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Oh Goodie! ... More on 911 (inside job) :)
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GrowRebel
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Hi folks ... found this 911 doc ... and guess how much I paid for it ... was steal ... can you guess?
911 shocking documentery
[youtube]v5thLh7UuaM&NR=1[/youtube]
I know how some of you like a bit of info on these videos so here goes ...
Well some of you are not going to like the first minute ... a woman talking to a 911 dispatcher ... very disturbing.
Then they talk about Osama Bin Laden and the FBI not having 911 listed as one of his crimes. When asked why not ... they said because they don't have the evidence ... I wonder why? This part makes note that there was never an investigation into 911.
A man who was in the WTC2 that day gives his account of what happen. When the plane hit the first tower it did damage to the 99-93 floors. That's it.
About 6 minutes into this video some Nobel prize winner ... I can't make out his name ... "Dario?o sounds Italian. Talks about how the buildings were design to handle impact because when the building was hit it moved with the plane ... after impact it went back to its original position why ... because they were specifically design to do so.
911 shocking documentery pt2
[youtube]_1JMQc5piPk&feature=related[/youtube]
In this part the same man who was in WTC2 from the first part continues to give his account of what happen that day. They have another survivor give his account of what happen ... he speaks Spanish ... more disturbing scenes of people jumping from the building.
They talk about the NIST conclusion of why the towers fell.
2:40 the same prize winner comes back stating that the people who designed the buildings said it could handle what happen. "The building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners"
(from Frank D Martini WTC construction manager). 3 minutes in the prize winner talks about the fire in Madrid that burned for 20 hours straight yet it's still standing. It was a way bigger fire than any of the ones in NY.
4:36 Prof. Steven Jones chimes in. He said you can see the smoke was black and the fire dark red indicating the fire was losing oxygen. The prize winner come back and state never the less ... 55 minutes later ... the towers comes crashing down. At the end the prize winner ask if the fires were so hot that they could supposedly melt steel how is it that people who survived that were above the floors were able to come down past those steel melting fires.
911 shocking documentery pt3
[youtube]bp86ZdMkw0o&feature=related[/youtube]
This part WTC2 guy continues his account of what happen.
He said once they got down to the lower floors ... everything was normal ... lights on cool air moving through. They also showed the picture No put up of the woman standing near the hole in the building, to show the fire was not hot enough to melt steel.
One of the "loony" makes a statement ... "It is a non controversial fact that the official explanation of the collapse of the WTC building is false" (Paul Craig Roberts ... Assistant Secretary of Treasury ... under R. Reagan)
They talk about the test UL did ... and Kevin Ryan ... you folks remember him right ... talked about him way back on page 80 post 798. He was fired for revealing the truth. Kevin Ryan himself speak about his findings and how he disproved the "pancake theory". This is about 2 minutes into the video He proves that the temperature was too low to cause steel to melt.
4:40 Another Italian guy who is a metal expert from the Italian Center for Materials Development stating "there was something inexplicable about the speed of the collapse". There was no resistance from the undamaged structure below ... and that is impossible.
6:05 they talk about WTC 7 the prize guy and Steven Jones.
They state all three buildings shared one thing in common ... molten metal.
7:20 video of molten metal pouring from the tower.
7:52 the metal expert comes back and talks about the analysis that was done on a beam from the site. Evidence showed the steel had melted which was impossible because the fire could have only reached 800 degrees, and to melt a steel beam temperatures would have to be around 1600 degrees.
8:40 check it out what they found.
911 shocking documentery pt4
[youtube]bpnXRe7yPb8&NR=1[/youtube]]
Steven Jones talks about his interview with a demolition expert. The expert states that they can use radio control to set off the explosives and they have to be done in a sequence in order to get the building to come rapidly and straight down into it's footprint.
After that they start comparing demos of other buildings next to the collapse of the towers.
Another "loony" states ... :30
"All the characteristics of these collapses show that they must have been controlled demolitions. (William Ch? can't make out ... 29 years with the CIA)
1:00 Jones states that the puff the deniers claim where from the pressure of the floor collapsing is bullshit because it doesn't explain the molten metal.
1:15 A survivor by the name of Jeanette McKinley gives her account of what happen that day. She was the one that gave the dust to Steven Jones. Jones discusses his finding from the dust.
2:50 Prof. David Ray Griffin ...no relation to Peter Griffin ... gives an account of his interviews with the firefighters.
