLENATE DO WK AFTER FLOWER START SO SEEDS CAN DEVELOPE BY END
WILL SHHOW SEX BALE 17 DAYS FEMALE 21 DAY

THERE I DID YOUR HOMEWORK YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GGROW A GOOD AUTO ALMOST AS GOOD AS ME DONT LISTEN TO THE HATERS NOT A MAIN COURSE BUT A SIDE DISH

I HAVE GROW TENT SPLIT IN HALF 2 250W SETUPS ONE SIDE HAS BLUBERRY AND SNOW WHIT OTHERSIDE HAS 3 KALI MIST

YOU GET ALL KINDS OF ANSWERS SOME NO NOTHING OF WHAT THEY SPEAK AND SHOULD BE READERS INSTEAD OF WRITERS YOU FEEL ME

IN THS SITE YOU COLLECT INFO THEN DO WHATS BEST FOR YOU

LUCK TO YOU MY BROTHER


FLUSH WK 8

 

[mp377t]

so far I am happy with my autos. I have one that will be done in about 3 weeks and another thats got about 5 weeks left. I bought lowlifes auto mixed pack from dr chronic. 15 seeds for $48 not bad with a 100% germ rate so far. I have had 3 males and 3 females. Everytime one shows balls I start germinating a new seed and keep the cycle going.

 

[guitarabuser]

Just a side note, I grew out a batch of Diesel Ryders and let them seed. I seem to have a much better germ rate off of those seeds than the originals. Phenotypes can vary drastically with DR, but I see less variation in the 2nd gen seeds as well (in-breeding?). The best I had yielded an even oz each.

 

[blazinbudsforever]

i got 2.5 oz from a 400w hps in hydro my first grow ever 1 lowryder plant. bud is decent, deffo

 

[Masswhole]

Auto Flowering plants?? whats the deal? how does it work? and why?
I was looking at seed the other night and was trying to decided if i wanted to try seeds that auto flower. But i figured come see what everyone eles is thinking about them.

Auto lowrider 2 / ak47 is all I can speak for. First seed/plant was cute, sweet smelling but yielded little and was not worth it. Next one outdoors, we'll see the difference.

 

[northeastern lights]

It's all a personal preference. Myself I dont care for them. The only auto I've ever grown was mighty-mite. Great smoke. Started july 4th and they were done in sept.

 

[stickyfingers]

AF plants are worth it if you have space indoors for a few of them or use some space outdoors for them. The yield isn't always great but it is some smoke to keep you going between harvests of normal strains. If you grew a big lot of AF's you'd get a decent amount. I find they are more useful for having something to smoke between harvests.

 

[Maryjane123]

I have said it 100's of times on this site auto flowering plants are worth shit.It would not be so bad if the plants were a little cheeper or produced quicker but they don't.I can't get it through to some of you that a ak47 original strain will give you far more than a auto.1 plant can last for years if you keep cloneing her,Where has a auto plant can't be cloned once it produces it dies.Do i realy need to say more.Clone a original ak47 strain once it has roots flowr it,At the same time set you AUTO seed going flower the clone has soon has it has roots it will produce the same has the auto.But the differance been you still can have loads more clones of a mother plant.I'm not interested about the plants been good to fill in gaps in grow areas so do clones when rooted.THERE A GIMMIK.

Totally agree, after you have growing them once the novelty wheres off real quick. I find the Autoflowering strains are aimed at noobs and first time growers.

People who have posted about AF don't take my comment personally, that is just my opinion.

Here is another disadvantage of autoflowering strains, for example most people average at 14+ Grams Per A Plant of auto, right?

If you grew a "normal plant" and average yield was 2 oz Per A Plant, that would mean you would have to grow at least 4 Auto Flowering strains, just to match the yield of a "normal strain".

Another is, say you got the AF and had 8 flowering females to get you 4 oz+ and you got busted, as lets face it, before you start growing you have to be prepared as it's always a possibility, the cops will take a much heavier view of you cultivating 8 plants then only 2 plants, as you can clearly see 1 or 2 would be personal. To cut it short, you would have a harder time explaining 8 plants than 2 which would yield almost similar, if not more if you trained em.

The AF Bud is ok, and tbh the seeds are expensive as well, and for the price they charge you can get plenty more kick ass strains such as Purple wreck(take a look at my sig ),kush or white widow or even Lemon skunk and would be more potent bud and more cost efficient for you too grow.