Comparing PC fans for exhaust

nuggetgrower

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40mm Fonsan.
Here's some info I found on it. Medium speed, rated 12VDC 0.08A 7CFM @ 6000 RPM

I have this little guy mounted in a PC case to keep air circulating through. I have a 80mm intake on the bottom in the front and an 80mm exhaust on top in the back. The 40mm fan keeps air moving in the case nicely.
 

magicSpoons

Member
From Fry's electronics.

-92 *92*25mm

-Air Flow of 43.5 CFM

-Speed of 2500 rpm

-Noise of 28.8 dba

Now tell me what you guys think of that one, and its only $7.99?
I guess it depends if you're going for stealth or not, 28dba is fairly loud and someone might wonder why the PC is so noisy, and in a PC case you probs don't need such a high CFM rating but it's a good price.

I have two Akasa ultra quiet 8cm fans, 1800RPM, 25.4 CFM and 18dba which do nicely, two of them for £10.

If you've got a bit of money though Akasa do this crazy Apache fan which does 54CFM, 1300RPM and the noise level is only 16dba. It cost about £15 though.
 

BlazedMonkey

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Old thread but its always nice to create more for the RIU archives :)

SO LET THIS THREAD RISE FROM THE DEAD! MUAHAHAHAHAH

Anyway
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000YSONMO
Make: Noctua
Model: NF- P12
Purchased From: Amazon
Price: $18.95 (i know crazy but ill explain)
Size: 120mm
Bearing Type: SSO Bearing (liquid bearing with oil)
Sound level: Rated 20db
Powered By: 12V
CFM: 55
RPM: 1300
Pros: Quiet and good static pressure
Cons: Did you see the cost?
Overall Rating: 1-10
Comments:
Okay so fate ended up giving me a $25 dollar gift card to amazon. Im growing in a cabinet and because its in my bedroom and i sleep occasionally i want it to be quiet. So i wanted a really quiet fan, ergo inline was out. Now the one problem is that i need it to push through a light filter (dont care about a little smell but cant have it reeking). So i looked up fans with static pressure. This fan had a 4.8 rating with only two ratings below 5 (and one was a 4), and two different people on two different sites commented that it had great static pressure as well as the fan description said it was good with impedance (self fulfilling prophecy? we shall see).

So because i had a gift card and if you bought two it was free shipping i ended up getting two.
Ill rate and edit review according after i get the fans and check em out.

Oh and jondaman you never gave us an update
 

MrBosco

Member
Hey folks. Thought I'd post a couple of general points as I worked for a few years as a system builder for a custom PC company and I've used hundreds of fans of virtually every type and make.

Size - a bigger fan is always better if you have the space to mount it. Fitting a big fan and attaching a speed controller will allow you to slow the fan down to get whatever balance of noise level and airflow you need, while allowing you the flexibility to speed it up in warm weather if required. Running a dirt cheap 120mm fan at reduced voltage will give you more airflow with less noise than the most expensive 80mm fan. It is next to impossible to get decent airlow out of a small fan without lots of noise - a small fan with a high CFM rating is guaranteed to be noisey. Don't bother with anything smaller than 92mm unless you already have the fans to hand or don't care about noise. Most PC fans are designed to run at 12 Volts, but can be slowed down by reducing voltage down to 6V or less without causing the fan to stop. Note that some fan designs cannot be controlled in this way, such as those with built-in temperature-based speed controllers, and different fan designs will stop turning at different voltages. Never run fans at their absolute minimum voltage as tiny changes in environment can cause the fan to stop turning - always run fans at a slightly higher voltage than the point at which they stop dead or start 'twitching'.

Bearing - ball bearing fans last longer and are more reliable than sleeve bearing fans. They also rattle long before they fail, giving you more warning that they need replacing before they stop dead on you. Though more expensive, ball bearing fans are generally well worth their price. If quoted, the MTBF (Mean Time Before Failure) rating on the fan will give you an indication of how long a given fan should last on average (in hours) at full speed.

