should i harvest?

HSJANITOR

Active Member
if i don't have a scope and i cant see my trics how can i tell when is a good time to harvest. im using a D W c diy system and its my first time with it and my leaves are very yellow. the bud it self looks good, about half red hairs half white. i tried a magnafiying glass but i cant relly tell. Any advice would be helpful thanks.
 

Nocturn3

Well-Known Member
If you can't get access to a scope, I believe the recommended time to harvest is at about 80% red pistils. Not the most reliable indicator, but better than nothing.

If you can be bothered, and have access to the materials, you can make a diy scope by sticking the lens from a CD player in front of a cell phone's camera. Info here.
 

HSJANITOR

Active Member
its bag seed, im using fox farm nutes its 13 weeks old i vegged for about 5 weeks. i don't have a good ph meter i use strips and they read between 6 and 7 on the color scale where my ph is at.
 

Cali chronic

Well-Known Member
get scope, i'm telling you i just did. 12 bucks radio shak 30-100 2 aa batts you then be looking into the jewels with clarity.
 

Brick Top

New Member
I never, NEVER like to give any advice about harvesting by any other method than trichome color and trichome color alone. BUT if you absolutely cannot get even a $12.00 from Radio Shack about as close as you can get to guessing right would be wait until 50%-80% of the white pistils (hairs) have turned dark (usually brown or red).

If you had a scope to look at them at about that time, depending of course on the genetics of the strain, you would find that roughly 10% of your trichomes would have turned amber, again depending on genetics and also the difference between 50% to 80% in pistil color change. If you gamble and wait much longer you risk losing THC.
 
If you end up harvesting a little early the maximum level of THC will not have been reached but you will get an increased amount of clear head high over if you harvest to late and then THC production has peaked but then began to degrade creating increased levels of CBN.

If the 50% to 80% pistil color change is accurate enough to keep you within the window of opportunity where THC production has just peaked and just before it is about to drop due to oxidation then you will be happy with what you got and did not lose anything at all.
 
The thing is if you would have amber trichomes they would show up on the tops first and that would likely mean the bottom portions would be all milky white/cloudy or at least turning milky white/cloudy so if you prefer more of a head high then you would want to pick a harvesting point closer to the 50% pistil color change time. Your colas are big producers and it you want your biggest best buds to give you a head high more than a couch-lock body stone then you don’t want to risk waiting until the trichomes on your colas turn amber.
 
If you want more of a couch-lock body stone then at around the 80% range you should have roughly 10% amber trichomes and they would be on the tops of your plants, your biggest best buds, and then those lower that will get smaller and fluffier as you go down your plants will give less of a couch-lock body stone and more of a head high but by not allowing the top trichomes to age longer you reduce the chance of increased levels of CBN due to the oxidation/degradation/loss of THC.
 
Most likely you will not get lucky and harvest at the prime time but you can decide if you want to risk less THC because the plant had not hit peak THC levels or instead risk less THC because the THC that did exist had by then degraded into CBN, a less desirable cannabinoid that makes someone feel confused and messed up instead of stoned or high and also when smoked it will make you feel like you are just about getting high/stoned and then that’s it, nothing more, nada, zilch. It teases you instead of pleases you.
 
But again, you have to decide for yourself.
 

Closet Grow (BuD)

Active Member
I never, NEVER like to give any advice about harvesting by any other method than trichome color and trichome color alone. BUT if you absolutely cannot get even a $12.00 from Radio Shack about as close as you can get to guessing right would be wait until 50%-80% of the white pistils (hairs) have turned dark (usually brown or red).

If you had a scope to look at them at about that time, depending of course on the genetics of the strain, you would find that roughly 10% of your trichomes would have turned amber, again depending on genetics and also the difference between 50% to 80% in pistil color change. If you gamble and wait much longer you risk losing THC.
 
If you end up harvesting a little early the maximum level of THC will not have been reached but you will get an increased amount of clear head high over if you harvest to late and then THC production has peaked but then began to degrade creating increased levels of CBN.

If the 50% to 80% pistil color change is accurate enough to keep you within the window of opportunity where THC production has just peaked and just before it is about to drop due to oxidation then you will be happy with what you got and did not lose anything at all.
 
The thing is if you would have amber trichomes they would show up on the tops first and that would likely mean the bottom portions would be all milky white/cloudy or at least turning milky white/cloudy so if you prefer more of a head high then you would want to pick a harvesting point closer to the 50% pistil color change time. Your colas are big producers and it you want your biggest best buds to give you a head high more than a couch-lock body stone then you don’t want to risk waiting until the trichomes on your colas turn amber.
 
If you want more of a couch-lock body stone then at around the 80% range you should have roughly 10% amber trichomes and they would be on the tops of your plants, your biggest best buds, and then those lower that will get smaller and fluffier as you go down your plants will give less of a couch-lock body stone and more of a head high but by not allowing the top trichomes to age longer you reduce the chance of increased levels of CBN due to the oxidation/degradation/loss of THC.
 
