Plant Moisture Stress - Symptoms and Solutions

orzz

orzz

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ronin673 said:
What does a toddler have to do to get a question answered around here?
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Be patient young one. Sometimes it takes a couple days to get an answer or more.

some things to remember ....

  • be sure to post in the appropriate place for your question
  • You won't get much advice if your questions are not complete
  • questions about plants .... give us some pics, some info on nutes, lighting, temp, pH, ppm/EC, etc
  • do some searching on the forums before asking questions
  • people don't get paid to answer questions on this forum
  • our own op's may be demanding our attention
  • we have a life and may be living it.
So be patient :joint:.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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ronin673 said:
What does a toddler have to do to get a question answered around here?
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I've been very busy....... now to answer your question, molasses or any kind of sugar stuff is useless. You're assuming that carbs applied by a grower is of value just because it's parroted in a cannabis forum. It is not. Plants manufacturer their own simple and complex carbos, they don't need exterior applications.

Rainwater is excellent used as a soil drench, it contains nitrates and microbes. Learning what makes a plant tick is what growing is all about, not toddler stuff like "It's just 8 oz of purified water that has 2 small boxes of rasins that has been soaking in it." And for the record, raisins are acidic, not alkaline. They contain mainly malic and tartaric acid FWIW. If you need to reduce the pH of your soil, use powdered sulfur, aluminum sulfate, or peat moss. Grow pot like you would a tomato plant, and not with all the crap you hear and read about in cannabis forums.

Save the raisins for your cereal. :D

BTW, for the lurkers (visitor messages) writing me I'm not ignoring you, I technically can not make a reply in the "Visitors" section. When I click on your post it redirects me to my profile for some strange reason. Feel free to send me a PM instead.

Well said orzz, thanks.

Uncle Ben
 
Katatawnic

Katatawnic

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UB didn't get to the questions I'd posted a few weeks ago. I figured he was busy, not blowing off my issue. While I patiently awaited his response, I searched the RIU forums as well as Googling my problem, and between the answers I found and some simple common sense, my problem was fixed.

While spamming the forums with the same question over and over is extremely rude and disruptive to the rest of the forum users, waiting around for one person to answer your questions isn't wise. Hence, post your questions in the hopes of someone else having (and sharing) the knowledge you seek, but while awaiting a reply.... do your research!!! :mrgreen:

Uncle Ben said:
Grow pot like you would a tomato plant, and not with all the crap you hear and read about in cannabis forums.
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Indeed UB, indeed! :hump:
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Katatawnic said:
UB didn't get to the questions I'd posted a few weeks ago. I figured he was busy, not blowing off my issue. While I patiently awaited his response, I searched the RIU forums as well as Googling my problem, and between the answers I found and some simple common sense, my problem was fixed.

While spamming the forums with the same question over and over is extremely rude and disruptive to the rest of the forum users, waiting around for one person to answer your questions isn't wise. Hence, post your questions in the hopes of someone else having (and sharing) the knowledge you seek, but while awaiting a reply.... do your research!!! :mrgreen:



Indeed UB, indeed! :hump:
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Yeah, I'm not here to be someone's nanny nor teach the basics of what makes a plant tick, that is the grower's job. If you don't know the basics of plant culture, then you need to do some research. The reason why I wrote this ditty is because everyone seems to repeat their moisture stress issue over and over again in some form and fashion, but even then, with a pinnned thread at the top, folks are gonna do the lazy thing and ask the same ol tired questions, "Help, my leaves are curling, what do I do!"

Please do not ask me what mulch is or where you can get the many forums it comes in, do your homework. If you're under the age of 18, then please do not ask for my help as I don't condone youth prematurely burning their brain cells. There's plenty of time for all that. :D

Katatawnic, glad you got your questions answered. I may have overlooked the post, don't know. Sorry bro.

