AsianKatie's First Grow (Indoor)

asiankatie

asiankatie

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Okay, I have had the pleasure of having so many of you walk me through everything! from strains to systems to lights! So I've finally done it! I started out on this thread with inquiry to indoor growing pertaining to the aerogarden. I have since decided against it.. obviously.

Here's my set up.

It's a closet grow (literally).

I built a DWC system. Basically using a 10g rubbermaid, netpots, airpump and stone etc. as you will see in the pictures.

I virtually set this baby up yesterday! it's been about 25 Hours, and I have had the lights on the whole time. I was advised to have them on 24/7 for the first week or so.

It's probably about 75F in there. It's not really heating up which is a good thing. i can't plug in a fan yet though, because i am using a 13 amp extension and it caused this weird light issue when i tried yesterday, so I'm waiting on the 15amp cord that i ordered online. should be here tomorrow.

I am using (at the moment) (1) 175 watt Metal Halide by Hydrofarm. It's hanging approx. 15 inches from the plants. (in the pictures it is much further, that was taken before i moved it down..)

For flowering I am thinking about getting a hps conversion bulb although i have been advised by some to get red spectrum cfls. not sure which way I'm going to go yet.

I am starting with 5 seeds. The germination process took about 2 days before i saw little tails cracking out of the seeds, and 3 before 2 of them sprouted. When i set up the system, I put 4 of the 5 in the rockwool-->hydroton-->net pots. the 5th one just hasn't quite come out of the seed yet, I'm gonna give the guy a little more time.

Of the 4 planted, they all had long tails coming out, one had already shed its shell and had a sprout (its the one you see with the duct tape kinda around the hole.. he had an accident and fell through, so i had to make some adjustments. Anyway, the one to the right of that in the far right bottom corner just today is coming out of its shell, the one to the top right was buried a bit in the rockwool so i helped it find it's way up, and now within the last 5 hours it has really popped up. they're starting to get those second set of leaves as you can see. The one that I'm kinda concerned about is the top left corner. there's no leaves on it... I'm not really sure what happened... will they grow? or...

anyway here's some pics.

here's the finished product after I cut all the holes and put the cups in:


Here's the set up to the right side view, this was taken a couple hours after I set it up.


Here's some close ups from today (taken about 15 minutes ago) Ill just show one.. this is the first one to have sprouted that i mentioned before sorry its pretty blurry. (as you can see though, if you can tell its really stretched out of there a lot in the past 24 hours. from where it was just barely sitting on the rockwool in that first picture..)


and here's our odd stem one.. can't really figure out why it looks like this... any advice?
 
asiankatie

asiankatie

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nongreenthumb said:
Gyp is a good guy, stick with him, he'll make you a star ;) His sour diesel looks great.
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Yeah he's basically walked me through the whole thing. It's like.. just as good if not better than actually having someone physically here.

yeah his grow journal is out of control!

your avatar is awesome
 
Smoke2Live420

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asiankatie..could u take a pic of inside the bin...i want to build a hydroponic like that..i jus dont no what the inside should look like:-|
 
asiankatie

asiankatie

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BTW here's what's goin' on UNDER the LID.



I love the sound it sounds like sizzling. I made a small modification, since i had that empty pot in the center, and the seed hasn't come about yet, i decided to cover to hole to help eliminate any algae issues. don't want that.
 
Smoke2Live420

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WHAT DO YOU HAVE UNDER THE WATER TO MAKE THE BUBBLE..AIR STONES? AND I GUESS U GOT A AIR PUMP CONNECTED TO THE AIR STONE RIGHT?:blsmoke:
 
nongreenthumb

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asiankatie said:
I virtually set this baby up yesterday! it's been about 25 Hours, and I have had the lights on the whole time. I was advised to have them on 24/7 for the first week or so.
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24/7 all the way through veg, its the only way to travel unless you want to slow down their growth.
 
asiankatie

asiankatie

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Smoke2Live420 said:
WHAT DO YOU HAVE UNDER THE WATER TO MAKE THE BUBBLE..AIR STONES? AND I GUESS U GOT A AIR PUMP CONNECTED TO THE AIR STONE RIGHT?:blsmoke:
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Made a small hole just barely big enough for the hosing just under where the lid snaps in the back. It's 1 long airstone. you know how you can get them in the small size? well you can get bars of them too. I'm sure other people have them too. the bars are better, more disbursement otherwise you just have a shit load of bubbles coming up at one spot. no good unless you have 32423423432 air pumps connected.
 
Smoke2Live420

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asiankatie said:
Made a small hole just barely big enough for the hosing just under where the lid snaps in the back. It's 1 long airstone. you know how you can get them in the small size? well you can get bars of them too. I'm sure other people have them too. the bars are better, more disbursement otherwise you just have a shit load of bubbles coming up at one spot. no good unless you have 32423423432 air pumps connected.
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your the greatest!!:mrgreen:
 
asiankatie

asiankatie

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nongreenthumb said:
24/7 all the way through veg, its the only way to travel unless you want to slow down their growth.
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what?! all the way through.. that seems like an awful waste of electricity.

I read somewhere that plants can only take in 18 hrs. I don't know if that's true or not though.. Ill still leave it on 24 for the time being. but I don't know if Ill do it all the way through veg.

I'm having a rotten time figuring out where I would put clones, but that's further down the road.

