tSunami13
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So I can take the strains that are out there already at 25% THC and leave em in the dark another 48 hours and I will have shit that is 55% THC??? Sorry Bro I am a little skeptical.
how do i get my thc up
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born2killspam
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Yea, then breed those, and take the 55% strain and do it again to produce a 75% strain, and keep doing it as if you were redistilling vodka.. Eventually we'll have plants that grow from the dirt looking like those crystals in Smallville..
(Sorry)
Personally I found them to be more resinous moreso than more euphoric resin.. I understand your thc cycle regarding light, those just weren't the effects that popped out at me..
I figured that the panic inclined the plant to produce as much of its general protectant as possible with the reserves it had..
(Sorry)
Personally I found them to be more resinous moreso than more euphoric resin.. I understand your thc cycle regarding light, those just weren't the effects that popped out at me..
I figured that the panic inclined the plant to produce as much of its general protectant as possible with the reserves it had..
Brick Top
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Let me get this right so no confusion remains in my mind on how things work.
　
The Stichting Institute of Medical marijuana took half a crop of mature marijuana and gave half of it 72 hours of darkness before harvest and the other half did not receive any additional darkness before harvesting it and then both were given to the laboratories and the University of Leiden for testing and the chemical analysis in the laboratories of the University of Leiden found an increased level of THC in the plants that received 72 hours of darkness, as much as a 30% increase in some strains, only because the Stichting Institute of Medical marijuana hoped it would be found because it was their experiment and their desire that the hoped for effect/increase would occur.
　
　
That is not only extremely interesting but also absolutely amazing that the wishes of the Stichting Institute of Medical marijuana were so very powerful that they were capable of fooling the University of Leidens high tech chemical analysis equipment into finding an increase in THC levels that did not exist.
That is an incredibly powerful placebo effect if ever there was one.
Brick Top
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First, the tested plants received 72 hours of darkness, not 48 hours as you stated.
　
Second, it said "some strains" saw an increase as much as 30%. It did not say every strain had a 30% increase or even that all strains had some percentage of increase. It only said some strains had as much as a 30% increase.
born2killspam
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I wish I'd experimented with taking it to the extreme on subsequent crops.. 168hrs(1week)+ would be interesting..
What I did do was the convenience thing I mentioned on future crops.. I just took my time trimming, and kept the lights out.. I don't think I ever exceeded 100hrs, and I wasn't examining closely..
What I did do was the convenience thing I mentioned on future crops.. I just took my time trimming, and kept the lights out.. I don't think I ever exceeded 100hrs, and I wasn't examining closely..
luielugatz
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so what is a good strain that can produce a high thc value?
Brick Top
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There would be a limit to the amount of time a crop could be kept in darkness and still see an increased level of THC.
　
Plants will only survive in total darkness for a certain period of time and after that they will die and all plant processes will stop and over all degradation will begin.
　
It is common knowledge among experienced growers and experts that some light rays degrade THC.
It is also known that during periods of darkness the lost THC will be replenished and there will also be an increase bringing the overall levels to a higher point than before the degradation.
That is of course why THC levels do increase as flowering advances until maturity, that is as long as no conditions exist that would otherwise also degrade the levels of THC.
　
So since THC is created and builds up mostly during periods of darkness why would not extending the final period of darkness to the limits where a plant will still create THC and increase its level of THC without degradation be beneficial in at least some strains?
There would be a continuation of THC production without the normal subsequent loss of THC during periods of light. That could only result in an over all increase of THC, at least in some strains as tests have proven.
well shit everyone go ahead and scrap your lights grow your weed in the dark because it will b way better..... bro get off it and screw the scientific insitute of grow your weed in the dark.... its friday and 5 oclock somewhere so light one up drink one down and get off it.. im gonna go boil my roots in the dark while stickin pins in the stalk and playin rock music while punching my plants cola in the face to get a thousand percent thc increase
born2killspam
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Ahh, the last ditch effort..
mindphuk
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Brick Top
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Evidently when you find yourself totally lacking anything accurate or factual to say you leap to the farthest extreme imaginable.
　
I stated perfectly clearly in the beginning of my message the following:
　
"There would be a limit to the amount of time a crop could be kept in darkness and still see an increased level of THC.
Plants will only survive in total darkness for a certain period of time and after that they will die and all plant processes will stop and over all degradation will begin."
　
Yet you replied with a total absurdity saying:
　
"well shit everyone go ahead and scrap your lights grow your weed in the dark because it will b way better"
You went on to state:
"screw the scientific insitute of grow your weed in the dark"
That was another total absurdity. Nothing was said about growing your weed in the dark.
It only said giving plants a 72-hour period of darkness before harvest can increase the THC level by as much as 30% in some strains. That is not growing weed in the dark.
　
If you want to be technical about weed growing in the dark the most efficient growth a plant has is in its period of darkness.
During hours of light a plant multitasks, it uses the absorbed light rays/energy for a multitude of purposes, including storage of a goodly amount to use during periods of darkness.
　
But during the hours of darkness the plant stops multitasking and uses its stored energy mainly for purposes of growth.
The amount of energy used in relation to the amount of growth is far more efficient than the amount of energy used during the day in relation to growth.
　
Have you ever noticed how you can set your light or lights at a certain height and no matter how many times you may check them during the day the lights almost always remain high enough to not be needed to be moved but then when you look at them the first thing the following morning the leaf tips are very close to the light or lights or even grown into the light or lights?
