Soda tax

Red rhino grower

New Member
I just seen on the news that there will be a soda tax. It will be $0.01 for every ounce of soda. That will be $0.12 for every can you buy. That would be $1.44 for every 12 pack you buy. What do you guys think about this? I think it is too much. I wouldn't mind paying maybe $0.03 per can but $0.12 just sounds too high to me.
 

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
There will not be a soda tax. There is a group pushing for it, but no legislation has been drafted and there is no "soda tax" provision in the health care bill.

Just because someone is pushing for legislation, does not mean it will happen.
 

Red rhino grower

New Member
There will not be a soda tax. There is a group pushing for it, but no legislation has been drafted and there is no "soda tax" provision in the health care bill.

Just because someone is pushing for legislation, does not mean it will happen.
But it is very possible it will happen. I'm all for the health care bill. It's just $0.12 is high. I understand stuff will be raised but that much is insane.
 

Green Cross

Well-Known Member
Smokes are taxed over $1 a pack. Suck it up pop drinkers!

They will ban fast food before long, as is already happening in the UK.

You still want big government?
 

Red rhino grower

New Member
Smokes are taxed over $1 a pack. Suck it up pop drinkers!

They will ban fast food before long, as is already happening in the UK.

You still want big government?
I smoke also. I didn't like the tax at first but I got used to it. They won't ban fast food in the US. Those are the only companies who still make decent money. This has nothing to do with the health care bill anyway. So you might want to do some research before you post. Not trying to be a dick but know the facts before posting.:roll:
 

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
So, either stop drinking soda or pay the tax.

Anyway, for there to be a tax there has to be a piece of legislation enacting the tax -which there isn't, and isn't likely to happen (the soda companies have lots of money, remember?)
 

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
I smoke also. I didn't like the tax at first but I got used to it. They won't ban fast food in the US. Those are the only companies who still make decent money. This has nothing to do with the health care bill anyway. So you might want to do some research before you post. Not trying to be a dick but know the facts before posting.:roll:

Actually, it DOES have to do with the health care bill, because they were trying to get provisions for the soda tax added into THAT bill.

Congress decided to leave it out.

So... no soda tax.
 

Red rhino grower

New Member
Actually, it DOES have to do with the health care bill, because they were trying to get provisions for the soda tax added into THAT bill.

Congress decided to leave it out.

So... no soda tax.
What I meant was it's not the goverment doing it. It's some dirtbag christian group.
 

ViRedd

New Member
What I meant was it's not the goverment doing it. It's some dirtbag christian group.
Some dirtbag Christian group? LMAO!

Which Christian dirtbag group is it? Is it the one that works for no pay while washing the feet of lepers? Is it the ones who feed the homeless in downtown Los Angeles? Is it the ones (Teen Challenge) who convert totally lost teenage drug abusers into productive citizens? Is it the ones who provide shelter for the homeless during the winter in Chicago? Is it the ones who provide superior educations, not only to those children of their own faiths, but to the children of non-believers as well?

Come on man ... spell it out ... who exactly are these dirtbag Christian groups? bongsmilie

And on the soda issue. Stop drinking that crap. Its full of High Fructose Corn Syrup. HFCS supresses your insulin level and that leads to Type II diabetes. It also causes a chemical reaction that prevents the brain from telling you that you are full. There are tons of soda drinkers who have, or will have Type II diabetes and who are obese. Have you stepped on a scale lately?

I will agree with you on one thing: There should be no tax on soda to support a health care system, period. A government that FORCES it's citizens to buy insurance, is a totalitarian government run by statists.

I'll take issue with another one of your statements though:

"But it is very possible it will happen. I'm all for the health care bill. It's just $0.12 is high. I understand stuff will be raised but that much is insane."

Do you actually think that anything ... anything at all that the government does is free? Do you believe that you actually have a say-so on this issue? If so, give ol' Obama a call and he may be able to help you out. :lol:
 

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
dirtbag Christian group? HUH?


'In a bid to ramp up the public health battle against obesity, a group of nutrition and economics experts are pushing for a tax of 1 cent on every of ounce of sodas and other sweetened beverages.."


