The Docc's Outdoor Grow

This is my first attempt at a grow of any kind. My aim is to keep the plants small yet hardyy, and employ LST and SCROG techniques to keep it all covert. By November, I hope to have 8 healthy, trained plants, 4 of which I pray will be females.

I am using a bunch of bag seeds that I have collected from a number of different sacks, so I have no idea what species I'm looking at.

The weather is humid and hot, and the sun is out for almost 14 hours. From where I'm growing, the plants get about 9 hours of hard, direct sunlight per day.

I'm growing in small pots, using a generic potting soil sold at a local nursery.

I hope some people will follow along and offer advice.
 
Small plants did not respond well to tying down. My method was to use a straightened out paper clip with a hook bent on the end to hold down the plants while they weaved their way around the pot. I did this to three plants with no luck. At first, they responded really well. The sativa-heavy plant started to resemble a vine. Amazing how quick and resilient these plants are.

However, as they continued to grow, the paper clips got in the way of the bottom nodes, and, as the plant grew, the leaves started to mutilate or rip off completely. I took the ties off of the plant and within 5 hours they had, for the most part, stood back up. They are currently getting about 8 solid hours of direct sunlight, when the sun gets over the trees in the morning, and indirect sunlight for an additional 5.

Since my last entry, each of the four remaining plants has taken on very distinct characteristics.

Prodigy: Prodigy was the first to pop up and showed the most potential and the most vigor early on. As it grew, the heavy sativa influence, if not full sativa, became apparent. The internodes are far apart with long thin leaves, and compared to the shorter plants of the same age, the stem is amazingly thin for the plant’s height. This plant was tied down until two days ago, but has since straightened out and continued growing.

Hunter Thompson: Looks about a 50/50 cross. Shorter only than Prodigy, but still with relatively thick leaves and bushy look. A very hardy plant with a thick stem for its age, this plant was also tied down until two days ago. It has since straightened out. This was the plant that was particularly having a problem with the original tie down technique.

As an interesting note, the incoming node appears to have only one leaf.

Also, the top of the soil, which in this case was taken from the back yard and not from a bag, is persistently turning green. I suspect mold. If I scrape it off with a spoon, it comes back within a week.

Frankenstein: Another really hardy plant with thick leaves and stem and a bushy appearance. May be the heaviest indica influence of the lot. Responded well to being tied down and to straightening out.

The Green Monster: When The Green Monster first sprouted, there was too little soil in the pot, and the stem stretched out to reach the first leaves up over the rim. At the growth of the third node, I cut off the very bottom leaves and filled the pot the rest of the way up with soil. Since then, it has continued to grow, but the nodes have been extremely close together to where the plant almost resembles a palm tree.

There are also three seedlings which have recently sprouted from germinated seeds, and I am optimistic. I will germinate and plant three more seeds, with the goal of getting to eight viable plants by November, so that I can come out with at least four females.

Also, it has been extreeeemely rainy, sometimes pouring down during the day, but mostly at night. For this, I bought a large clear storage bin, cut strips out of the sides for oxygen flow, and put it over the plants when I either expect rain or am going out for many hours. It doesn’t seem to disrupt the plants’ ability to absorb sunlight, and protects it marvelously.

That's it 'til next week! Check back!

Pictures:
1. Rain Box
2. All of the plants and seedlings
3. Frankenstein
4. The Green Monster
5. Hunter Thompson
6. Prodigy
 

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I just realized I am posting in the wrong section. This would probably be more suited for the Journals section.

Can I move it?
 

JoeCa1i

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Black is the worst color for a outdoor pot,they get hot fast, and burn the roots....Flowering starts, in about 1 month,if your in the states
 
It’s week 3.5 for the big guys, week 1.5 for the smaller guys and week .5 for the little guy that popped up since my last entry. There has been an enormous amount of vegetative growth since the last week, and the 3.5's are nearing the point where they are just about to explode with growth.

I had a problem this week with what I assumed to be leaf miners in Hunter Thompson, the Green Monster and Frankenstein. There were little white and black lines in some of the lower leaves on the oldest plants (pic).

I picked up some thuricide from a local nursery and combined a small amount in a spray bottle with water. Misted the plants multiple times that day, and cut off the infected leaves later in the day. Since then, I haven’t seen any signs of anymore leaf miners, and the plants appear to be thriving. I suspect I’ll have to flush heavily before budding starts.

Also, the clipping of the leaves has triggered some side growth, particularly on the Hunter Thompson, which I had to cut high as a result of the leaf miners.

I have a new set up going, which is just a tray for garden pots covered in tin foil to keep the black tray from absorbing a ton of heat in this 95 degree weather.


In general, the rain has slowed down and we are getting long, hot sunny days.


In all, it’s looking good so far. Check back in a week.
 

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Two major updates since last time.

I topped the four month old plants about 4 days ago, and they have shown some serious vigor in sprouting side growth and new tops. Upward growth has slowed to a stand-still, which is good for my purposes. The second largest plants are now 3.5 weeks old and will be topped once they reach their 30-day-old mark.

Also, I tied down the Prodigy, my sativa-heavy plant, 3 days ago, using waxed dental floss and some screws I twisted into the pot-flat. I tied the stem at 90 degrees just under the top node to pull the top down, and the stem maybe 2 inches above the soil, to hold the base of the plant in the middle of the pot. Since then, the top has turned upward and the new nodes from topping her have nearly broken out. The effect is to create an even little canopy, about 5 inches high.

That’s about it. Check back in a week.
 

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Repotted the 4 largest, topped plants at 5.5 into larger pots wrapped in aluminum foil to avoid any heat problems. Trained the sativa a little further. You can see the split tops in the pictures below. It’s going well. :hump:
Any suggestions on how to keep them trained and pruned? I want bushes with lots of bud sites.
The other large plants will be ready for a transplant in about a week. They are getting root bound as well. I topped them yesterday and they are already showing signs of new shoots.
Also, my buddy gave me his three-month-old plant from clone. :hug: I named her Sunshine Dust. Her roots were packed perfectly in a rockwool cube that made for easy transplant. She took on a lot of stress after the transplant, and hasn’t fared well under the sun, so I’ve kept her in the shade until she gets used to this tropical humidity.
Comments welcome. Check back in a week!
 

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aznchrissd

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dude that sucks on how late you started your grow, next year plant during march and youll be staggered at the drifference
 
Yeah, I feel you. I didn't think about it until later in the year. Fall doesn't come for a while though, and it stays hot with long days late into the year.

Any suggestions on keeping them squat and bushy, though?
 

theloadeddragon

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Yeah, I feel you. I didn't think about it until later in the year. Fall doesn't come for a while though, and it stays hot with long days late into the year.

Any suggestions on keeping them squat and bushy, though?

Can you save some indoors through the winter to do a good sized spring harvest?
 
Nah, I don't have that option...but I don't really care to, either. These guys are certainly going to be small, but I'm going to maximize output however I can.

Any idea how much yield I can expect by the time they're done in the fall?
 
They've been going quite nicely since the last post. I've started training all of them, and transplanted the two 4.5-week-olds. I'd be perfectly satisfied with an ounce or two for my troubles. :weed:
 
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