cops monitoring this site?

Hassan

Active Member
Why dont you go get a megaphone and stand out at city hall saying all the shit youre posting here. No?
 

The Potologist

Active Member
I wasn't aware that the cops ever had a positive image to the public lol

What happened to serve and protect, now its bust and scare
Opps, dont forget about the shoot now and ask later tactics, or the Hi! Heres a gernade in your window, and the Hi little Johhny, GET DOWN ON THE FUCKING GROUND NOW MOTHER FUCKERS ILL KILL YOU:clap:
PROHIBITION WILL NEVER WORK! QUITE FUNDING TERRORIST THROUGH OUR BLACK MARKETS AND LEGALIZE. NOW THATS CHANGE I CAN BELIEVE IN. A TRUE SAFER NORTH AMERICA!
 

Jerry Garcia

Well-Known Member
If the police come to your door, don't even answer it. If you open your door and they smell marijuana, guess what...they are coming in with or without a warrant. Never talk to the police and don't ever answer your door. If they have a warrant they are going to come in, usually by force. Don't start talking to them because you aren't going to convince them to let you go. By talking to the police you are only going to get yourself into more trouble.
Agreed. I don't open my door for ANYONE I don't know, ESPECIALLY POLICE.
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
Who needs the ACLU?

Join NORML.

If that's not your cup of cannabis tea, then join any of the following:

Mari-juana Policy Project (MPP)
Stop the Drug War (DRCNet)
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP)
The Drug Policy Alliance


But these organizations need support. One simply should not expect them to work for one's freedom on somebody else's nickel.

No need to join all of them. One will do.
I'm an active member of NORML and I just recently got involved with MPP. One person standing shouting at city hall isn't going to do a thing except get that person into trouble. It's numbers. Everybody has to get involved (or as many as possible). And it will take rallies, PSA's and our case has to be well thought out and intelligent. We can't go off half cocked thinking it will do any good. We didn't get into this mess overnight and we won't get out of overnight either.
 

Hassan

Active Member
I wasn't being serious just pointing out that having this discussion on RIU isn't going to have any effect on anything, unless you just like to be affirmed
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
I'm an active member of NORML and I just recently got involved with MPP. One person standing shouting at city hall isn't going to do a thing except get that person into trouble. It's numbers. Everybody has to get involved (or as many as possible). And it will take rallies, PSA's and our case has to be well thought out and intelligent. We can't go off half cocked thinking it will do any good. We didn't get into this mess overnight and we won't get out of overnight either.
Outstanding. I would love to see every member of a pro-cannabis organization follow my example and display their membership proudly in their signature. How much more juice would NORML have if every RIU member was also a member of NORML?

I use NORML as the example only because it is the most prominent. As stated previously, any pro-cannabis organization would do.

The way to beat this in the current political climate is to fight fire with fire.

Every member here should consider joining an organization which actively lobbies Congress and the State Legislatures.
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
I wasn't being serious just pointing out that having this discussion on RIU isn't going to have any effect on anything, unless you just like to be affirmed
I don't need affirmation. This is something that I am very passionate about. Do you think that everyone on this site votes? Does everyone attend rallies? Is everyone on RIU a member of a pro-cannabis organization? I doubt it. So If one person reading this joins an organization or gets involved somehow then I've accompished something. Many people believe that they don't make a difference. Everyone makes a difference if they are involved. And besides, if I can't have this discussion on here amongst friends and like minded individuals then where can I have it?
 

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
its a good thing i live in the united states where we can post and say WHATEVER THE FUCK WE WANT. unless they actually get a warrant from your posts on this site, they can not enter your residence without permission... if johnny law comes a knockin' you say "NO OFFICER PIG, YOU CANNOT COME IN" and shut the fucking door in his face. since our first constitutional right is freedom of speech to say whatever the fuck we want about whatever the fuck we want they will never be able to get a warrant from this or any other web site as long as you dont give them probable cause with pictures or by saying shit like "i live in manchester, new hampshire at 2938643 oak ave and i have 5 huge marijuana plants in my backyard come see them!!" so stop worrying if you live in the USA. if you live elsewhere.... it sucks for you. unless its canada or amsterdam haha!

Well, in the United States *I* live in, they absolutely CAN enter your residence without permission (or a warrant).

Never be able to get a warrant from a web site, eh?

Wow... you're extremely confident in your ignorance.
 

Green Cross

Well-Known Member
Well, in the United States *I* live in, they absolutely CAN enter your residence without permission (or a warrant).

Never be able to get a warrant from a web site, eh?

Wow... you're extremely confident in your ignorance.
Is there a second US I'm unaware of, because "without a search warrant, police cannot enter you home under any circumstances."