Gyp said to have them like this (24) for a while, like maybe a week? and then switch to 18/6. That's gonna make my Electric bill insane as it is. CA electricity is tres $$$$

My real problem is I got one of these uber digi timers, and i don't get how to work it, it has all these extras like daylight cycles for astro something... and sunrises and sunsets and places in longitude bla bla. uhg. why can't it just be basic!! it's the only 3 prong one i could find that wasn't for outdoor.
 
nongreenthumb

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asiankatie said:
what?! all the way through.. that seems like an awful waste of electricity.

I read somewhere that plants can only take in 18 hrs. I don't know if that's true or not though.. Ill still leave it on 24 for the time being. but I don't know if Ill do it all the way through veg.

I'm having a rotten time figuring out where I would put clones, but that's further down the road.

Gyp said to have them like this (24) for a while, like maybe a week? and then switch to 18/6. That's gonna make my Electric bill insane as it is. CA electricity is tres $$$$

My real problem is I got one of these uber digi timers, and i don't get how to work it, it has all these extras like daylight cycles for astro something... and sunrises and sunsets and places in longitude bla bla. uhg. why can't it just be basic!! it's the only 3 prong one i could find that wasn't for outdoor.
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Unfortunately though, most people on here only go on what they been told by someone else and unfortunately that is incorrect.

Heres a link to a pdf, at around page 60 theres is an ask ed rosenthal thread where he explains the difference between 18 and 24 hour lighting schedules. You really should read it.

http://www.softsecrets.nl/_public/SSUK2007-03.pdf
 
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Hi just wanna give you my 2 cents.

You won't pay anymore then a extra 20-30 dollars a month for that light. Keep them on 24 hrs a day that way when you switch to 12/12 you'll keep your electric bill steady. I've already calculate it for u, you can use a 250hps light during flower so double the wattage of your current light because its only going to be on 12 hrs instead of 24.

Another thing is that you should go with a 250watt hps lighting because any higher you'll probably heat up that closet and you'll get more problems. CLF just really sucks compare to growing with HID lighting.

Another is have your water lvl up to the netpot but make sure its not saturating the rockwool but the bubbles are splashing inside the hydroton underneath the rockwool, after the roots have burst from the netpot you can lower the water lvl.

Oh yea that digi timer i just got one of those also i was use to their other model which was easier.

Heres how you use it set up the time as you would normally, ignore all the other things just keep pressing plus until you get to the timeset on/off(you'll see a 1 pop up somewhere). That is your First on time so make sure you press day so that it shows all day of the wk, then set your time you want it to turn on, then click on next you;ll see --:-- and a number 2, thats your second program now press day and set all day of the wk and thats your off.

You can have 16 total setting so thats 8 on/off setting. Every odd number is on and even is off, so like 1 is on time, 2 is off.

Sorry yea its pretty confusing hope that helped.
 
asiankatie

asiankatie

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wafflehouselover said:
Hi just wanna give you my 2 cents.

You won't pay anymore then a extra 20-30 dollars a month for that light. Keep them on 24 hrs a day that way when you switch to 12/12 you'll keep your electric bill steady. I've already calculate it for u, you can use a 250hps light during flower so double the wattage of your current light because its only going to be on 12 hrs instead of 24.

Another thing is that you should go with a 250watt hps lighting because any higher you'll probably heat up that closet and you'll get more problems. CLF just really sucks compare to growing with HID lighting.

Another is have your water lvl up to the netpot but make sure its not saturating the rockwool but the bubbles are splashing inside the hydroton underneath the rockwool, after the roots have burst from the netpot you can lower the water lvl.

Oh yea that digi timer i just got one of those also i was use to their other model which was easier.

Heres how you use it set up the time as you would normally, ignore all the other things just keep pressing plus until you get to the timeset on/off(you'll see a 1 pop up somewhere). That is your First on time so make sure you press day so that it shows all day of the wk, then set your time you want it to turn on, then click on next you;ll see --:-- and a number 2, thats your second program now press day and set all day of the wk and thats your off.

You can have 16 total setting so thats 8 on/off setting. Every odd number is on and even is off, so like 1 is on time, 2 is off.

Sorry yea its pretty confusing hope that helped.
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AHHH thank you. as far as electricity goes.. 20-30 dollars. thats what my bill is ANYWAY. you don't think it's gonna look suspicious having it double?! that's crazy. I don't know, we'll see... for now ill leave them like that. but in a week or so, i'll make a more educated decision.

Well, i wanted to keep my MH, and just get a conversion bulb which will actually put it at 150 hps i think. :\ i dunno, GYP said it would prob be enough. well see how they start looking as they get bigger and make the call then. i just don't really want to be spending a whole lot more money just yet. Im super poor and barely afforded what i have @ the moment. I DO have 2 of the same MH lights though, if that's any difference. i just dont know that i could hang both of them in there, theyre pretty heavy and the closet rod thinger isnt the most sturdy thing ever. But like i said, we'll try and just play it by ear for the time being.

The water is doing just that. its about an inch from the bottom of the nets, so with the bubbles as you can see in that picture, it spashes the rocks as you can see the dots of water on the empty container. it doesnt even touch the rocks though, it just splashes them. it's perfect. the one that sprouted first, that is pictured... has a single root coming down. 25 hours! and already. they grow so fast. it's like everyday there's something new.

I think i kinda get what your saying about the digi. but im so deliriously tired right now ill read it in the morning and mess with it. thanks for that <3
 
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