Make it a great day,
UB
 
Katatawnic

Katatawnic

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Uncle Ben said:
Yeah, I'm not here to be someone's nanny nor teach the basics of what makes a plant tick, that is the grower's job. If you don't know the basics of plant culture, then you need to do some research.
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Absolutely! :hump:

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I'm thankful for the availability of info here at RIU, but IMNSHO the Age of Information has brought on a new wave of laziness. Instead of searching for info, all too many people expect it to be handed to them on a silver platter. (I'm not referring to anyone in particular. Rather, people in general.) Perhaps I'm just old enough :lol: to remember needing to go to the library, searching for what I needed in the card catalogues (yep, B.C.: Before Computers!), then going from one end of the library to the other in search of the books the card catalogue referred me to, most likely only to be referred to yet more books.... ad nauseum! Compare all of that to typing some keywords into a text box at a search engine right here on my laptop, and researching on my own just doesn't seem like such a chore. Obtaining information is so much easier nowadays, but we still need to look for it rather than expecting others to do it for us while we sit on our lazy asses eating "magic" bon bons! I'm sure that I can count on my fingers how many questions I've posted here at RIU, and all but one weren't "issue-related" but instead just curious about others' opinions. Even with the "emergency" I had earlier this month, I researched and used common sense instead of just posting my problem and expecting for others to hand-feed me the solutions. I wasn't about to sit here and let my plants die while waiting for someone else to swoop in and save my plants for me! I'm not trying to come off as "better" than anyone else; just pointing out (as many others have and do) that it's much less difficult to research and tackle a problem than it is to wait until others have the time to answer (much less opportunity to read) questions that are already answered at least 99.9% of the time.
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Katatawnic, glad you got your questions answered. I may have overlooked the post, don't know. Sorry bro.
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NP at all, UB! :D I'm sure you just missed my post, because you didn't reply to this thread for close to a week afterwards. However (again), I wasn't going to sit here and wait for someone (anyone) to get back to me; so I researched what I didn't know and applied what I already knew from gardening most of my life. (Not MJ until the last few months, but plants is plants when it comes down to the basics!) Long story short, I had a pythium outbreak. Hydro in the So. CA desert just isn't feasible if you don't have a house with central air instead of evaporative coolers. I got the pythium under control with H2O2, daily draining/sterilizing/refilling of the reservoir, trimming off dead/infected roots, ETC.! But it was a horrific battle to keep the reservoir temps down, so on the 17th I switched to soil. Now everything's going wonderfully. I figured I'd switch back to hydro after the weather cools down again and/or when we buy our house and have a better environment for temperature control, but I think I'm sticking with soil for good! :mrgreen: ANYHOOO, do these look like five week old plants that had a fairly bad pythium outbreak and underwent stress from constant handling for cleaning, trimming, and transplanting? :clap: Oh, and I'm a sis, not a bro. :lol: ;)
 

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Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Katatawnic said:
ANYHOOO, do these look like five week old plants that had a fairly bad pythium outbreak and underwent stress from constant handling for cleaning, trimming, and transplanting? :clap: Oh, and I'm a sis, not a bro. :lol: ;)
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Hey sis, they's lookin' good! Healthy, green - that's what it's all about.

My only comment is to watch for an overwatering situation as they are rather small compared to pot size, all depends on soil structure. But, once those roots start filling out the pot and foliage doubles in size in a week, it won't be an issue.

Pythium spores (damping-off) can be controlled with simple sanitation and cultural measures.

Grow hard,
UB
 
Katatawnic

Katatawnic

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Uncle Ben said:
Hey sis, they's lookin' good! Healthy, green - that's what it's all about.

My only comment is to watch for an overwatering situation as they are rather small compared to pot size, all depends on soil structure. But, once those roots start filling out the pot and foliage doubles in size in a week, it won't be an issue.

Pythium spores (damping-off) can be controlled with simple sanitation and cultural measures.

