bubbleponics superior to aeroponics
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I don't know about aeroponics but bubbleponics is a trademarked proprietary name for nothing but a simple DWC system that used a water pump and feeder tubes for the first couple weeks which is unnecessary anyway. Ironic that the name bubbleponics is owned by those who don't have faith in the bubbles.
420hydro
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"Bubbleponics" is good for a couple of plants. Aeroponics is scalable from a few plants up to a dozen or more - check out https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/116859-harvest-pound-every-three-weeks.html
GreenphoeniX
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Bubbleponics, DWC - Same thing. Personally I like to combine DWC and Aero together, you get the benefits of both. Aero increases nutrient, h2o and o2 intake, while the DWC keeps a steady feed line and if there is a power cut there's not a lot of damage done because the roots still have access to plenty of water while the aero pumps aren't working!
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Aeroponics may indeed be the most advanced system scientifically and it might produce marginally higher yields. But I don't know that it is the best choice for the novice since it is more complex and more expensive. There is a lot to be said for the simplicity and clarity (and economy) of the passive DWC that's bubble-based.
smppro
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I agree with you there, not the easiest system to maintain, if you want ease then spraying water out of tubing directly on the pot then letting in fall atleast 8in to the res is the easiest. No clogging and plenty of aeration in the rez.
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I think no water pumps and no tubes at all is the easiest. I'm seeing absolutely no difference in growth rates from relying only on lots of bubbles and the mist they produce to take care of the plant before roots are in the water. And roots reached the water faster this way. I can see pumps and tubes for a very large operation but not for the 3 or 4 plant guy.
smppro
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Thats true i am thinking on a larger scale, i have an outdoor verticle setup that uses 1 half inch pipe for the entire system, this way its pretty much impossible to clog and the water is always circulated which helps with high temps. This way i never have to worry about a small tube, sprayer, or airstone getting clogged, although clogged airstones seem to be a thing of the past i never really ran into that problem. As soon as im done flowering my soil ladies im starting my aero/dwc. Just a tote with 16 2in net pots, about a donzen sprayers raised to the pots, with 2 air stones in the water, i think its over kill but should insure a nice enviroment
Why not just go ebb/flow? Im switching everything over to ebb/flow I have been running a drip system for a few months and feeding tubes piss me off.
Ebb/flow is by far the most simple to upkeep and grow with. DWC I am going to try but seems like to much work dealing with the roots and switching res. And if it gets hot in the summer I can run 1 water cooler for 1 res other then some crazy setup to cool all the buckets.
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You should post a description of the system you plan or a link, I'm curious. Is it a diy? It has no feers or drips? Do you intend to start germinated seeds in it?
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im not looking for most simple....im looking for better productivity
happyface
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whoa whoa i wasnt even gonna post because Roseman is my boy.but i would say that Aero is def superior over DWC. theres is more xoygen to the roots which accelerates the plant growth. i was amazed with how fast my plants grew in my aero system.well i stated as a young jedi learning most of what i kno from roseman EVEN WHEN HE WAS M.I.A for awhile i freakin learned everything he wrote.
well i would say if you have never grown before then yes DWC. but if you have experience AERO is where its at.
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well i would say if you have never grown before then yes DWC. but if you have experience AERO is where its at.
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moash
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thanks for the input
thats what i figured
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I don't think there is any reliable evidence that aeroponics produces bigger yields than DWC. I really think this is like mediocre golfers arguing over the latest titanium putter. The big difference is between the growers and the care they take.
smppro
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Ive done ebbnflow , its easy but not the most productive which is what we are looking for. i dont see a lot of professional dwc systems out there aside from floating raft, aero and nft are the way most greenhouses produce there crops(vegetables). So there might not be a side by side marijuana test, but the people that grow legall produce plants seem to have made their decision. So i dont think there is a huge difference but i think it makes since that aero is more productive.
But honestly i dont think there is a true aeroponics setup on this site, everything i have seen is low pressure areoponics
But honestly i dont think there is a true aeroponics setup on this site, everything i have seen is low pressure areoponics
moash
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good point...
low pressured aero is jusst like nft,imo
Just setting up flood trays 3 foot by 3 foot 2 of them with 600 watt on each. I could do 4ft by 4ft but I think personaly I would need 1k watt lights.
Simple 2 trays running on 2 res and 2 pumps to flood trays every 2 hours or so.
I use clones in peat pellets and hoppfully I can find some hydroton somwhere in big bags if not ill use peagravel not a problem. Dont know how pea gravle works in ebb/flow but I know it works in drip.
MostlyCrazy
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The advantage of Bubbleponics to a newbie is the ability to grow from seed or small seedling. The pump and feeder hose supply the plants with a good nutrious start. As they say, breakfast is the most important meal! With classic DWC you have to wait for an established root system to hit the water. Most newbies have trouble getting it that far. After the roots hit the water you can take the pump and feeder tubes out if you want to although I leave the pump in for further airiation and res cooling.
The advantage of Bubbleponics to a newbie is the ability to grow from seed or small seedling. The pump and feeder hose supply the plants with a good nutrious start. As they say, breakfast is the most important meal! With classic DWC you have to wait for an established root system to hit the water. Most newbies have trouble getting it that far. After the roots hit the water you can take the pump and feeder tubes out if you want to although I leave the pump in for further airiation and res cooling.
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