My First Grow! DIY DWC & Grow Area, SNOW WHITE FEM FROM SEED!

tmsculli

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Not with the nute situation, no.


BUT that is in the past man! So many people HAVE helped me, and that is all that matters brother man.


my pump and drip hub are here and assembled, so hello bubbleponics come tomorrow morning.

Also, those seeds I was messing around with are germinating really nicely. Tomorrow I will be going away from the 5 gallon personal bucket for my last Snow White, and setting up the tub again. I am going to be running the 21 gallon tote, the 100gallon air pump, a 60 gallon air pump, and a shit ton of cfls.

It's kinda like starting all over, but my one snow white lady is looking damnnn good.

I'll post some pictures shortly
 

purpdaddy

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Not with the nute situation, no.


BUT that is in the past man! So many people HAVE helped me, and that is all that matters brother man.


my pump and drip hub are here and assembled, so hello bubbleponics come tomorrow morning.

Also, those seeds I was messing around with are germinating really nicely. Tomorrow I will be going away from the 5 gallon personal bucket for my last Snow White, and setting up the tub again. I am going to be running the 21 gallon tote, the 100gallon air pump, a 60 gallon air pump, and a shit ton of cfls.

It's kinda like starting all over, but my one snow white lady is looking damnnn good.

I'll post some pictures shortly
Well..i never saw your post or you never pmd the prob to me..what is it i may can help
 

tmsculli

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Big Purp, you are my go to guy sir. I didn't think that there was a problem, so I didn't ask. Please don't take that above post personally, I really did not mean for it to be presented that way. (I have had some serious shit going on in the real world).

Farmer, thanks for checking up on me brother, I actually was looking at your stuff the other day, looks great.
 

purpdaddy

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Not with the nute situation, no.
:mrgreen:No man by far am i taking this in the wrong way im cool calm and collected,i just thought you posted a question about your nutes and didnt get a reply or final answer to a problem you were having that i could help:mrgreen:
 

tmsculli

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Well, I have a VERY serious question right now, so help is appreciated!!

I just got my pump and hub set up for my bubbleponics. I have everything rigged up great (pics are uploading now)

THe only issue is this. The hub said 2gph drip. That sounds fine I guess, but once in the netpot with the plant, I am afraid that it is going to drown it. I don't think I can adjust anything on it. there is currently only the one port open and only going to one plant.


Is it supposed to water this much? It makes it so that a steady stream is coming fgrom the bottom of my net pot.
 

tmsculli

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Here is the pump working with no hose on it






i was high...


Here are some Day 13 pics from yesterday






The rest of the pictures are uploading now, I will post the pump situation pics once they finish!
 

tmsculli

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Day 14







Day 14 Root Porn




My Bubble action



Water pump line






THIS IS WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT. Look how thick the constant stream is....


 

bloatedcraig

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Should be fine man, it doesn't really matter all thah much as you are pumping oxygenated water onto the roots so your not going to downed them.
 

tmsculli

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Oh really is that how it works? Excellent! Now I am excited!

So, I was germing some of those shitty seeds, and they almost ALL popped. So now I had to make some changes. Since the little seedlings can't start off in the same system as my lady, because she has nutes in her, the Lady I have now, the snow white, is in her bucket with her ridiculous air pump and her drip system. I put her in the box I made with a newly designed lighting fixture. The reflection of the box is better than the walls, but I don't have a hood for it yet, so I have to make one up for it.

I am now trying to figure out how to permanently plug those damn drain holes that I drilled still. I don't even need them to drain, I just wnat them to not leak. I have tried 10 different times and no success.
 

tmsculli

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Nice, well that makes me feel a hell of a lot better =]

I am building another tub now for the middie babies and later for clones etc.
 

tmsculli

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Day 15

Everything looks really really good today. I just got back from my 8am class and checked on lil miss Snow White and all is well. She is happy as can be, little shaking in the fan breeze waving at me. Root growth is absurd, and I am already seeing the leaf growth in very noticable portions. Bubbleponics really does boost this process incredibly. This is true to the point that I am going to buy another pump and hub to use with my other babies in the tote rather than just spoil Snow White.


I was thinking that the box I made was going to go to waste, but after moving it in there I am really really happy with the results. The box is lined in mylar, and I built another reflective hood. It retains heat very well and keeps everything concise and organized.

