Autoflower Vs 12/12 from seed --I want to settle this

[oasis515]

from what i have been hearing and reading it looks as though

*autos are not as potent as 12/12 from seed "can" be*autos finish more quickly
* usually 12/12 is a better yield unless the autoflower is more on the sativa side (still unclear)
*12/12 from clone is tha way to go for more productive quick yield.
* autos cannot be cloned or re-vegged


seems like 12/12 would be wiser+less expensive for seeds.
Yield results still look the same between both.

 

[snail240]

I dunno my buddy only grows autos and some of that stuff is better then anything around its all genetics man. Put it this way Autos could be the future no way of knowing quite yet how they will react after they are breed out so much to other good genes.

I dont think anyone knows how long it can be bred out to other strains without being unstable or some seeds being autos and some not. Genetics are a crazy thing should look into it.

 

[oasis515]

Here is a pic of the auto i've grown-

the other three non autos vegged for three weeks and were then put under 13/11 then 12/12.

 

[oasis515]

another one

 

[jonboy30]

just finished reading through the thread...great topics btw....the question you asked is a heated debate between growers alike. So, upon my research and studying, I figured why the hell not and grow some autos. A little later, I decided to grow 12/12 from seed. Everything that people have said is entirely true. Just remember...you're not growing for anyone else but yourself. Grow your crop in ways to fit your style/needs/environment.
Growing 12/12 from seed will harvest a 3-3 1/2 ft tall plant with an average of 1 gm/watt. I have my 12/12 from seed growing under a 150 watt hps currently, and I have 3 Automatic Little Angels growing outdoors. My auto's are about 2 2 1/2 feet tall with just a little bud, but they still have some time to fill in. They sprouted July 7th and I'm rounding the 8-9 week period where the breeder says they should be done...but I don't think this holds true.
All in all, I'm not really that too impressed by the way auto's grow. THey stink like hell, but they don't hold a torch next to my 7 footers...
I also don't think I'll be spending all that hard earned dough on fem autos again either.

 

[oasis515]

just finished reading through the thread...great topics btw....the question you asked is a heated debate between growers alike. So, upon my research and studying, I figured why the hell not and grow some autos. A little later, I decided to grow 12/12 from seed. Everything that people have said is entirely true. Just remember...you're not growing for anyone else but yourself. Grow your crop in ways to fit your style/needs/environment.
Growing 12/12 from seed will harvest a 3-3 1/2 ft tall plant with an average of 1 gm/watt. I have my 12/12 from seed growing under a 150 watt hps currently, and I have 3 Automatic Little Angels growing outdoors. My auto's are about 2 2 1/2 feet tall with just a little bud, but they still have some time to fill in. They sprouted July 7th and I'm rounding the 8-9 week period where the breeder says they should be done...but I don't think this holds true.
All in all, I'm not really that too impressed by the way auto's grow. THey stink like hell, but they don't hold a torch next to my 7 footers...
I also don't think I'll be spending all that hard earned dough on fem autos again either.

Hey thanks.I appreciate the feedback.
It looks like my auto will be maybe 10-11 weeks. Only a few hairs have turned orange/red and tirchs are mostly cloudy. I'm hoping two weeks more is sufficient.if i'm lucky i'll get an Oz.

Tho a lot of people talk garbage on AF's- i think it's not a bad idea for people to try out an autoflower with a grow just to have the experience with them. Just make sure you can provide them with a seperate light cycle.

What is the avg yield on a seven footer btw??? must be nice.

 

[jonboy30]

Hey thanks.I appreciate the feedback.
It looks like my auto will be maybe 10-11 weeks. Only a few hairs have turned orange/red and tirchs are mostly cloudy. I'm hoping two weeks more is sufficient.if i'm lucky i'll get an Oz.

Tho a lot of people talk garbage on AF's- i think it's not a bad idea for people to try out an autoflower with a grow just to have the experience with them. Just make sure you can provide them with a seperate light cycle.

What is the avg yield on a seven footer btw??? must be nice.

Don't really know...first outdoor grow...I'm guessing 1 to 1 1/2 lbs maybe...from what the breeder says...and mine's 1 foot taller than the breeder says it should be...I'd be happy with an ounce...just really cool to see the plant's stages of life/process...Peace

 

[donkeyote]

it would be an interesting experiment for someone to grow a couple auto AK's on a 20/4 light schedule, right next to a normal AK on 12/12 from seed. Both getting the same nutes, and germing at the same time, and making a record of growth rates, yield, potency, and finishing time. That's the only way to get a true scientific answer to the OP's question, IMO.