Mounting - if mounting to a hard thin surface like a box the vibration from the fan will reverberate through the surface it's mounted to. If mounted in the wrong place the mounting surface can act like a drum, turning the vibration into audible sound. Mount fans in corners if possible, or if necessary use dampeners like rubber grommets between the fan and the mounting surface to deaden vibration.

Controllers - there are various fan speed controllers available that will allow you to fine-tune a multi-fan setup easily, and some allow temperature sensors to be attached to control fan speed automatically. If you have a number of fans to control and want to keep noise to an absolute minimum these controllers can be well worth the investment. Avoid fans with built-in non-adjustable temperature control are they are hard-set to speed up the fan at 35-40 degrees C, much too hot for a grow box.

Specialist PC overclocking suppliers are the best place to find good quality fans and mounting/control accessories including ducts and adapters. One I've used in the past for hard-to-find accessories is linked below (I have no affiliation with them). Even if not purchasing from them they have an excellent range of products so the site it great for checking what's available.

http://www.coolerguys.com

I hope this helps.
 

TechnoMage

Well-Known Member
Hey folks. Thought I'd post a couple of general points as I worked for a few years as a system builder for a custom PC company and I've used hundreds of fans of virtually every type and make.

Size - a bigger fan is always better if you have the space to mount it. Fitting a big fan and attaching a speed controller will allow you to slow the fan down to get whatever balance of noise level and airflow you need, while allowing you the flexibility to speed it up in warm weather if required. Running a dirt cheap 120mm fan at reduced voltage will give you more airflow with less noise than the most expensive 80mm fan. It is next to impossible to get decent airlow out of a small fan without lots of noise - a small fan with a high CFM rating is guaranteed to be noisey. Don't bother with anything smaller than 92mm unless you already have the fans to hand or don't care about noise. Most PC fans are designed to run at 12 Volts, but can be slowed down by reducing voltage down to 6V or less without causing the fan to stop. Note that some fan designs cannot be controlled in this way, such as those with built-in temperature-based speed controllers, and different fan designs will stop turning at different voltages. Never run fans at their absolute minimum voltage as tiny changes in environment can cause the fan to stop turning - always run fans at a slightly higher voltage than the point at which they stop dead or start 'twitching'.

Bearing - ball bearing fans last longer and are more reliable than sleeve bearing fans. They also rattle long before they fail, giving you more warning that they need replacing before they stop dead on you. Though more expensive, ball bearing fans are generally well worth their price. If quoted, the MTBF (Mean Time Before Failure) rating on the fan will give you an indication of how long a given fan should last on average (in hours) at full speed.

Mounting - if mounting to a hard thin surface like a box the vibration from the fan will reverberate through the surface it's mounted to. If mounted in the wrong place the mounting surface can act like a drum, turning the vibration into audible sound. Mount fans in corners if possible, or if necessary use dampeners like rubber grommets between the fan and the mounting surface to deaden vibration.

Controllers - there are various fan speed controllers available that will allow you to fine-tune a multi-fan setup easily, and some allow temperature sensors to be attached to control fan speed automatically. If you have a number of fans to control and want to keep noise to an absolute minimum these controllers can be well worth the investment. Avoid fans with built-in non-adjustable temperature control are they are hard-set to speed up the fan at 35-40 degrees C, much too hot for a grow box.

Specialist PC overclocking suppliers are the best place to find good quality fans and mounting/control accessories including ducts and adapters. One I've used in the past for hard-to-find accessories is linked below (I have no affiliation with them). Even if not purchasing from them they have an excellent range of products so the site it great for checking what's available.

http://www.coolerguys.com

I hope this helps.
Exactly what I was going to say. Get the biggest fans that will fit in your situation, you can always dial them down. +1 to CoolerGuys, I'm using one of their "110v AC to 12v DC Power Supply with 4 Pin Molex (2000mA)" to power three PC fans.
 

SpaaaceCowboy

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Very cool setup. Looks good. One question: Now how do you power these things again? You said you used a Radio Shark 12v converter.. how to you actually connect it though? Can you provide a photo or explanation?
I'd also like to know what this 12v radio shack converter looks like, and what it does...is it just a power cord ?
 
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