Remember when I kept freaking out about my intake and exhaust in the beginning? Well, now I have learned that I should not underestimate my calculations and abilities. I actually had to turn off the 8" fan on the ceiling to keep the temps where they should be. The little 4" 75cfm fan that is on top of the box is cranking, quiet, and makes me very happy that it is working so well. Hopefully I can keep this up =]


Now, it's time for the bat signal...


BIG PURPPPPP
BLOATED CRAIGGGGGG

You guys have both been my guidance counselors through this, along with a few others, but you two are the ones that are here every day checking on me. I really appreciate it and I have a question that is very very important.


Purp, I took your advice and on Day 13, I did the 1/4 nute solution. Since then, the browning on the leaves has not gotten worse, and I don't think that I have seen too much else developing. That being said, how do I know when to give more nutes? I could obviously wait until I see another problem, and then fix it, but I would rather just be prepared and have things set up in advance for smooth sailing. Is there a time limit that the nutes stay in the solution, or does that change per plant and system? I know that with the bubbleponics set up now, that nutrient solution and water are being pumped into the plant much faster than before.

So my question for you guys is this:

What is the deal with nutes? Out of all the research I have done, they seem to confuse me the most out of everything else that there is with growing. There are no current problems, but I know that I will get some if I don't get the answers I am looking for soon to figure out how the nute situation works. Do I need to get a ppm meter? Is that the best/trusted way to keep track of concentration of the nutes over time?

Thanks a lot guys!
 

purpdaddy

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Day 15

Everything looks really really good today. I just got back from my 8am class and checked on lil miss Snow White and all is well. She is happy as can be, little shaking in the fan breeze waving at me. Root growth is absurd, and I am already seeing the leaf growth in very noticable portions. Bubbleponics really does boost this process incredibly. This is true to the point that I am going to buy another pump and hub to use with my other babies in the tote rather than just spoil Snow White.


I was thinking that the box I made was going to go to waste, but after moving it in there I am really really happy with the results. The box is lined in mylar, and I built another reflective hood. It retains heat very well and keeps everything concise and organized.

Remember when I kept freaking out about my intake and exhaust in the beginning? Well, now I have learned that I should not underestimate my calculations and abilities. I actually had to turn off the 8" fan on the ceiling to keep the temps where they should be. The little 4" 75cfm fan that is on top of the box is cranking, quiet, and makes me very happy that it is working so well. Hopefully I can keep this up =]


Now, it's time for the bat signal...


BIG PURPPPPP
BLOATED CRAIGGGGGG

You guys have both been my guidance counselors through this, along with a few others, but you two are the ones that are here every day checking on me. I really appreciate it and I have a question that is very very important.


Purp, I took your advice and on Day 13, I did the 1/4 nute solution. Since then, the browning on the leaves has not gotten worse, and I don't think that I have seen too much else developing. That being said, how do I know when to give more nutes? I could obviously wait until I see another problem, and then fix it, but I would rather just be prepared and have things set up in advance for smooth sailing. Is there a time limit that the nutes stay in the solution, or does that change per plant and system? I know that with the bubbleponics set up now, that nutrient solution and water are being pumped into the plant much faster than before.

So my question for you guys is this:

What is the deal with nutes? Out of all the research I have done, they seem to confuse me the most out of everything else that there is with growing. There are no current problems, but I know that I will get some if I don't get the answers I am looking for soon to figure out how the nute situation works. Do I need to get a ppm meter? Is that the best/trusted way to keep track of concentration of the nutes over time?

Thanks a lot guys!
No new growth? When the water gets too low in the res,,then you change it or add more water with nutes
 

tmsculli

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There is new growth, but I don't know how much growth I should be seeing, let me upload the pics and you can compare to yesterdays and advise accordingly?


I just ordered my ppm meter and ph meter too.
 

bloatedcraig

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Day 15

Everything looks really really good today. I just got back from my 8am class and checked on lil miss Snow White and all is well. She is happy as can be, little shaking in the fan breeze waving at me. Root growth is absurd, and I am already seeing the leaf growth in very noticable portions. Bubbleponics really does boost this process incredibly. This is true to the point that I am going to buy another pump and hub to use with my other babies in the tote rather than just spoil Snow White.