3:32 Janitor WTC worker for 20 years gives his account of what happen. He describes hearing explosions. The WTC 2 guy describes hearing them too.
911 shocking doc part 5
[youtube]M0GIQSovhBQ&feature=related[/youtube]
In this part they talk about the plane that hit the pentagon.
:33 "To expect this alleged airplane to run these maneuvers with a total amateur at the controls is simply ridiculous." (Capt. Russ Wittenberg US Air Force; Pan Am, UA pilot for 30 years.)
1:00 rare footage of what happen after impact.
Capt. Wittenberg give his professional opinion.
2:51 the prize guy talks about the pentagon and the unanswered questions.
Listen very carefully 6 minutes in.
7:20 ... another "loony" makes a statement ...
"With all the evidence readily available at the pentagon crash site any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the pentagon." (Col. George Nelson Aircraft accident investigator US Air Force)
Stay tune for part two of this post.
911 shocking documentery
[youtube]v5thLh7UuaM&NR=1[/youtube]
I know how some of you like a bit of info on these videos so here goes ...
Well some of you are not going to like the first minute ... a woman talking to a 911 dispatcher ... very disturbing.
Then they talk about Osama Bin Laden and the FBI not having 911 listed as one of his crimes. When asked why not ... they said because they don't have the evidence ... I wonder why? This part makes note that there was never an investigation into 911.
A man who was in the WTC2 that day gives his account of what happen. When the plane hit the first tower it did damage to the 99-93 floors. That's it.
About 6 minutes into this video some Nobel prize winner ... I can't make out his name ... "Dario?o sounds Italian. Talks about how the buildings were design to handle impact because when the building was hit it moved with the plane ... after impact it went back to its original position why ... because they were specifically design to do so.
911 shocking documentery pt2
[youtube]_1JMQc5piPk&feature=related[/youtube]
In this part the same man who was in WTC2 from the first part continues to give his account of what happen that day. They have another survivor give his account of what happen ... he speaks Spanish ... more disturbing scenes of people jumping from the building.
They talk about the NIST conclusion of why the towers fell.
2:40 the same prize winner comes back stating that the people who designed the buildings said it could handle what happen. "The building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners"
(from Frank D Martini WTC construction manager). 3 minutes in the prize winner talks about the fire in Madrid that burned for 20 hours straight yet it's still standing. It was a way bigger fire than any of the ones in NY.
4:36 Prof. Steven Jones chimes in. He said you can see the smoke was black and the fire dark red indicating the fire was losing oxygen. The prize winner come back and state never the less ... 55 minutes later ... the towers comes crashing down. At the end the prize winner ask if the fires were so hot that they could supposedly melt steel how is it that people who survived that were above the floors were able to come down past those steel melting fires.
911 shocking documentery pt3
[youtube]bp86ZdMkw0o&feature=related[/youtube]
This part WTC2 guy continues his account of what happen.
He said once they got down to the lower floors ... everything was normal ... lights on cool air moving through. They also showed the picture No put up of the woman standing near the hole in the building, to show the fire was not hot enough to melt steel.
One of the "loony" makes a statement ... "It is a non controversial fact that the official explanation of the collapse of the WTC building is false" (Paul Craig Roberts ... Assistant Secretary of Treasury ... under R. Reagan)
They talk about the test UL did ... and Kevin Ryan ... you folks remember him right ... talked about him way back on page 80 post 798. He was fired for revealing the truth. Kevin Ryan himself speak about his findings and how he disproved the "pancake theory". This is about 2 minutes into the video He proves that the temperature was too low to cause steel to melt.
4:40 Another Italian guy who is a metal expert from the Italian Center for Materials Development stating "there was something inexplicable about the speed of the collapse". There was no resistance from the undamaged structure below ... and that is impossible.
6:05 they talk about WTC 7 the prize guy and Steven Jones.
They state all three buildings shared one thing in common ... molten metal.
7:20 video of molten metal pouring from the tower.
7:52 the metal expert comes back and talks about the analysis that was done on a beam from the site. Evidence showed the steel had melted which was impossible because the fire could have only reached 800 degrees, and to melt a steel beam temperatures would have to be around 1600 degrees.
8:40 check it out what they found.
911 shocking documentery pt4
[youtube]bpnXRe7yPb8&NR=1[/youtube]]
Steven Jones talks about his interview with a demolition expert. The expert states that they can use radio control to set off the explosives and they have to be done in a sequence in order to get the building to come rapidly and straight down into it's footprint.