Most likely you will not get lucky and harvest at the prime time but you can decide if you want to risk less THC because the plant had not hit peak THC levels or instead risk less THC because the THC that did exist had by then degraded into CBN, a less desirable cannabinoid that makes someone feel confused and messed up instead of stoned or high and also when smoked it will make you feel like you are just about getting high/stoned and then that’s it, nothing more, nada, zilch. It teases you instead of pleases you.
 
But again, you have to decide for yourself.
Lottaa info
I would wait for 70% pistils since you cant see trichs
 

fdd2blk

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i just look at them and know. :wink:

judging by the blurry pics i'd say those plants have 7 to 10 days to fully "ripen". they look as though they are starved for nutes though so going much long may not produce the results so desired. i'd let them go until all the big leaves turn yellow. at that point it's pretty much nuteless and done.


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i don't use a scope. my meds go to medical clubs and patients. it gets rated as A+. amazing how i do it. :cool:
 

brokeandwise

New Member
i just look at them and know. :wink:

judging by the blurry pics i'd say those plants have 7 to 10 days to fully "ripen". they look as though they are starved for nutes though so going much long may not produce the results so desired. i'd let them go until all the big leaves turn yellow. at that point it's pretty much nuteless and done.


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i don't use a scope. my meds go to medical clubs and patients. it gets rated as A+. amazing how i do it. :cool:
I never use a scope either. I do have a bud sniffing dog that humps a rock whenever ripe buds are "just perfect" though.
 

HSJANITOR

Active Member
thanks guys for the info i will go to the shack and get a scope i can afford one. im getting better every grow. this is my second one .ill invest in a camera too.
 

Brick Top

New Member
thanks guys for the info i will go to the shack and get a scope i can afford one. im getting better every grow. this is my second one .ill invest in a camera too.


I did not look to see if anyone gave you the info on the inexpensive Radio Shack mini-scope so if you want to check it out you can find it following the link below.
 
It is basic, nothing fancy, but it is more than powerful enough to do the job.

A suggestion about using it would be you likely will find it difficult to hover over a bud and be able to zoom and focus because it is difficult to remain that still and hold the scope against a bud and not have the bud move.
 
What works best if you don’t want to trim a piece of bud for the first look trim off a piece of a bud-leaf that is covered in trichomes.

Place it on a flat surface and then put the mini-scope on top and you will then be able to see clearly much easier.

If you want to only check a bud or want to then check a bud after first having examined the leaf you do the same thing but with a piece of bud.
 
Just be sure to check the trichome color at the top, middle and the bottom of your plants so you know what stage each portion is in and if it is ready to take the entire plant or just part of the plant, the top, and then allow the lower portion to mature more.
 
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2179604
 

Relaxed

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I find the radioshacke scope works best when I use a black dinner plate background. Also cut the leaf small enough to fit inside the scope viewer without touching the sides. A real small piece is easy to move the scope around and see all parts of the leaf. When you get the viewer finally dialed in all 3 colors clear, cloudy and amber are detailed.
 

IAm5toned

Well-Known Member
because the THC that did exist had by then degraded into CBN, a less desirable cannabinoid that makes someone feel confused and messed up instead of stoned or high and also when smoked it will make you feel like you are just about getting high/stoned and then that’s it, nothing more, nada, zilch. It teases you instead of pleases you.
lol i always called that 'psychological pot' cause you only think your getting high... i never knew about CBN though +rep i always thought it meant buds were just not fully matured or in the case of schwag germinated to early.
 

Brick Top

New Member
lol i always called that 'psychological pot' cause you only think your getting high... i never knew about CBN though +rep i always thought it meant buds were just not fully matured or in the case of schwag germinated to early.


If someone wants a relaxing body stone they still want high levels of THC but also high levels of CBD. CBD levels of 1.0 and above will give a stronger relaxing body stone than strains with lower levels of CBD.
 
Many people will mistakenly confuse the messed up confused feeling caused by oxidized THC that then became increased amounts of CBN for being increased levels of THC or just potency in general.

To some degree CBN will enhance certain aspects/effects of THC but it also detracts from/reduces some aspects/effects of THC so some is good but to much is bad because once you cross a certain point its effects are highly negative and the wrong route to intentionally take to try to get more of a relaxing body stone.
 
Some people who grow for profit want to let their plants go a little longer and put on a little more weight so they can increase profits but if doing so takes them to the point where most trichomes have turned mostly amber to fully amber they have passed the point of peak THC content and lost some THC through oxidation and as I said it transforms into increased amounts/levels of CBN.
 
If someone buys a bag that teases them more than pleases them, and makes them feel confused and messed up instead of high that is likely the reason behind it.
 
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