 

[jonboy30]

it would be an interesting experiment for someone to grow a couple auto AK's on a 20/4 light schedule, right next to a normal AK on 12/12 from seed. Both getting the same nutes, and germing at the same time, and making a record of growth rates, yield, potency, and finishing time. That's the only way to get a true scientific answer to the OP's question, IMO.

very note worthy...and good idea, but alot of attention to detail also...
i just put up a 12/12 from seed thread you guys should check out!
Peace~

 

[Wolfrick]

from what i have been hearing and reading it looks as though

*autos are not as potent as 12/12 from seed "can" be*autos finish more quickly
* usually 12/12 is a better yield unless the autoflower is more on the sativa side (still unclear)
*12/12 from clone is tha way to go for more productive quick yield.
* autos cannot be cloned or re-vegged


seems like 12/12 would be wiser+less expensive for seeds.
Yield results still look the same between both.

You can't clone dwarf strains? Then surely auto-flower plants are more of a hassle. You'd have to have a stockpile of seeds and you can't maintain stability with genetics either.

 

[luvvin growin]

yep,the only real drawback with AF's is the fact that you have to start them from seed,which is kinda f'd,but it also should appeal to the purists,b/c you have to start from seed.It's a 6 of one half dozen of the other kind of situation.

 

[oasis515]

just wondering if anyone knows anything about bud formation on AFs? I mean... do the buds form/mature the same way, just independent of light cycle? Judgung by bud hair color- My auto seems like the top buds are way more ready than the bottom but i thought it was supposed to be the other way around...

 

[oasis515]

so it looks like poll voting is at 11 to 10 in favor of 12/12 from seed. Still close-nothing as been settled

 

[400Whps]

AUTOFLOWER! alot of people probably choose the 12/12 from seed becouse theyre not used to change.
from what i have read and smoked auto's are great(im startign some soon)
http://www.marijuana-seeds-canada.com/products/joint-doctors-diesel-ryder it says 17-19%, close enough to 20
I personally feel when companies put these numbers it just for shits'n'giggles to get more customers.
THC content depends on the situation at hand. cant rely on their accounts.
If you seed out your first auto-batch you wont need to buy seeds for a long time
thanks

 

[marmarb]

my 2 cents i currently have a fem diesel ryder at 7 weeks shes about a ft tall maybe a little more one main cola and smelly as shit first time with good seeds doesnt look like its gonna yield much mabye a oz but its undef clfs gonna get a digital 400 watter from htg this week also new seeds have arrived from attitude today have a 10 pk reg of auto ak-47 auto white russin and 3 fem easy ryders with a bunch of freebies gonna be doing a seed run in one tent all with be fucked by which ever is the best male either white russin or ak-47 gonna pop a auto easy rider in some dirt today grow long will begin when she sprout good growing

 

[Heads Up]

I've never tried auto flowering strains but I just received a 'roadrunner' from the attitude with my order as a freebie, it sounds great from the info. My very first grow was from 12/12 with bagseed under t-5's in the top of my closet. I grew them in twenty ounce cups from start to finish, no transplanting. The yield was horrendous, I did everything possible to kill them but they grew anyway. From seed by day twenty seven they had all shown their sex. The weed itself was really good, very tasty and thc covered.

 

[frizzayy]

it would be an interesting experiment for someone to grow a couple auto AK's on a 20/4 light schedule, right next to a normal AK on 12/12 from seed. Both getting the same nutes, and germing at the same time, and making a record of growth rates, yield, potency, and finishing time. That's the only way to get a true scientific answer to the OP's question, IMO.

Old thread but I have grown ak auto ww from 12:12 worked great imo

 

[Puff_Dragon]

As frizzayy said.
Autos these days are up there with your average photoperiod strains (imo). However, there are photoperiod strains (like Nl5xHaze for example) that the breeders (Sensi Seeds) recommend you put under 12/12 from start (clones) as it grows so damn fast (i can attest to this). Where doing this with some other strains will leave you with a tiny (12/18 inch) flowering plant Gives you a faster turnaround, same dry weight and saves on elecy (in the uk electric is often pricey)

 

[frizzayy]

As frizzayy said.
Autos these days are up there with your average photoperiod strains (imo). However, there are photoperiod strains (like Nl5xHaze for example) that the breeders (Sensi Seeds) recommend you put under 12/12 from start (clones) as it grows so damn fast (i can attest to this). Where doing this with some other strains will leave you with a tiny (12/18 inch) flowering plant Gives you a faster turnaround, same dry weight and saves on elecy (in the uk electric is often pricey -------my mannnn

 

[vertnugs]

get a really good scale and a kif box break up a gram of the nugg and kif it and see how much weight u get if its .1 its 10% thc if its .2 its 20% only problem is all the other shit like cbd cbn will be included but it will give u an idea

The amount of resin a plant produces does not in any way equate to the percentage of thc.

If that is the case i have some old critical romulan from Classic seeds going that "looks" like it would hit 40% thc.

I have a cross of moonshinehaze crossed with old federation stock off Islandsweetskunk....fairly decent resin production.....this plant is quite a bit more potent than my critical rom...mmmm

Back in the day i smoked bud that you could hardly see any heads on it at all......knocked my dick in the dirt.