After that they start comparing demos of other buildings next to the collapse of the towers.
Another "loony" states ... :30
"All the characteristics of these collapses show that they must have been controlled demolitions. (William Ch? can't make out ... 29 years with the CIA)
1:00 Jones states that the puff the deniers claim where from the pressure of the floor collapsing is bullshit because it doesn't explain the molten metal.
1:15 A survivor by the name of Jeanette McKinley gives her account of what happen that day. She was the one that gave the dust to Steven Jones. Jones discusses his finding from the dust.
2:50 Prof. David Ray Griffin ...no relation to Peter Griffin ... gives an account of his interviews with the firefighters.
3:32 Janitor WTC worker for 20 years gives his account of what happen. He describes hearing explosions. The WTC 2 guy describes hearing them too.
911 shocking doc part 5
[youtube]M0GIQSovhBQ&feature=related[/youtube]
In this part they talk about the plane that hit the pentagon.
:33 "To expect this alleged airplane to run these maneuvers with a total amateur at the controls is simply ridiculous." (Capt. Russ Wittenberg US Air Force; Pan Am, UA pilot for 30 years.)
1:00 rare footage of what happen after impact.
Capt. Wittenberg give his professional opinion.
2:51 the prize guy talks about the pentagon and the unanswered questions.
Listen very carefully 6 minutes in.
7:20 ... another "loony" makes a statement ...
"With all the evidence readily available at the pentagon crash site any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the pentagon." (Col. George Nelson Aircraft accident investigator US Air Force)
Stay tune for part two of this post.
CrackerJax
New Member
Quantity over quality eh?
Okay here, is some real quality....
What al-Qaeda says about 9/11
The purveyors of conspiracy theories concerning the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington on 11th September 2001 try to claim that al-Qaeda was a scapegoat for false flag atrocities committed by the US government against its own people. One would assume that were this to be true, al-Qaedas own leaders and spokesmen would be quick to deny their responsibility for a barbaric act which was condemned by Quranic scholars as a violation of the tenets of Islam, and which actually caused considerable outrage in the Muslim world.
Unfortunately for the Truthers, this isnt happening.
Conspiracy theorists are quick to allege that statements attributed to Osama bin Laden are faked. What they are not prepared to admit is that it is not only bin Laden and his co-leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, who readily acknowledge their responsibility for - and pride in - 9/11, but a number of lower-level figures who do the same, not just in public statements released via al-Jazeera, but in messages and treatises circulated online between al-Qaeda activists and their affiliates.
This article discusses al-Qaedas own internal strategic debates in detail, and also includes quotes from ideologists and senior terrorists within this group on 9/11. They are worth noting in full:
The power and significance of the raid on the US enemy lay not only in the loss of life and property, but also in the political message that the raid sent to the freedom-loving downtrodden who yearn for freedom, dignity and pride It was unexpected and unimaginable. It struck a sudden blow at the [USA] from an unexpected direction .
Al-Qaida took the enemy by surprise with the raids on New York and Washington. Roles were reversed, and the enemy was thrown into confusion by the event. He was left looking for explanations, a prisoner of his reactions. The mujahidin were in motion, moving the battle along, a powerful factor in their favor (sic). This is the secret of the United States fear of al-Qaida. Al Qaida has hit on the correct method for fighting and defeating the Americans, God willing.
Abu Ayman al-Hilali, The Real Story of the Raids on New York and Washington, in Essays on the September 11th Raid (2002). al-Hilali (to use his nom de guerre) is a senior al-Qaeda leader and ideologist. More on him here.
[The 9/11 attacks] put fear in the hearts of Americans everywhere. Warnings of impending jihad attacks have taken a murderous toll on the nerves of the US masses, who do not understand why their vast military apparatus has failed to stop these attacks
The cameras of CNN and other Western media dinosaurs undertook the task of filming the raid and sowing fear in its aftermath. It didnt cost Al-Qaida a cent.
Abu Ubayd al-Qirshi, The 11th September Raid: The impossible becomes possible, in Essays on the September 11th Raid. al-Qirshi is another senior al-Qaeda strategists, see here for more.
Our ultimate objective of these painful strikes against the head of the serpent was to prompt it to come out of its hole. This would make it easier for us to deal consecutive blows to undermine it and tear it apart. It would foster our credibility in front of our nation and the beleaguered people of the world. A person will react randomly when he receives painful strikes on his head from an undisclosed enemy. Such strikes will force the person to carry out random acts and provoke him to make serious and sometimes fatal mistakes. This was what actually happened.
