Katatawnic
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Check out this thread.... Lots of coco-specific info, and there always seems to be someone answering questions.
Pics of the new girls
- Thread starter M Blaze
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johnnywriight
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good god man, im in awe
M Blaze
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Yeah these were over 2lbs each plant (although one was under 2lbs so the other 2 were over). Thats a great yield indoors so dont get me wrong but in the past we have had plants yield 3-4lbs each indoors. There is no secrets behind my methods and everything throughout this grow was documented (roughly) and dated so you can see exactly how they were grown.
Oh and no soil just a 100% coco blend.
Gidday blaze great diary you have and unbelievable grow! Im a tree grower and
thought my 1.25 elbows a plant "recirc system" was ok, ive never tried coco but I think after watching you I may give it a bash and see. Do you have any bug problems with the coco also was wondering if youve tried cyco flower? Have a good break you'l need it after the cut
Have a good one mate
thought my 1.25 elbows a plant "recirc system" was ok, ive never tried coco but I think after watching you I may give it a bash and see. Do you have any bug problems with the coco also was wondering if youve tried cyco flower? Have a good break you'l need it after the cut
Have a good one mate
M Blaze
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No ive never had any bug problems before and ive never tried Cyco products before.
This is the 15gal pots that I use with the Nutrifield coco blend. Some potting mix was added to top it up as you can see in the darker shading then some more coco was put on top once we got some more.
This trees roots were not as big as others ive had in the past but you can see they still have a bit of room left to move.
You can see at the bottom there is some gauze type sheeting to stop the roots from going into the lower pot and blocking up the drainage hole. I learnt that the hard way lol.
This is the 15gal pots that I use with the Nutrifield coco blend. Some potting mix was added to top it up as you can see in the darker shading then some more coco was put on top once we got some more.
This trees roots were not as big as others ive had in the past but you can see they still have a bit of room left to move.
You can see at the bottom there is some gauze type sheeting to stop the roots from going into the lower pot and blocking up the drainage hole. I learnt that the hard way lol.
Wretched420
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WOWNo ive never had any bug problems before and ive never tried Cyco products before.
This is the 15gal pots that I use with the Nutrifield coco blend. Some potting mix was added to top it up as you can see in the darker shading then some more coco was put on top once we got some more.
This trees roots were not as big as others ive had in the past but you can see they still have a bit of room left to move.
You can see at the bottom there is some gauze type sheeting to stop the roots from going into the lower pot and blocking up the drainage hole. I learnt that the hard way lol.
Yeah they're the same pots I use 50litres i think but I put socks on and I still got a clean out the roots
from the lines usually when I turn and towards the end too,im really keen to try it your way
but im a bit scared of loosing that much from the bottom I know the top buds will gain!im an
old dinosaur and not used to change I thought I heard somewhere about coco atracting bugs
or something I guess im wrong,that trunks a monster how long did you veg her for
love the pics very inspurational blaze you one hell of a grower mate
cheers nods
from the lines usually when I turn and towards the end too,im really keen to try it your way
but im a bit scared of loosing that much from the bottom I know the top buds will gain!im an
old dinosaur and not used to change I thought I heard somewhere about coco atracting bugs
or something I guess im wrong,that trunks a monster how long did you veg her for
love the pics very inspurational blaze you one hell of a grower mate
cheers nods
M Blaze
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I have sometimes had some very small fly type bugs that hung around the base and the coco but they never caused any problem. I didnt have them last time round so I think the outside weather might be the cause of them at certain times during the year.
I know what you mean about trimming coz it is hard to do the first time but once you see the end results you start to look at the plant differently during veg. You get to know which branches to cut off and which branches to trim up.
Cheers
You Think its to late to trim some of the bottom now im 3 weeks into flower now I probably would'nt do it to your extent this time round just a few inches or you think its to risky just worried about stressing them a bit thx for your help m blaze
cheers nods
Mammath
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Those little flying bugs are fungus gnats.
More a pain in the arse than anything.
Problem is the adults lays about 200 eggs a day, so you don't need to many of them to piss ya off.
The adults feed on dead leaf matter and the larvae feed on the fine roots.
Established plants don't seem to be affected by them too much but I think they could do damage to seedling.
The coco-coir makes an attractive nesting ground because it's always moist but weather you get them or not depends on many things.
The benefits of growing in coco far out weigh these negatives though.
A coco grow is a 'drain to waste' affair too, so it may not suit everyone.
Never to late to trim the shitty bottom growth out.
3 weeks in sounds fine
More a pain in the arse than anything.
Problem is the adults lays about 200 eggs a day, so you don't need to many of them to piss ya off.
The adults feed on dead leaf matter and the larvae feed on the fine roots.
Established plants don't seem to be affected by them too much but I think they could do damage to seedling.
The coco-coir makes an attractive nesting ground because it's always moist but weather you get them or not depends on many things.
The benefits of growing in coco far out weigh these negatives though.
