Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide

ahhhhh i do remember now. (can i blame the weed too? )

i was kinda lost, cuz your name looked hella familiar....however i wasnt subscribed to the post. no wonder its a whole new journal.


yea man long time no see.



why arent your clones rooting in the bubbler? what are the temps? if you still want to tinker with it, let me know.


im looking to maybe putting in some LEDs in my mother and daughter chamber in the cab.... my t5 is crazy hot in that small space.... Not sure that leds can do the trick. maybe it can
 
LoudBlunts said:
why arent your clones rooting in the bubbler? what are the temps? if you still want to tinker with it, let me know.
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Don't know man, I have had three in bubbler's for two weeks now and I am just now starting to see nubs.

Temps are in the high 70's and the water is mid 70"s I used R/O water with 200PPM of clonex and I used
plain water in another tub. Shit is taking a long time.

The stem is above the water, right at the end of the net pot. 5 min on and 30 min off.

I moved most of them (and a few more cuttings) to a spray tub like an easy cloner a couple days ago. In there I
have R/O with 250PPMs of clonex PH 5.9 Temps mid 70"

So yea, I am tinkering alright. Whats your secret?
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do ya got enough bubbles?


i dont exactly like air pumps, but i've seen em get the job done with enough bubbles, as long as the stem is above the water, like really above, not a cm or 2 lol.....and i see you are using a timer, so that in essence would kinda mimic aero dry o2 period and wet period

temps sound okay. optimal rooting temps is 78F i believe, however to be honest, i dont measure my temps anymore :x i think i've gotten cocky.... however i do want to buy a thermo for my aero cloner, just havent had the money yet....

to be honest if i want fast rooting clones, i just put them in the big boy aero cloner 40 site.... clonex rooting sol, r/o water...and forreal sometimes i dont even pH if im feeling froggy.

sometimes i also dip in dutchmaster replicator cloning gel....but NONE of this shit is necessary, however it roots hella fast.

i havent rebuilt any smaller cloners for my veg chamber, im going to soon, not sure...but may be leaning on the aero side. Ebb and flow is for the mothers right now with a Sunleaves Nova in there. But i will have to add extraction as that bitch still gets hot...which is why i was looking for LEDs or something, but i may just stick with the floros for now... they do a good job, i can make floros work forreal!
 
8-18-09

Temps 78 res 60°
PPMs 760
PH 4.9

Down to under five gallons. Res Change today, Filled her up with 700PPms and Ph to 6.0

Yea, trippin on the clone thing. Its been two weeks now and here are the results.
I started clones in rapid rooter cubes and in bubbler's

The clones in bubbler's have r/o with 200 ppms at 5.8 or so ph.
Temps in the high 70"s Water a few degrees less.

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Is this normal progress for bubbler's?
I heard they root in a week doing it this way.

Here is the next batch

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These were taken the same day and put in Rapid rooter cubes.


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I lost a couple but got most rooted in a week. Then I put them here.
So 2 weeks old.

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If these cubes don't break down I may just stick to them.


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oh btw, if it matters, i set all my aero pumps on a 30 second on and 4 minute off setting
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Him, That may be it.
I am using the same cycle timer I have on the big girls. 5 min on 30 min off.
Also I think my stems were too long. I think I have enough bubbles.
Maybe the spray will work better.

Now that I am going into flower I suppose I could shorten that up cause I
know they use more water in flower. Have you ever tried 5 on 30 off for clones?
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8-19-09

Temps 77 res 68°
PPMs 650
Ph 6.0

They are where I want them to be at this point so I left the res alone.
I trained a few of them today, brought the canopy down a few inches. I got a bend in the big Widow too.

My PH meter finally gave out. PH Pro. I got it used a while ago and they don't make them anymore. I could still find a replacement tip but its about the same cost as new meter and that sounds better to me.

I had problems with Milwaukee's before I think I am going Pinpoint.
For now I have liquid test.

Something is up with my server, Wont upload pics tonight.