Sayf al-Adl, an al-Qaeda military commander, in Peter Bergen, The Osama bin Landen I Know: An Oral History of Al-Qaedas Leader (NY: Free Press 2006), p.309. More on him here.
It is an excellent strategic surprise. The American intelligence services were caught by a surprise (sic) that they had not considered It is a surprise that had results. This surprise led to a shock in the American consciousness [and] lead to a radical change in the perception of American Security.
Mohammad Khalil al-Hakaymah (AKA Mohammad Hasan Khalil al-Hakim, or Abu Jihad al-Masri), The Myth of Delusion: Exposing the American Intelligence. al-Hakaymah is an al-Qaeda commander who is said to have been killed in a US Predator strike in Pakistan on 31st October 2008. More on him here.
I could go on, but nothing more needs to be said. Despite the lies peddled by the misnamed truth movement, al-Qaedas message about 9/11 is clear and consistent - We did it, and we are proud of it. The attempts by increasingly deranged conspiracy theorists to claim otherwise therefore not only lack any credibility, but also leave the Truthers open to ridicule.
OUCH!!!!! Straight from the horses mouth.
Okay here, is some real quality....
What al-Qaeda says about 9/11
The purveyors of conspiracy theories concerning the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington on 11th September 2001 try to claim that al-Qaeda was a scapegoat for false flag atrocities committed by the US government against its own people. One would assume that were this to be true, al-Qaedas own leaders and spokesmen would be quick to deny their responsibility for a barbaric act which was condemned by Quranic scholars as a violation of the tenets of Islam, and which actually caused considerable outrage in the Muslim world.
Unfortunately for the Truthers, this isnt happening.
Conspiracy theorists are quick to allege that statements attributed to Osama bin Laden are faked. What they are not prepared to admit is that it is not only bin Laden and his co-leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, who readily acknowledge their responsibility for - and pride in - 9/11, but a number of lower-level figures who do the same, not just in public statements released via al-Jazeera, but in messages and treatises circulated online between al-Qaeda activists and their affiliates.
This article discusses al-Qaedas own internal strategic debates in detail, and also includes quotes from ideologists and senior terrorists within this group on 9/11. They are worth noting in full:
The power and significance of the raid on the US enemy lay not only in the loss of life and property, but also in the political message that the raid sent to the freedom-loving downtrodden who yearn for freedom, dignity and pride It was unexpected and unimaginable. It struck a sudden blow at the [USA] from an unexpected direction .
Al-Qaida took the enemy by surprise with the raids on New York and Washington. Roles were reversed, and the enemy was thrown into confusion by the event. He was left looking for explanations, a prisoner of his reactions. The mujahidin were in motion, moving the battle along, a powerful factor in their favor (sic). This is the secret of the United States fear of al-Qaida. Al Qaida has hit on the correct method for fighting and defeating the Americans, God willing.
Abu Ayman al-Hilali, The Real Story of the Raids on New York and Washington, in Essays on the September 11th Raid (2002). al-Hilali (to use his nom de guerre) is a senior al-Qaeda leader and ideologist. More on him here.
[The 9/11 attacks] put fear in the hearts of Americans everywhere. Warnings of impending jihad attacks have taken a murderous toll on the nerves of the US masses, who do not understand why their vast military apparatus has failed to stop these attacks
The cameras of CNN and other Western media dinosaurs undertook the task of filming the raid and sowing fear in its aftermath. It didnt cost Al-Qaida a cent.
Abu Ubayd al-Qirshi, The 11th September Raid: The impossible becomes possible, in Essays on the September 11th Raid. al-Qirshi is another senior al-Qaeda strategists, see here for more.
Our ultimate objective of these painful strikes against the head of the serpent was to prompt it to come out of its hole. This would make it easier for us to deal consecutive blows to undermine it and tear it apart. It would foster our credibility in front of our nation and the beleaguered people of the world. A person will react randomly when he receives painful strikes on his head from an undisclosed enemy. Such strikes will force the person to carry out random acts and provoke him to make serious and sometimes fatal mistakes. This was what actually happened.
Sayf al-Adl, an al-Qaeda military commander, in Peter Bergen, The Osama bin Landen I Know: An Oral History of Al-Qaedas Leader (NY: Free Press 2006), p.309. More on him here.
