moash
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good point
how does leaving the pump in cool the water down
bubbleponics superior to aeroponics
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how does leaving the pump in cool the water down
MostlyCrazy
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Increased water movement provided by the pump moves things around faster and moving water doesn't absorb as much heat. Is river water hot?
moash
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i suppose not but river water dont have a running motor in it and is not closed contained.....
Roseman
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Running, moving water IS cooler than standing water is the point.
So, What Is Bubbleponics, Exactly, compared to Drip or Aeroponic?
The worlds first continuous plant feeding system, Bubbleponics is a hybrid design that takes the best from both worlds of the Deep Water Culture (aka DWC, bubbler) and Drip systems. Since the nutrient mix is highly oxygenated, Bubbleponics converts its drip function to a constant feed flow directly to the inner roots. Without needing to take breaks or use a timer to allow the root base to drain and absorb oxygen, plants in the Bubbleponic system are able to deliver unparalleled growth energy.
This advantage is particularly pronounced during early vegetative phases when the plants root mass is still relatively small. Cuttings placed into the system experience no noticeable transplant shock and practically start growing immediately. In experiments measured against leading aeroponic systems, the Bubbleponic design shaved, on average, four days from a two week growing cycle, a 30% growth rate increase over Aeroponics in the early vegetative stage; truly amazing. As the root mass of the respective plants grow larger, growth rate advantages were less evident, however, the plants in the Bubbleponic planter maintained their 4-5 day lead over the aeroponic plants throughout the cycle.
In a series of stress tests, plants in the Bubbleponic system performed remarkably when recovering from an over-fertilized condition. With almost the entire root mass destroyed, Bubbleponics was able to revive 67% of the plants which started re-growing new roots and were able to complete their cycle. None of the other plants in the aeroponic products survived this stress test. The tests concluded that the Bubbleponic system provided significant recovery advantages over other systems when it came to anything that stressed or killed that root mass.
Hub Feeding Ensures Consistency
The Bubbleponic design is, ironically enough, one of the first hydroponic products to use real irrigation parts. This includes a hub feed system, where the main flow from the water pump is broken up into 6 smaller feeder tubes via a pressure regulating irrigation distributor. No other plants sites are thus dependant on any other as they would be in most drip systems that use Ted designs. This also ensures identical feeding conditions at each site.
The Ideal Maintenance Solution
Almost all the parts used can be obtained from a local hardware store or Walmart or A Pet Store.. By using mainstream brands in the design it allows the end user to easily replace individual parts in a pinch through out their many years of bubbleponicing!
The entire irrigation system can be dismantled by hand, requiring no tools. The distribution hubs cap can be unscrewed to remove the plastic filter inside. Once dismantled, the parts can easily be cleaned and re-assembled. No other system, and Ive seen my share, allows you such easy access to the nuts and bolts. All other hype aside, if there was ever a reason to consider purchasing a hydro kit, maintenance should be at the top of the list.
Easy As Pie
Considering that there are no timers to set and tweak for the water pump, and that the unit is totally self contained and mobile, this is one of the simplest designs around. From setup to final clean up, bar none, one of the best high speed hydroponic systems on the market. Bubbleponics has raised the bar and changes everything we are to expect from modern hydroponics.
Amen.
So, What Is Bubbleponics, Exactly, compared to Drip or Aeroponic?
The worlds first continuous plant feeding system, Bubbleponics is a hybrid design that takes the best from both worlds of the Deep Water Culture (aka DWC, bubbler) and Drip systems. Since the nutrient mix is highly oxygenated, Bubbleponics converts its drip function to a constant feed flow directly to the inner roots. Without needing to take breaks or use a timer to allow the root base to drain and absorb oxygen, plants in the Bubbleponic system are able to deliver unparalleled growth energy.
This advantage is particularly pronounced during early vegetative phases when the plants root mass is still relatively small. Cuttings placed into the system experience no noticeable transplant shock and practically start growing immediately. In experiments measured against leading aeroponic systems, the Bubbleponic design shaved, on average, four days from a two week growing cycle, a 30% growth rate increase over Aeroponics in the early vegetative stage; truly amazing. As the root mass of the respective plants grow larger, growth rate advantages were less evident, however, the plants in the Bubbleponic planter maintained their 4-5 day lead over the aeroponic plants throughout the cycle.
In a series of stress tests, plants in the Bubbleponic system performed remarkably when recovering from an over-fertilized condition. With almost the entire root mass destroyed, Bubbleponics was able to revive 67% of the plants which started re-growing new roots and were able to complete their cycle. None of the other plants in the aeroponic products survived this stress test. The tests concluded that the Bubbleponic system provided significant recovery advantages over other systems when it came to anything that stressed or killed that root mass.
Hub Feeding Ensures Consistency
The Bubbleponic design is, ironically enough, one of the first hydroponic products to use real irrigation parts. This includes a hub feed system, where the main flow from the water pump is broken up into 6 smaller feeder tubes via a pressure regulating irrigation distributor. No other plants sites are thus dependant on any other as they would be in most drip systems that use Ted designs. This also ensures identical feeding conditions at each site.
The Ideal Maintenance Solution
Almost all the parts used can be obtained from a local hardware store or Walmart or A Pet Store.. By using mainstream brands in the design it allows the end user to easily replace individual parts in a pinch through out their many years of bubbleponicing!