WARNING: If a police officer asks your permission to search your home you are under no obligation to consent. The only reason he's asking you is because he doesn't have enough evidence to search without your consent. If you consent to a search request you give up one of the most important constitutional rights you have -- your Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
A majority of avoidable police searches occur because citizens naively waive their Fourth Amendment rights by consenting to warrantless searches. As a general rule, if a person consents to a warrantless search, the search automatically becomes reasonable and therefore legal. Consequently, whatever an officer finds during such a search can be used to convict the person.
Don't expect a police officer to tell you about your right not to consent. Police officers are not required by law to inform you of your rights before asking you to consent to a search. In addition, police officers are trained to use their authority to get people to consent to a search, and most people are predisposed to comply with any request a police officer makes. For example, the average motorist stopped by a police officer who asks them, "Would you mind if I search your vehicle, please?" will probably consent to the officer's search without realizing that they have every right to deny the officer's request.
If, for any reason you don't want the officer digging through your belongings, you should refuse to consent by saying something like, "Officer, I know you want to do your job, but I do not consent to any searches of my private property." If the officer still proceeds to search you and finds illegal contraband, your attorney can argue that the contraband was discovered through an illegal search and hence should be thrown out of court.
You should never hesitate to assert your constitutional rights. Just say "NO"!
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
Is there a second US I'm unaware of, because "without a search warrant, police cannot enter you home under any circumstances."

WARNING: If a police officer asks your permission to search your home you are under no obligation to consent. The only reason he's asking you is because he doesn't have enough evidence to search without your consent. If you consent to a search request you give up one of the most important constitutional rights you have -- your Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
A majority of avoidable police searches occur because citizens naively waive their Fourth Amendment rights by consenting to warrantless searches. As a general rule, if a person consents to a warrantless search, the search automatically becomes reasonable and therefore legal. Consequently, whatever an officer finds during such a search can be used to convict the person.
Don't expect a police officer to tell you about your right not to consent. Police officers are not required by law to inform you of your rights before asking you to consent to a search. In addition, police officers are trained to use their authority to get people to consent to a search, and most people are predisposed to comply with any request a police officer makes. For example, the average motorist stopped by a police officer who asks them, "Would you mind if I search your vehicle, please?" will probably consent to the officer's search without realizing that they have every right to deny the officer's request.
If, for any reason you don't want the officer digging through your belongings, you should refuse to consent by saying something like, "Officer, I know you want to do your job, but I do not consent to any searches of my private property." If the officer still proceeds to search you and finds illegal contraband, your attorney can argue that the contraband was discovered through an illegal search and hence should be thrown out of court.
You should never hesitate to assert your constitutional rights. Just say "NO"!
That is not exactly true. They can enter if someone is in danger. If they see something in plane sight like a bong or weed they can come in. There are ways around search warrants. They also do what are called "knock and talks". If given permission to enter by the homeowner they definitely can come in that way.
 

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
Is there a second US I'm unaware of, because "without a search warrant, police cannot enter you home under any circumstances."

WARNING: If a police officer asks your permission to search your home you are under no obligation to consent. The only reason he's asking you is because he doesn't have enough evidence to search without your consent. If you consent to a search request you give up one of the most important constitutional rights you have -- your Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
A majority of avoidable police searches occur because citizens naively waive their Fourth Amendment rights by consenting to warrantless searches. As a general rule, if a person consents to a warrantless search, the search automatically becomes reasonable and therefore legal. Consequently, whatever an officer finds during such a search can be used to convict the person.
Don't expect a police officer to tell you about your right not to consent. Police officers are not required by law to inform you of your rights before asking you to consent to a search. In addition, police officers are trained to use their authority to get people to consent to a search, and most people are predisposed to comply with any request a police officer makes. For example, the average motorist stopped by a police officer who asks them, "Would you mind if I search your vehicle, please?" will probably consent to the officer's search without realizing that they have every right to deny the officer's request.
If, for any reason you don't want the officer digging through your belongings, you should refuse to consent by saying something like, "Officer, I know you want to do your job, but I do not consent to any searches of my private property." If the officer still proceeds to search you and finds illegal contraband, your attorney can argue that the contraband was discovered through an illegal search and hence should be thrown out of court.
You should never hesitate to assert your constitutional rights. Just say "NO"!

LOL! Where'd you get this snippet from? I guess it doesn't matter, seeing as it's completely misleading anyway.

Here's the REAL rub on warrantless entry:



The Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution requires that the police have a warrant to enter a suspect’s home to seize evidence. It follows that one of the principles of the Fourth Amendment is that searches and seizures inside a home without a warrant are presumed unreasonable.i However, the United States Supreme Court has carved out certain exceptions to the above rule. For example, generally, police may enter a home without a warrant based on consent, when in hot pursuit, in order to prevent the imminent destruction of evidence, to prevent escape, and to protect someone in the residence from imminent physical danger.



http://www.llrmi.com/articles/legal_update/destruction-of-evidence-and-warrantless-home-entry.shtml
 

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
That is not exactly true. They can enter if someone is in danger. If they see something in plane sight like a bong or weed they can come in. There are ways around search warrants. They also do what are called "knock and talks". If given permission to enter by the homeowner they definitely can come in that way.


Thanks for backing me up there, doc. Glad to see I'm not the only one under the false impression that a warrant is *always* required.

We must be two of the only citizens of the real United States. Everyone else is living in fantasyland.
 

NewGrowth

Well-Known Member
I remember on OG there was a guy with a screen name "LEO" something or another. He was actually a cop and gave all kinds of great advice on not getting caught. Any other old guys from OG remember who I'm talking about?
 
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