It is an excellent strategic surprise. The American intelligence services were caught by a surprise (sic) that they had not considered It is a surprise that had results. This surprise led to a shock in the American consciousness [and] lead to a radical change in the perception of American Security.
Mohammad Khalil al-Hakaymah (AKA Mohammad Hasan Khalil al-Hakim, or Abu Jihad al-Masri), The Myth of Delusion: Exposing the American Intelligence. al-Hakaymah is an al-Qaeda commander who is said to have been killed in a US Predator strike in Pakistan on 31st October 2008. More on him here.
I could go on, but nothing more needs to be said. Despite the lies peddled by the misnamed truth movement, al-Qaedas message about 9/11 is clear and consistent - We did it, and we are proud of it. The attempts by increasingly deranged conspiracy theorists to claim otherwise therefore not only lack any credibility, but also leave the Truthers open to ridicule.
OUCH!!!!! Straight from the horses mouth.
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PadawanBater
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Apparently nobody on the planet has ever taken credit for something that they didnt' do... I mean, that's totally never happened throughout history..ever!
..need I make you a list CrackerJax?
..need I make you a list CrackerJax?
CrackerJax
New Member
Right? It's a conspiracy within a conspiracy.
heck anyone who disagrees with the conspiracy...is IN on the conspiracy!!!
WOW, I FINALLY TAPPED INTO GROWREBELS LOGIC BASE...IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW...
heck anyone who disagrees with the conspiracy...is IN on the conspiracy!!!
WOW, I FINALLY TAPPED INTO GROWREBELS LOGIC BASE...IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW...
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PadawanBater
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Do you think the LIHOP theory is completely out of the question CJ?
Do you think certain people within the government had a lot to gain through an invasion of the middle east and pushed for it at all costs, including lying about evidence to gain support for the invasion, and showing extreme incompetence that was subsequently rewarded? Or do you think it is just a big coincidence that those same certain people who happened to push for invasion int he beginning ended up making the most money from their role in the entire mess?
Do you think certain people within the government had a lot to gain through an invasion of the middle east and pushed for it at all costs, including lying about evidence to gain support for the invasion, and showing extreme incompetence that was subsequently rewarded? Or do you think it is just a big coincidence that those same certain people who happened to push for invasion int he beginning ended up making the most money from their role in the entire mess?
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Keenly
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do you even know what the word conspiracy means....?Right? It's a conspiracy within a conspiracy.
heck anyone who disagrees with the conspiracy...is IN on the conspiracy!!!
WOW, I FINALLY TAPPED INTO GROWREBELS LOGIC BASE...IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW...
an agreement between 2 or more people to do something illegal....
CrackerJax
New Member
Right...so CONGRATULATIONS!!! Everything is a conspiracy and nothing can be unproven.... NOW WHAT...... your solution would be a CONSPIRACY.... I can see the youtube now.
I can see the youtube now.
what... huh?
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LIhop is much more feasible... but I think I explained the most likely scenario.
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PadawanBater
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Which page, I'll take a look?
GrowRebel
Well-Known Member
911 shocking documentary pt 6
[youtube]CA8Ru71vyvA&NR=1[/youtube]
This part talks about NORAD ... a pilot was order to fly out and check out the damage ... very last part of 5 beginning of 6.
:10 statement made by another "loony" can't make out the whole name looks like a Lt. Col Karen something.
"No airplane metal or cargo debris was blowing on the lawn what we expected to see was not evident."
86 video tapes of the surrounding area were confiscated by the pentagon. In 2006 the freedom of information act force the pentagon to release some videos which are shown in the documentary.
Capt. Wittemberg gives his opinion.
The prize guy is back again with his analysis. He state it's impossible for the plane to make the turn it did at 800 Km per hour.
3:36 a Robin Hordon flight controller at Boston Center for 11 years, and flight instructor states the maneuver is impossible. A 757 is not design to do what that plane supposedly did according to Mr. Hordon.
4:22 another "loony" statement ...The speed, the maneuverability, the way that it turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experience air traffic controllers, that, that was a military plane". (Danelle O'Brien air traffic controller from Dallas airport).
4:30 prize guy again. Gives analysis.
5:28 another "loony" statement
"I challenge any pilot, any pilot anywhere. Give him a Boeing 757 and tell him to do 400 knots 20 feet above the ground for a half a mile. CAN'T DO. It's aerodynamically impossible"
(Can't make out his name, but he is a pilot and a astronautical engineer.)