Grow hard,
UB
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YAY, Uncle Ben complimenting one's plants is quite the compliment! :clap: Nah, not kissing up, I just respect your knowledge and no-nonsense common sense. ;) You know I was teasing about the "sis" thing, right? It's to be generally assumed that the majority of RIU members, especially the growers, are male. :mrgreen:

Yeah, I had the sanitation part down easy. (My grow "room" is the only room in my house that's to be considered "hospital" sanitary! lol) Once the summer's heat wave finally kicked in, that was it. Too hot to control reservoir temps. Screw hydro, soil is much less work and the environment is easier to control. I'll take ease and quality over faster growth any day! :hump:

Thankfully I'm aware of when to water and when not to water. I see overwatering a very common problem with gardening. My plants have been in soil for ten days now, and today was the first time they needed watering since the transplant. Right now it takes less than one gallon to water all four plants and both seedlings.... with feeding every two-to-three waterings, I'll be saving money on nutrients in soil vs. hydro, too! (That's how I've always fed my plants: every two-to-three waterings. Should it be different with MJ, or no? So far they've only had a small amount of rooting hormones when I transplanted, and they're flourishing which leads me to believe that I don't need to feed more often than every three waterings at this point.)

They're already on their way to doubling in size in a week! Four days' apart, and there's undeniably been a return of rapid growth. My son was visiting yesterday, and was shocked to hear all the stress they'd been through just over a week ago.

Thanks again for all the advice you so freely offer to others, UB! Quite a lot of what I've learned about MJ growing has been from following your posts. I hope that one day I can provide as much help as you do now. Pay it forward and all that jazz! :D

~~ Kat ~~
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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ronin673 said:
Thanks UB, I was not attempting to ape any posted info, just asking for clarification. By the way, Raisins are Alkaline FWIW http://www.essense-of-life.com/moreinfo/foodcharts.htm :)
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Are you ingesting raisins or using it on your plants? I don't care what the impact might be on the human body as hawked by some off the wall wacked out, "essence of life" holistic crap website.

Raisins contain 2 organic acids - malic and tartaric plus a few minor acids and therefore will have an acidic value with a pH meter when steeped in water. Not that I care other than for the sake of discussion.

Enjoy your "health" foods,
UB
 
bigsourD

bigsourD

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Okay, i need some advice. I have 4 white widow plants 2weeks of age. I started them in sphagnum/peat moss mix and added some perlite for aeriation (good or bad?). Basically i've followed all of the procedures on this site. I have them under 4 75 watt tublular florescent bulbs 24 hours a day atm and have been growing spectacular until now. Yesterday i noticed the leaves have started to turn upwards and curl down, and now one of them is starting to fall over. I usually water every 2-3 days. Maybe they are deprived of nutrients? I'm afraid to do more harm than good by adding nutrients in this state or is that ok? I have Humboldt Nutrients Natural Grow (3-1-3) and Bloom (0-10-0). The temp usually stays around 73-79 far. Any suggestions?
 
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BudMastaPhil

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Hey im Actualy having a problem that seem to be in between a few of your simptoms. this one plant isent draining the water out of its soil normaly and it seem like its taking a lighter yellow ish colour on the leaves some of the lower leafs are turning yeallow and i need sum tips cause time's running out and hopefully that can be changed
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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bigsourD said:
Okay, i need some advice. I have 4 white widow plants 2weeks of age. I started them in sphagnum/peat moss mix and added some perlite for aeriation (good or bad?). Basically i've followed all of the procedures on this site. I have them under 4 75 watt tublular florescent bulbs 24 hours a day atm and have been growing spectacular until now. Yesterday i noticed the leaves have started to turn upwards and curl down, and now one of them is starting to fall over.
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Could be a few things - too little light, too much salts.

Following the procedures on this site will doom you for good. You need to understand the whys and wherefores of botany.

BudMastaPhil said:
Hey im Actualy having a problem that seem to be in between a few of your simptoms. this one plant isent draining the water out of its soil normaly and it seem like its taking a lighter yellow ish colour on the leaves some of the lower leafs are turning yeallow and i need sum tips cause time's running out and hopefully that can be changed
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Root system is the pits.
 
greengenez

greengenez

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I've been growing in 2 gal. pots. when finished roots are not even close to filling pot. tried less water, raising temp.,shrinking room to maximize light. plants are healthy green but not producing like they should. please help with any ideas
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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greengenez said:
I've been growing in 2 gal. pots. when finished roots are not even close to filling pot. tried less water, raising temp.,shrinking room to maximize light. plants are healthy green but not producing like they should. please help with any ideas
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What did you start them in?
 
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