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as far as your clone rooting times, you want the root area light tight(or as much as possible). With your clear tub cloner pictured above, that can make rooting slow to not even happen. The cuttings in there ar doing fine, but I would paint or wrap the lid and tub. Black spray paint works well, only use on the outside though. Also duct tape and mylar work well if you have any lying around. After you do that, try to add 1 more cutting to the tub, and I bet it shaves a few days to a week off of your rooting time. The darker it is for the roots the better. Hope this helps.
 
Integra21 said:
as far as your clone rooting times, you want the root area light tight(or as much as possible). With your clear tub cloner pictured above, that can make rooting slow to not even happen. The cuttings in there ar doing fine, but I would paint or wrap the lid and tub. Black spray paint works well, only use on the outside though. Also duct tape and mylar work well if you have any lying around. After you do that, try to add 1 more cutting to the tub, and I bet it shaves a few days to a week off of your rooting time. The darker it is for the roots the better. Hope this helps.
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Sure it helps.
I forgot to do that, I will do it tonight when the lights come on.

Thanks.
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8-20-09

Temps 78 res 66°
PPMs 740
PH 5.2


One gallon down, ppms in line PH drops quite a bit. I just adjusted Ph to 6.0

I did a bit more training and covered the clone tub with aluminum foil to keep the light out. I got the first few shots with flash before the light came on.


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One thing I can say about these lights is they sure take nice pictures.

I am thinking Vegging for 4 weeks in this Aero system is too long without a screen, the plants are going to be growing up both sides after stretch and not much in the middle.

That brings me to light placement, Now it is placed vertical from left to right.
I have mounted it front to back in the past and I believe I get a better spread. I will probably change it once I
see what I am dealing with. Maybe a vertical hang would be best. I dont know how the hell I am going to do that now though.

Aero vs. Hydro I have noticed the side branches catch up with the main cola with aero. Much faster growth.
Taking a bit longer to go into flower then I am used to. No light leaks.

The plants seem much healthier, Lower fan leaves are giant compared to previous grows. All previous grows (Hydroton drip)
had stress issues once in flower I am not there yet so that remains to be seen.

If I end up with spider mites again I am going to blow this whole thing up.
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cruzer101 said:
Him, That may be it.
I am using the same cycle timer I have on the big girls. 5 min on 30 min off.
Also I think my stems were too long. I think I have enough bubbles.
Maybe the spray will work better.

Now that I am going into flower I suppose I could shorten that up cause I
know they use more water in flower. Have you ever tried 5 on 30 off for clones?
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no sir, i havent
 
Sweet vid cruzer, the plants are looking phenomenal. I can't wait to get my 400 watter burnin', this journal is really making me want to give aero a shot. Maybe just a one plant bucket/ tote to start. Hmm I will def be looking into this
 
hey cruz looks good. starting my build this week. barn is cleaned out. looks like i should be able to run 7 tubs in line. may go to a bigger water pump. ill post pic soon as it proggress.plants look nice and healthy. how about the dream team? mine are still going nice one is over 8' tall, others are still budding. jars are full,i havent for got about ya either bud.
 
tom__420 said:
Sweet vid cruzer, the plants are looking phenomenal. I can't wait to get my 400 watter burnin', this journal is really making me want to give aero a shot. Maybe just a one plant bucket/ tote to start. Hmm I will def be looking into this
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They do look good don't they.
It's not me, I'm doing pretty much the same as I have in the past.

Are you still growing the purple? That shit had real dark leaf.
How was the smoke?
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cutman said:
hey cruz looks good. starting my build this week. barn is cleaned out. looks like i should be able to run 7 tubs in line. may go to a bigger water pump. ill post pic soon as it proggress.plants look nice and healthy. how about the dream team? mine are still going nice one is over 8' tall, others are still budding. jars are full,i havent for got about ya either bud.
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Hey Man,

Good to hear you are back from the Harvest. Funny thing, people always seem to disappear for a week or so after the dry. lol

Dream team is... well a dream.
We are still tyeing them down. Can"t keep a good girl down now can ya.
I would guess the screen is about 3 foot by seven foot about a foot thick and over flowing.

Sounds like you are going to maximize the space this time around. I will
keep an eye on your journal for pics.

Cool
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