Capt. Wittemberg and the prize guy states that the so called terrorist who supposedly flew the plane didn't have the experience, as stated by his instructor ... "he was a terrible pilot" he couldn't handle a Cesna 172.
6:40 prize guy ask how were they able to penetrate the most protected air space in the world ... which was one of my questions ... we all remember the dumb answer WH gave. Contrary to what WH stated they talk about the air space as being restricted around the WH and the pentagon 7:00 in. They call it "P56". No unknown aircraft can go through there.
8:00 describes all the defense in place at the time yet none responded.
a Barbara Honegger, senior journalist, US Defense Department ask a good question. Why didn't the pentagons anti aircraft missiles fire on the craft? After all it's the most heavily protect building on the planet. Pay close attention to the last minute and a half of this part. Civilian planes don't have an IFF transponder.
911 shocking document pt 7
[youtube]D2Wl-NHB5o0&feature=related[/youtube]
Gore Vidal is in this part ... giving his opinion.
A pilot gives facts of what happens between the pilot and ATC. So people we know to be pilots give their view on what happened. Pay attention at 1:20.
2:15 prize guy states what we want.
3:10 Gore Vidal states that the one question they could not get the Air Force and NORAD to answer is why didn't the pilots go up automatically when the first planes were found to be hijacked? Same question I asked. Of course WH gave a lame excuse that didn't address the issue.
3:14 Pilot Robert Bowman decorated Viet Nam vet describes what happen when a plane goes off course ... contrary to what WH tried to spew out. This completely blow his bullshit out of the water.
4:45 French pilots describes how long it takes to scramble and what the planes are capable of doing. Those jet had plenty of time to intercept and stop those planes.
5:15 16 bases were in the area ... 911 official report: Air Defense had been notified late by the civil aviation FAA" ... yeah ... right ...
5:30 Listen to what Mr. Hordon has to say about the FAA.
6:10 John Judge talks about air emergency and procedures. No order is needed to shoot down a plane. It's not an option according to Gore Vidal ... the plane must be shot down ... unless they are given an order to stand down.
7:15 protocol is discussed. Pay extremely close attention at 8:00.
911 shocking documentery pt 8
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In this part Mr. Horton talks about the pentagon shifting protocol gears before and after 911.
1:00 listen to a Lella Costa describe what happen after Peal Harbor opposes to what happen after 911 ... listen carefully now. How much you want a bet the deniers can't explain ... well valid rational explanations ...
1:35 the low down on the military commanders on that day. Pay real close attention to this shit. Then lets see some of you denier explain ... we all know you can't ... so don't worry about it.
3:15 they start talking about the hijackers. An interesting comment ... the Lockerbie plane crash took 2 years to get enough evidence together, but the FBI did it in one day. They questions how steel could molten yet paper survived.
Mohmmand Atta is discussed.
911 shocking doc pt 9
[youtube]QFHbh_GmYfM&feature=related[/youtube]
In this part they continue their discussion of the Atta and how things just don't add up concerning the hijackers.
Pay particular attention to flight times and time windows.
There is no evidence at all that these people the government claimed were the hijackers were on those planes at all.
1:50 Check it a couple of the so called hijackers a Mr. Al-Ghamd Ahmed Al-Nami shows up after 911 to protest the false accusation they were one of the hijackers. Both alive a well and pilots for Sandi Arabia Airlines. A third hijackers that was on the FBI list that was killed on flight 77 showed up alive in a CBS report working at an oil refinery.
5:00 the fake Bin Laden video is discussed.
6:00 pay close attention to what the woman is saying about the translations.
8:00 real Bin Laden photos are compared to the fake photos and videos of Bin Laden put out by the US.
911 shocking doc pt 10
[youtube]Y5Ut5I7pa8Q&feature=related[/youtube]
The fake Al-Qaeda is discussed.
911 shocking doc pt 11
[youtube]xfZoOb7VVkY&feature=related[/youtube]
How the investigation was obstructed ...
Whistle blower Coleen Rowley of the FBI speaks as well. Ashcroft and Rumsfeld didn't want to know anything about terrorism back in August of 2001.
911 shocking doc the end
[youtube]e2M_prRX0mA&feature=related[/youtube]
Talks about all the warning that were given to the war criminals that were ignored.
One of the parents of the 911 murder victims speaks out.
