JigFresh's Grow #2 : Vertical Scrog - closet diy dwc - 650w - Headband + Casey Jones

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cruzer101

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Hey Jig,

Cool setup, You are using your available light very efficiently going vertically like that.
I have seen journals vertical hang coliseum grows that rocked. always wanted to try it, You lose so much going horizontal.


I am a little late for the build but I am gong to stick around for the grow.
So those are 5gal DWC containers with 6" net pots right?

Hey, I got an idea,
How about a giant lazy Susan for under all the pots. Make a frame and attach the screen to it.
That would make it a lot easier to get to the back.

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jigfresh

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proheto8008 said:
whoo, its looking kind of rough. I hope you get them thangs back on track.
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What up proheto... They don't look that bad, haha. The CJ is looking real good. The SG a little bit better. I'm pretty bummed with myself for letting them get this way. But they are weeds... they will make it.

There is new growth on each, and it is nice looking new growth. The SG seems like it's just growing on top of itself. Like ZERO internode spacing. I'm just going to have a giant bud... like a bud ottoman.

Cruzer. Welcome. They are 5 gal buckets with 2.5" drain cover/ net pots. i'm starting to think that by the end of the grow the stalk will be busting out of the pot.

The lazy susan... that was my idea exactly. That's why the circular buckets and opening for the net pots are where they are... so that I can swivel and adjust their position just by rotating the bucket lids and the net pots themselves. However this is mostly for postioning around the light. The screen in this grow will not be like a normal scrog... where' it's between the plants and the light. I'm basically just using the screens to tie the plants Back to. So I won't even need to get back behind the plants.

Thanks for the input... always welcome.

And thanks for the interest everyone.

First pics are of the Casey Jones. Second set are the Sour Grape.
 

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neversummer28

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GypsyBush said:
and then there's price...:lol:

I pay a hundred bucks for 15 GALLONS of 50% h2o2... that lasts a really long tome ...:lol:

Hygrozyme is $40 for a little bitty bottle...:razz:
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Not to bring the Hygrozyme convo back up again... but when I stopped by my local hydroponics shop, I asked the owner about it. He basically reiterated a number of things you guys mentioned on here. His main reason for choosing Hygrozyme over h2o2 is that h2o2 doesn't discriminate good from bad... it just "eats" it all, including the plants.

I picked up a small bottle for about $20 and will try it out with my upcoming grow. The roots on my first grow were very healthy the entire time... I kept a pretty clean environment. So we'll see how the Hygrozyme adds to my upcoming grow.
 
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jigfresh

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DorianGray said:
Hey Jigs- they do make a bucket cover and 6" net pot all in one.
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Yeah, i saw them at the hydro store. My thinking with this was the mobility of the plant location. The premaid ones are in the center, so I couldn't rotate the lid to move the plant... plus I don't know as if the pot swivels in the lid... i think it's one peice.

Another deal with mine is how low the pot hangs... or rather how high. I can fill my bucket up with over 4 and a half gallons and it just gets to the bottom of the pot. THen I have a couple layers of hydroton holding the rock wool up. With 6 inchers the hang almost 6" down, so I would only be able to use 3.5 to 4 gallons. Not the biggest deal, but I wanted the extra water for my vacation.

I think the guy at the hydro store thought i was funny for not just buying the pre maid ones.

Thanks for the heads up. DG. :mrgreen:
 
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mikejones420ish

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What up Jig? You have plenty of time to get those ladies back up to shape. The SG's gave me the impression of some fatty nugs also but the CJ's will be the beasts of that room. My SG's are a few days off and the nugs aren't as big as expected. Their beautiful but next to the CJ's their just little guys. The Sour's are frosty as hell and have a smell of grape jolly ranchers though. Also are you aware of the sensitivity issues with the Casey's, light and temp issues. From what i've read temps above 90 and light leaks cause this baby to herm(Temps never got this high and no leaks). I haven't had any of these issues though. Oh and one of my Caseys reeks of diesel fuel.
 
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cruzer101

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Hey Jig,

Just wanted to say thanks. After reading your journal I got to thinking about my grow and the light placement. 4x2 area and 400w hung horizontally side to side. After looking carefully at the spread I moved the light from side to side to front to back.

I got a lot more light that penetrates further coming out of the side of the DIY cool tube then the ends. Now that light is being put to use.
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jigfresh

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DorianGray said:
I also found 7 gal black buckets.
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Now see... that really would have been the ticket for me.

mikejones420ish said:
Also are you aware of the sensitivity issues with the Casey's, light and temp issues. From what i've read temps above 90 and light leaks cause this baby to herm. Oh and one of my Caseys reeks of diesel fuel.
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What up Mike Jones? Coming through with all the insider info on my strains. Thanks a lot. I won't have to worry about the 90 degrees... we turned on the furnace for the first time yesterday. I'm more worried about them freezing.

I will watch the light leaks for sure... I didn't really check that this build, so I will be sure to.