I was thinking that the box I made was going to go to waste, but after moving it in there I am really really happy with the results. The box is lined in mylar, and I built another reflective hood. It retains heat very well and keeps everything concise and organized.

Remember when I kept freaking out about my intake and exhaust in the beginning? Well, now I have learned that I should not underestimate my calculations and abilities. I actually had to turn off the 8" fan on the ceiling to keep the temps where they should be. The little 4" 75cfm fan that is on top of the box is cranking, quiet, and makes me very happy that it is working so well. Hopefully I can keep this up =]


Now, it's time for the bat signal...


BIG PURPPPPP
BLOATED CRAIGGGGGG

You guys have both been my guidance counselors through this, along with a few others, but you two are the ones that are here every day checking on me. I really appreciate it and I have a question that is very very important.


Purp, I took your advice and on Day 13, I did the 1/4 nute solution. Since then, the browning on the leaves has not gotten worse, and I don't think that I have seen too much else developing. That being said, how do I know when to give more nutes? I could obviously wait until I see another problem, and then fix it, but I would rather just be prepared and have things set up in advance for smooth sailing. Is there a time limit that the nutes stay in the solution, or does that change per plant and system? I know that with the bubbleponics set up now, that nutrient solution and water are being pumped into the plant much faster than before.

So my question for you guys is this:

What is the deal with nutes? Out of all the research I have done, they seem to confuse me the most out of everything else that there is with growing. There are no current problems, but I know that I will get some if I don't get the answers I am looking for soon to figure out how the nute situation works. Do I need to get a ppm meter? Is that the best/trusted way to keep track of concentration of the nutes over time?

Thanks a lot guys!
When you are doing a activie hydro you should be working with ppm a lot closer than if you was growing in soil.

Also i think you are suppoesed to add fresh water and nutes ever two weeks because the plants use up more of some nutes than they do of others and after two week the solution becaomes unbalanced.

Start feeding the little buggers after two weeks with quarter strength nutes (i would have said for bubbleing). Then 2 weeks later half, then hit the flowering switch then three quarters for two week then hammer the arse out of them with full for the remaineder of the flowering period.

That is the easiest way to do it if you dont want to messy around with ppm or EC. PPm i think should be 400, 800, 1200, 1600 to 1800, but dont take my word for it, check the FAQ at the top or ask ROSEMAN he will know.
 

tmsculli

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Bloated, sounds good man. I just ordered my meter so hopefully I will get that soon. I am kind of afraid of the whole water/nute change deal haha.
 

tmsculli

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Here is how she stands as of 20 minutes ago.


If you scroll back and compare to the older pics, am I looking okay? I am hoping I am not stunting her growth because of lack of nutrients.

Also, how high should I try to keep the water at this point, with a full root system adn all?
 

purpdaddy

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Bloated, sounds good man. I just ordered my meter so hopefully I will get that soon. I am kind of afraid of the whole water/nute change deal haha.
Its not that hard,,i mix up enouigh nutes for 7 days,,in 7 days i drain and replenish with new nutes and water..that simple
 

bloatedcraig

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this is not my info it is something i have on the conputer (original author Shabang)

It's simple to find out if you are using too much food or not enough by watching the nutrient concentration levels in your tanks day to day. Don't be concerned with the exact reading, rather watch how it rises and falls from each day to the next. The differences between when you put the solution into the tank and the readings you get several hours later or the next day are what tell you if your plant is eating, drinking or happy.

Start with 1.00 EC (or a SAFE nutrient strength). Next day, if it reads 1.4, it means your plants have been using water and your nutrient solution is becoming more concentrated. This means the concentration of nutrients is too high, so you dilute.

If the meter reads lower than the previous day, 0.7 say, it tells you that the plants are eating nutrients faster than they are drinking water, so you should increase your nutrient strength. If it remains the same, your feeding schedule is on target for now. The nutrient/water intake fluctuates with the growth of the plant, so you must continually monitor it day to day.

Your plants will tell you the optimum nutrient levels. When they are receiving optimum food and water, the readings remain constant. The more you do it, the easier it gets. The reason no one can tell you what PPM/EC levels to use is because every garden is different and every plant has different requirements due to their particular environment. That's why you have a ball park starting figure, but after that your plants will tell you almost exactly what they require.
 
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