This documentary ... that I paid lots of doe for by the way ...
pretty much goes over a lot of evidence concerning 911. If you have the time and you are one of those people that buy the bullshit story, take a look at this expensive documentary and say that you still buy the government bullshit.
Once again concrete evidence that 911 was an inside job. I've said it once I'll say it again ... you have to be a complete and total idiot to buy the governments bullshit.
[youtube]CA8Ru71vyvA&NR=1[/youtube]
This part talks about NORAD ... a pilot was order to fly out and check out the damage ... very last part of 5 beginning of 6.
:10 statement made by another "loony" can't make out the whole name looks like a Lt. Col Karen something.
"No airplane metal or cargo debris was blowing on the lawn what we expected to see was not evident."
86 video tapes of the surrounding area were confiscated by the pentagon. In 2006 the freedom of information act force the pentagon to release some videos which are shown in the documentary.
Capt. Wittemberg gives his opinion.
The prize guy is back again with his analysis. He state it's impossible for the plane to make the turn it did at 800 Km per hour.
3:36 a Robin Hordon flight controller at Boston Center for 11 years, and flight instructor states the maneuver is impossible. A 757 is not design to do what that plane supposedly did according to Mr. Hordon.
4:22 another "loony" statement ...The speed, the maneuverability, the way that it turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experience air traffic controllers, that, that was a military plane". (Danelle O'Brien air traffic controller from Dallas airport).
4:30 prize guy again. Gives analysis.
5:28 another "loony" statement
"I challenge any pilot, any pilot anywhere. Give him a Boeing 757 and tell him to do 400 knots 20 feet above the ground for a half a mile. CAN'T DO. It's aerodynamically impossible"
(Can't make out his name, but he is a pilot and a astronautical engineer.)
Capt. Wittemberg and the prize guy states that the so called terrorist who supposedly flew the plane didn't have the experience, as stated by his instructor ... "he was a terrible pilot" he couldn't handle a Cesna 172.
6:40 prize guy ask how were they able to penetrate the most protected air space in the world ... which was one of my questions ... we all remember the dumb answer WH gave.
Contrary to what WH stated they talk about the air space as being restricted around the WH and the pentagon 7:00 in. They call it "P56". No unknown aircraft can go through there.8:00 describes all the defense in place at the time yet none responded.
a Barbara Honegger, senior journalist, US Defense Department ask a good question. Why didn't the pentagons anti aircraft missiles fire on the craft? After all it's the most heavily protect building on the planet. Pay close attention to the last minute and a half of this part. Civilian planes don't have an IFF transponder.
911 shocking document pt 7
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Gore Vidal is in this part ... giving his opinion.
A pilot gives facts of what happens between the pilot and ATC. So people we know to be pilots give their view on what happened. Pay attention at 1:20.
2:15 prize guy states what we want.
3:10 Gore Vidal states that the one question they could not get the Air Force and NORAD to answer is why didn't the pilots go up automatically when the first planes were found to be hijacked? Same question I asked. Of course WH gave a lame excuse that didn't address the issue.
3:14 Pilot Robert Bowman decorated Viet Nam vet describes what happen when a plane goes off course ... contrary to what WH tried to spew out. This completely blow his bullshit out of the water.
4:45 French pilots describes how long it takes to scramble and what the planes are capable of doing. Those jet had plenty of time to intercept and stop those planes.
5:15 16 bases were in the area ... 911 official report: Air Defense had been notified late by the civil aviation FAA" ... yeah ... right ...
5:30 Listen to what Mr. Hordon has to say about the FAA.
6:10 John Judge talks about air emergency and procedures. No order is needed to shoot down a plane. It's not an option according to Gore Vidal ... the plane must be shot down ... unless they are given an order to stand down.
7:15 protocol is discussed. Pay extremely close attention at 8:00.
911 shocking documentery pt 8
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In this part Mr. Horton talks about the pentagon shifting protocol gears before and after 911.
1:00 listen to a Lella Costa describe what happen after Peal Harbor opposes to what happen after 911 ... listen carefully now. How much you want a bet the deniers can't explain ... well valid rational explanations ...
1:35 the low down on the military commanders on that day. Pay real close attention to this shit. Then lets see some of you denier explain ... we all know you can't ... so don't worry about it.
3:15 they start talking about the hijackers. An interesting comment ... the Lockerbie plane crash took 2 years to get enough evidence together, but the FBI did it in one day. They questions how steel could molten yet paper survived.