The entire irrigation system can be dismantled by hand, requiring no tools. The distribution hubs cap can be unscrewed to remove the plastic filter inside. Once dismantled, the parts can easily be cleaned and re-assembled. No other system, and Ive seen my share, allows you such easy access to the nuts and bolts. All other hype aside, if there was ever a reason to consider purchasing a hydro kit, maintenance should be at the top of the list.
Easy As Pie
Considering that there are no timers to set and tweak for the water pump, and that the unit is totally self contained and mobile, this is one of the simplest designs around. From setup to final clean up, bar none, one of the best high speed hydroponic systems on the market. Bubbleponics has raised the bar and changes everything we are to expect from modern hydroponics.
Amen.
nikk
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you sound like the pitchman for the company....are you the ceo behind stealth hydro?
moash
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ive read that before...which is y i posted this thread,cuz u make it sound more productive than other systems....
just trying to get diff opinions on the subject....
Roseman
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I wish. I'm
just a loyal customer, but they have given me freebies (gift certificates) to write for them. I used to be a proof reader for an insunrace company .
MostlyCrazy
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Well, you got this Bubblehead's view on things. If your pump is producing more heat than the cooling effect of movng water your pump is clogged. But that is just a side issue to Bubbleponics. Some do, some don't leave it in. The advantage of the feeder tubes is still a great way for newbie to learn. Also, the pump can help when draining the res. Connect a piece of hose and it takes about a minute to dump the res. I have the drain plug and almost wish I hadn't since it's just another thing to go wrong and lead to a big problem.
xpac7007
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Actually i just took my irrigation hub out of my tank because the roots are far enough into the water but i did leave my pump in. I have my pump set to 2 hours on and 2 hours off all day. I have noticed that when the pump is off the water is 3 degrees higher than when it is running. But the main reason i left it in is because it keeps the water moving when it is on and keeps it mixed up.
nikk
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thats why you are the man bro,nuff respect
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There's nothing about moving water that makes it cooler than standing water. I'll give $100 to anyone who can provide a link to a credible source that says there is. People believe all kinds of things and there are people who believe you have to force water up and into a netpot to make a seedling grow optimally. There are also people on this site who believe the mist from the bubbles can do the same thing just as well and much simpler. I personally believe everyone should try it both ways and see for themselves.
What is ironic is that the bubbleheads, the advocates of the feeder tubes, are not the ones who believe in the bubbles - the other side does. Why isn't it the feeder tube heads?
What is ironic is that the bubbleheads, the advocates of the feeder tubes, are not the ones who believe in the bubbles - the other side does. Why isn't it the feeder tube heads?
tSunami13
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After reading thousands of Roseman's post he is the best pitchman out there for this product. HE HAS TON'S OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE SYSTEM. So he has found a product he likes and it works and he has no problem sharing that info. Heck if only the PAID pitchmen knew half of what he does about their products we would all be better off! Props to Roseman for sharing what works for him! and just about everyone else that uses the system too!! Don't hate people for speaking about something they believe in 100% and proving that it works!
MostlyCrazy
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IS,
We do both. BP is a better starter and works better for newbies! When do you put your plants in DWC? Are they fully rooted past the RW cube?
We do both. BP is a better starter and works better for newbies! When do you put your plants in DWC? Are they fully rooted past the RW cube?
Air bubbles are movement no? I know guys to this day that have never heard of putting "feeder tubes" in a DWC setup.
If they where gonna buy pumps they would just save the effort and run aeroponics and worry about 1 pump 1 ress30 plants....
Pumps in DWC is new to me and as it works I see no need for it. Its bubblebonics. Add a pump and thats just a DRIP system just built in res for space. Some companys build recirculating systems with res for each plant and they made some funky name for it flood drain each bucket one big res.
You ask me its a new system and could be perfected 1 pump to more tubs shorter tubs and constantly pump water to the tubes with a constant overflow. Could make it so you wouldnt have to mess with roots aswell.
Give me a while ill build somthing.
nikk
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ayo my man,you jumping to conclusions,i was just joking with him,i have nothing but the up most respect for him and his nephew,i modeled my grow room on the strength or his advice alone,so you need to take a puff of that night night cnd chill,and besides im pretty sure if roseman would of found what i said offensive(even tho it wasnt)he would've stuck up for himself,i swear roll it up has too many heroes sometimes,
moash
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lol...................ayo my man,you jumping to conclusions,i was just joking with him,i have nothing but the up most respect for him and his nephew,i modeled my grow room on the strength or his advice alone,so you need to take a puff of that night night cnd chill,and besides im pretty sure if roseman would of found what i said offensive(even tho it wasnt)he would've stuck up for himself,i swear roll it up has too many heroes sometimes,
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I put mine in rockwool when they have a 1cm taproot. Adding pumps and tubes to a DWC with good bubbles is a solution in search of a problem.
MostlyCrazy
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It's just that his passion is sometimes confused with a profit motive. Taint so!
Snail,
You can definately build one cheaper but some are not mechanically gifted (i. e. me) and you learn the basics of growing hydro. Feeder tubes are not needed when the roots hit the water. Then it turns into a 6 port DWC system. You start with reg seeds in all 6, get your usual 3 fems and grow to completion. I've done it 5 times in the last year.
Snail,
You can definately build one cheaper but some are not mechanically gifted (i. e. me) and you learn the basics of growing hydro. Feeder tubes are not needed when the roots hit the water. Then it turns into a 6 port DWC system. You start with reg seeds in all 6, get your usual 3 fems and grow to completion. I've done it 5 times in the last year.
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