A coco grow is a 'drain to waste' affair too, so it may not suit everyone.
Never to late to trim the shitty bottom growth out.
3 weeks in sounds fine
Gidday Mammath yeah ive got a few of those buggers flying around but put a few of the sticky
traps arounds the bottom base and that seems to have done the trick,only caught about 5 have'nt seen any in a couple days now
and i dont see any larvua in the brain or on top after watering "cross Fingers" I'll trim some from the bottom in the morning
thanks for your help and have a good one
cheers nods
traps arounds the bottom base and that seems to have done the trick,only caught about 5 have'nt seen any in a couple days now
and i dont see any larvua in the brain or on top after watering "cross Fingers" I'll trim some from the bottom in the morning
thanks for your help and have a good one
cheers nods
M Blaze
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Ahh cheers for tellin me what those little fuckers are, but as I said they have never bothered me or the plants. I have never got to a point were I see eggs laid. Ive never seen more than about 20 at once and thats usually during the warmer months from memory.Those little flying bugs are fungus gnats.
More a pain in the arse than anything.
Problem is the adults lays about 200 eggs a day, so you don't need to many of them to piss ya off.
The adults feed on dead leaf matter and the larvae feed on the fine roots.
Established plants don't seem to be affected by them too much but I think they could do damage to seedling.
The coco-coir makes an attractive nesting ground because it's always moist but weather you get them or not depends on many things.
The benefits of growing in coco far out weigh these negatives though.
A coco grow is a 'drain to waste' affair too, so it may not suit everyone.
Never to late to trim the shitty bottom growth out.
3 weeks in sounds fine
And yes Mammath is also spot on about the trimming. There is no problem with trimming anytime in my opinion. I usually like to get most of my trimming done during veg but the plants seem to grow so quick after a good trim that they need another one soon after. The growth that a well trimmed tree can have still amazes me and stress is never an issue.
This is a branch that was trimmed up and the result of only 3 or 4 days growth after was much better than being left untrimmed.
Before:
After:
M Blaze
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Yeah those sticky traps are good to catch them so they are a good cheap addition to the growroom if you have bug problems.Gidday Mammath yeah ive got a few of those buggers flying around but put a few of the sticky
traps arounds the bottom base and that seems to have done the trick,only caught about 5 have'nt seen any in a couple days now
and i dont see any larvua in the brain or on top after watering "cross Fingers" I'll trim some from the bottom in the morning
thanks for your help and have a good one
cheers nods
Mammath
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Those gnats lay their eggs in the top layer of the soil so you won't ever see eggs.
Sticky traps are good for catching adults as well as many other great ideas here on RIU if you do a search.
You also need to attack the larvae which are the buggers that are the main trouble.
There are solutions you can run through your medium to kill them or you can buy predator mites like 'hypoaspis' that feed on the larvae.
Sticky traps are good for catching adults as well as many other great ideas here on RIU if you do a search.
You also need to attack the larvae which are the buggers that are the main trouble.
There are solutions you can run through your medium to kill them or you can buy predator mites like 'hypoaspis' that feed on the larvae.
Gidday Mammath A couple of years back I had a run in with scarib flys from over watering I think made the mistake of checking my water timer and forgot to turn it off,walked in the next morning and my jaw hit the ground when I heard it still running
anyway ive still got some of that drench from then but dont like to use it unless its an emergency smells so potent!! live and learn hey ,and m blaze ive also had the lines block from the roots and ended up with the pots overflowing he he gotta laugh
Cheers guys
Katatawnic
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I trimmed my LST babies (day 4 of 12/12) this afternoon. I cringed with each snip, feeling I should apologize to them for being so cruel.
Also kinda broke my heart to see soil through the foliage again. Not nearly as much circulation as I'd like urged me to do it. Seeing what it does for trees like yours helped me cave. 
I'm sure they'll be bushier than ever quite soon. 
Planning on getting coco this month for my seedlings going now. Wish I'd have known about it before I switched to soil, but oh well. I'll just be considered a "versatile" grower.
jamesmadison
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Where do you get the "grow hard" and "grow big" I cant find it anywhere. All the other things I have found. Do you have a website where I could get them or a phone number, maybe off the bottle.
Thanks
JM
Thanks
JM
jamesmadison
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That message is directed to you M Blaze.
M Blaze
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Growhard is an Australian company and this is their website: http://growhardaustralia.com/
Ive never bought directly from them before so im not sure what they are like to deal with. The only Growhard products I use are the Budmeister and the Liquid Lead. Are you also reffering to Grotek Monster bloom and Monster grow? If so heres a link to the Grotek site: http://www.grotek.net/products/guide/category.asp?category=nutrients
I prefer to buy all my stuff from one place and the only online shop I know of that ship worldwide and stock everything I use is: http://justhydroponics.com.au/index.php?p=home I have never used them personally but I know some people that have and im told their service is very good.