Mohmmand Atta is discussed.
911 shocking doc pt 9
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In this part they continue their discussion of the Atta and how things just don't add up concerning the hijackers.
Pay particular attention to flight times and time windows.
There is no evidence at all that these people the government claimed were the hijackers were on those planes at all.
1:50 Check it a couple of the so called hijackers a Mr. Al-Ghamd Ahmed Al-Nami shows up after 911 to protest the false accusation they were one of the hijackers. Both alive a well and pilots for Sandi Arabia Airlines. A third hijackers that was on the FBI list that was killed on flight 77 showed up alive in a CBS report working at an oil refinery.
5:00 the fake Bin Laden video is discussed.
6:00 pay close attention to what the woman is saying about the translations.
8:00 real Bin Laden photos are compared to the fake photos and videos of Bin Laden put out by the US.
911 shocking doc pt 10
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The fake Al-Qaeda is discussed.
911 shocking doc pt 11
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How the investigation was obstructed ...
Whistle blower Coleen Rowley of the FBI speaks as well. Ashcroft and Rumsfeld didn't want to know anything about terrorism back in August of 2001.
911 shocking doc the end
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Talks about all the warning that were given to the war criminals that were ignored.
One of the parents of the 911 murder victims speaks out.
This documentary ... that I paid lots of doe for by the way ...
pretty much goes over a lot of evidence concerning 911. If you have the time and you are one of those people that buy the bullshit story, take a look at this expensive documentary and say that you still buy the government bullshit.Once again concrete evidence that 911 was an inside job. I've said it once I'll say it again ... you have to be a complete and total idiot to buy the governments bullshit.
CrackerJax
New Member
Would you like me to embarrass you and post how much money is being made off of Zeitgeist? It's a business.....wake up.
Pretty much every Arab thinks you full of it too... They are IN on it!!!! lawdy
Pretty much every Arab thinks you full of it too...
They are IN on it!!!! lawdy
The Warlord
Well-Known Member
If you guys REALLY believe this shit you need to get off your ass sitting at a computer crying about it go to your closet and retrieve your rifle and head for washington cause you got an evil government to overthrow......lmao.!
CrackerJax
New Member
Shhhh, they are in their bunker right now at ground zero. let's see if we can listen in......... (faint music of Milli Vanilli can be heard through the concrete.)
GrowRebel
Well-Known Member
You mean your name is cracker jackass? As usual nothing to dispute the facts other than blowing it out your ass.
Ah yes we all know how easily amused you are especially since some of the pressure of being made a fool of is taken off.
Do you really expect up to take an op ed from some asshole as Bin Laden's words? Nothing gives proof of an authentic message from Bin Laden. We are expected to take them at their word. Must be the same place that make you think we should take you at your word. Man ... you really are good at spewing worthless shit. Straight from the horses mouth! Bwaa ha ha ha. The 9th part of the documentary blow that shit clean away.
CrackerJax
New Member
I can get you the direct interview with the high ranking Al queda official if you wish.... Like I said, the rest of the world is laughing at you....most certainly it is pissing off the Arabs to no end since it was one of their very very few victories. You are raining on their parade. I agree.
GrowRebel
Well-Known Member
It won't embarrass me ... I didn't buy it ... anyone else reading this thread buy a copy of "Zeitgeist"? Come forward and help this dummy out.
Oh and the Arab think I'm full of shit ... where did they say that? Who said they were in on it? Caught once again making shit up ... I guess you just can't help yourself.
GrowRebel
Well-Known Member
That don't mean shit ... the government is always saying they got shit from "high ranking Al-Qaeda officials" ... it's a lie. But none the less post it so I can prove it's bullshit.
Yeah, yeah ... we all know what you say, and we all know you're full of shit, because we don't believe anything you say, yet you can't produce anything to prove the world is laughing at me. You just keep blowing shit out your ass. You deniers are easily made a fool of.
Blowing more shit out your ass ... of course you can't prove it but I guess it's one of those things you claim is a fact because you say so .... NOT. Bwaa ha ha ha ... made a fool of again. Man this is fun!
jrh72582
Well-Known Member
Wow - take a gander at what you wrote. You assume ALL Arabs took delight in 9/11, basically calling all Muslims terrorists and suggest that ALL Muslims worldwide have 'very very few victories', which is horribly pretentious.
So tell me, why do you think so negatively of Arabs? Are you this prejudiced in other areas of your life? Hmmmm.....
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