　
Did you ever wonder why plants grow so quickly during the hours of darkness? (not to be confused on your part, again, as actually growing plants in the dark, as in without any lights at all, as you so absurdly stated in a weak attempt to ridicule both what you do not understand and refuse to accept and of course myself also.) The reason is plants use stored energy far more efficiently than the energy they use that is taken in during hours of light.
　
You really do not mind in the least making an utter fool of yourself, do you?
　
Something that always has amazed me is how very many people who frequent sites like this refuse to accept scientific fact and in place of it only accept opinion and myth and urban legend and old hippie folklore, and of course the things that they are ignorant enough to believe they actually thought up even though others had tried the very same things decades or more ago.
　
If the saying ignorance is bliss is indeed true then this site and others like it must have some of the very most blissful people alive in the world today as members.
born2killspam
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Looks like dgk4life just served us..
kaiserAxel
Active Member
Ive heard of growers putting their plants in a drought last 2 weeks..makes the plant send more resin to the buds to protect them
born2killspam
Well-Known Member
That does increase potency, and that does hurt yield..
Edit
otency may be the wrong word.. Resin content would be better..
Edit
otency may be the wrong word.. Resin content would be better..
Twistedfunk
Active Member
I've never seen any empirical evidence that this is true. If you could provide some that would be great.
Also, I see people recommending that you should "stress" your plants in various ways in order to get certain positive results. This is mysticism and simply bad gardening.
stinkbudd1
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say brick i hope i dont sound like the other guy im just a newbie that needs all the true feed back i can use isee you are well versed in this so here it is can you give me a simple to follow soil regemine for lowriders if you are familiar with them or do you think i should simply go organic from start to finish and pray?lol also since im going with the auto lowriders and they dont consume much space can you plant more than one seedling to one pot i have large pots for planting...thanx...stink1
Brick Top
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I have never grown lowryder or any smaller/dwarf strain so I have no actual experience with them to share. Sorry.
　
In general I would say that organic or at least mostly organic is the best way to go for any soil type growing.
I dont actually use soil, I grow in pine bark chips, smaller chips the largest might be the size of a dime but must is around a quarter of that size or smaller.
At our nursery that is all we grow in and it is fantastic. Since we switched to it everything improved growth-wise so I gave it a try with my garden and it will take something extremely special to get me to switch to anything else.
　
Now it is not the typical bag bought stuff. We purchase dump truck loads at a time and when we dump it, it is hot like a compost pile.
We dump it on cement slabs and then place sprayers/misters all over the piles and water it down very well for days and then turn it and water it and turn it and water it until there is no heat. Then we of course have to adjust the pH but after that it is ready for use.
　
Fox Farms soils are very popular, and very good. If I were purchasing soil I would most likely pick Fox Farms. Their Ocean Forest is likely the most popular among growers though I do know some who for some reason or another prefer the original mix.
There are other quality soils and if you are willing to go to the effort you can find information online about how to make your own soil mixtures that can be very good. It just isnt as quick and as easy as driving to a store or ordering online or by phone and then waiting for it to be delivered.
　
For fertilizers I use Fox Farms products. Grow Big for the vegetative period and then Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom for the flowering period but I also use SuperThrive.
Some people claim SuperThrive is pure crap and others love it to death so that likely will get any number of differing opinions.
Since I started to use it I have seen a definite improvement so regardless of it being the best or not it does work so I do use it. Just do not over it. Follow the instructions and do not deviate from them.
　
I never like growing more than one plant in one pot or container. If someone uses regular seeds by the time they can sex them they may find they have a male and a female in the same container and then it is more difficult to separate them.
The same goes if a plant turns hermi on you and you need to seperate it from the rest.
If you have a sick or diseased plant you need to remove and it is in the same container it is more likely whatever is afflicting the one will also afflict the other so you are more apt to lose both and again separation is far more difficult in a shared container. If you think you can save the sick or diseased plant and want to quarantine it, doing so would be very difficult.
　
Something else to consider is most who grow in pots use pots that are to small to begin with so if you then add a second plant you only worsen the situation.
Keep in mind that the below soil portion of a plant will very closely equal in overall size/mass the above soil portion of the plant.
If you look at a plant and think gee, if I were to try to put the above soil portion of the plant into the pot it would never fit or if it did fit I would have to Vaseline the sides of the pot and use something to pack it in well then the pot size is way to small.
　
While I have never done it I have had friends who grew in tubs or VERY large pots and did have any number of plants in them but they used different things to partition the single large tub or pot into sections so each plants roots did not grow into the others.
To me it makes more sense to just use separate containers but if for example someone had an area where a certain sized large tub fit perfectly they could use it alone but again they would want to made some sort of partitions to section off the tub so each plant/plants roots would basically be in their own pot/tub.
That does call for some alterations, besides making the partitions and installing them, as in needing to make sure each partitioned section has adequate drainage but it can be done.
　
Another thing to consider if planting more than one plant per container is even if they do not grow tall if they grow very bushy they will grow together and form a thicker canopy making light penetration more difficult.
If someone has and can use enough lighting that can be overcome but they just cannot expect to do things the same as if they had one plant per container and could spread them out some as they bush out.
　
I hope this helped at least a little. Not having any lowryder experience I have to think your most important questions or concerns went unanswered but while I do know a fair bit I am not the Shell Answer Man so I cannot answer everyones questions to the fullest.
　
Good luck, stay safe!
fatfarmer34
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Did you watch the video? it is pretty convincing. Besides "empirical" evidence for anything is very hard to come by. I do agree that stressing is not a good way to go. I believe any added potency is lost in yield. Just my 2 cents.