Thanks again. And feel free to throw some new pics up anytime... we need some bud porn up in this journal.

cruzer101 said:
After reading your journal I got to thinking about my grow and the light placement. After looking carefully at the spread I moved the light from side to side to front to back.
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Hell yeah cruzer. I got every idea in my closet from someone on RIU. I'd like to claim something as my own idea... but it's all just a combo of other peoples hard thought. I do however take pride in my work... I'm just not creative so much.

Ok. Those were my responses...
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here's my update:

It's official guys.... THEY'RE OFF. Running down the back stretch the casey jones is pulling ahead by a few leaves but the sour grape is keeping a good pace.

Every time I open the door there is more plant on each. The sour grape is really odd. It just doesn't get any taller... it's seriously insane. I'm charging my camera battery today (it takes forever). OH.... MY Wife has a great new camera... I'll borrow her's. Thanks for the idea. So yeah the SG just grows like 3 mm then grows another node...then 2mm another node. Just all together. Even the new growth on the side branches is just kinda growing out of itself.

The Casey jones is much more ordinary, all the side branches are growing nice and uniformily. I am so excited for things to get bigger.

Tonight when the lights come on I'm going to give them their first helping of Liquid Light. It's a Dutch Master Foliar spray supposed to encourage growth... and from my last two grows I would definitely say it works wonders.

And one more thing. I started reading Dr. Greenhorn's Journal the other day... and I gotta say, reading it for me is like reading a great book. I'm not much of a book reader, but I've read books I loved before... that feeling of liking the place the book takes you is like no other. Instantly you are in another land, or another time, or existance. Well Dr. G. you take me to a wonderful place with your journal. I appreciate all the pictures and time you put in. I'm only on page 11 or so... and I feel funny posting without catching up... so you'll see me one day.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/189309-dr-greenhorns-garden-isle-grow.htmlhttps://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/189309-garden-isle-grow-journal-hawaiian.html
(beware it's like 300 pages or something)

Pics: 1st Group - Sour Grape
2nd Group - Casey Jones
 

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enjoytheday

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jigfresh said:
Now see... that really would have been the ticket for me.



What up Mike Jones? Coming through with all the insider info on my strains. Thanks a lot. I won't have to worry about the 90 degrees... we turned on the furnace for the first time yesterday. I'm more worried about them freezing.

I will watch the light leaks for sure... I didn't really check that this build, so I will be sure to.

Thanks again. And feel free to throw some new pics up anytime... we need some bud porn up in this journal.



Hell yeah cruzer. I got every idea in my closet from someone on RIU. I'd like to claim something as my own idea... but it's all just a combo of other peoples hard thought. I do however take pride in my work... I'm just not creative so much.

Ok. Those were my responses...
_________________________________________________
here's my update:

It's official guys.... THEY'RE OFF. Running down the back stretch the casey jones is pulling ahead by a few leaves but the sour grape is keeping a good pace.

Every time I open the door there is more plant on each. The sour grape is really odd. It just doesn't get any taller... it's seriously insane. I'm charging my camera battery today (it takes forever). OH.... MY Wife has a great new camera... I'll borrow her's. Thanks for the idea. So yeah the SG just grows like 3 mm then grows another node...then 2mm another node. Just all together. Even the new growth on the side branches is just kinda growing out of itself.

The Casey jones is much more ordinary, all the side branches are growing nice and uniformily. I am so excited for things to get bigger.

Tonight when the lights come on I'm going to give them their first helping of Liquid Light. It's a Dutch Master Foliar spray supposed to encourage growth... and from my last two grows I would definitely say it works wonders.

And one more thing. I started reading Dr. Greenhorn's Journal the other day... and I gotta say, reading it for me is like reading a great book. I'm not much of a book reader, but I've read books I loved before... that feeling of liking the place the book takes you is like no other. Instantly you are in another land, or another time, or existance. Well Dr. G. you take me to a wonderful place with your journal. I appreciate all the pictures and time you put in. I'm only on page 11 or so... and I feel funny posting without catching up... so you'll see me one day.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/189309-dr-greenhorns-garden-isle-grow.html
(beware it's like 300 pages or something)

Pics: 1st Group - Sour Grape
2nd Group - Casey Jones
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any concern for the leaf tips? very green. how old are they?
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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enjoytheday said:
any concern for the leaf tips? very green. how old are they?
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No worries about the leaf tips. Those leaves were developing when I completely wasn't paying attention to the pH... so things were way off and the plant suffered a Tiny bit. All the new leaves are pretty all the way out... so I am not worried.

I like them being really green. I think it means they are full of nitrogen, and I think that is a good thing to have going into flower. Feel free to tell me if I'm wrong guys... I just feel like I've read this a couple times.

I bought the plants on Aug. 31. So they have been in the closet for 2 weeks. When I bought them they were at least 3 weeks from being cut. So the clones are almost 6 weeks from being cut.

Nice to see you here bro. :leaf:
 
snow4aaron

snow4aaron

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Hey Jig,

That liquid light is something else. I use the leftovers to spray the house plants. It turns them dark green also.
Keep up the good work!
 
matsuwa

matsuwa

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wow, i think i read about this in one of the scroging links you posted in you other jornal, i was a little confused as how it looked, but it looks like you have an idea, excited to see how it turns out man. :)
 
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