Nutrition and economics experts are dirtbag Christians?
 

ChChoda

Well-Known Member
I smoke also. I didn't like the tax at first but I got used to it. They won't ban fast food in the US. Those are the only companies who still make decent money. This has nothing to do with the health care bill anyway. So you might want to do some research before you post. Not trying to be a dick but know the facts before posting.:roll:
And you'll get used to the soda tax, and the trans fat tax, and whatever other tax the nanny state tells you to shut up and accept...with that kind of attitude.

PS- The soda tax is in one of the proposed health care bills, the Baucus Bill, along with a ton of other non health related issues, like a bunch of new IRS laws.

 

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
And you'll get used to the soda tax, and the trans fat tax, and whatever other tax the nanny state tells you to shut up and accept...with that kind of attitude.

PS- The soda tax is in one of the proposed health care bills, the Baucus Bill, along with a ton of other non health related issues, like a bunch of new IRS laws.


PPS: there's a new "Baucus bill" out today, and that proposed soda tax was dropped.
 

undertheice

Well-Known Member
sin taxes have long been one of the sneaky little ways that politicians find to fund their pet projects. they find a behavior that can be seen as objectionable and vilify those who engage in it, penalizing them for their choice and claiming that the proceeds will go to some worthwhile endeavor. just as with any other special purpose tax, those funds end up being siphoned off and used to curry favor with some special interest or other. no one seems to care because the money comes from bad people and is being used for the good of society. all the mob wants is a good scapegoat to blame for some real or imagined woe and to know that government is there to protect them from the latest sin.

lately we seem to have an abundance of those naughty little groups to blame for our general discomfort. smokers, drivers, drinkers, over-eaters, the wealthy, anyone involved in banking or insurance, business in general - the list just seems to go on and on and on. the deeper the hole our representatives dig us into, the more scapegoats are needed to finance their hare-brained schemes for recovery. now they would like to target the obesity epidemic as the latest cause of our distress and bleed us all down to our bones by taxing those sugary drinks they claim are a major cause of the problem. once again they will tell us it is all to fund a series of programs designed to make america healthier and once again they will drain all that revenue away to pave the way for their reelection campaigns.
 

ChChoda

Well-Known Member
sin taxes have long been one of the sneaky little ways that politicians find to fund their pet projects. they find a behavior that can be seen as objectionable and vilify those who engage in it, penalizing them for their choice and claiming that the proceeds will go to some worthwhile endeavor. just as with any other special purpose tax, those funds end up being siphoned off and used to curry favor with some special interest or other. no one seems to care because the money comes from bad people and is being used for the good of society. all the mob wants is a good scapegoat to blame for some real or imagined woe and to know that government is there to protect them from the latest sin.

lately we seem to have an abundance of those naughty little groups to blame for our general discomfort. smokers, drivers, drinkers, over-eaters, the wealthy, anyone involved in banking or insurance, business in general - the list just seems to go on and on and on. the deeper the hole our representatives dig us into, the more scapegoats are needed to finance their hare-brained schemes for recovery. now they would like to target the obesity epidemic as the latest cause of our distress and bleed us all down to our bones by taxing those sugary drinks they claim are a major cause of the problem. once again they will tell us it is all to fund a series of programs designed to make america healthier and once again they will drain all that revenue away to pave the way for their reelection campaigns.
Just wait until they run the business of health care; then anything pertaining to the physical body, and the mind, can be regulated in the name of "savings".
 

ViRedd

New Member
sin taxes have long been one of the sneaky little ways that politicians find to fund their pet projects. they find a behavior that can be seen as objectionable and vilify those who engage in it, penalizing them for their choice and claiming that the proceeds will go to some worthwhile endeavor. just as with any other special purpose tax, those funds end up being siphoned off and used to curry favor with some special interest or other. no one seems to care because the money comes from bad people and is being used for the good of society. all the mob wants is a good scapegoat to blame for some real or imagined woe and to know that government is there to protect them from the latest sin.

lately we seem to have an abundance of those naughty little groups to blame for our general discomfort. smokers, drivers, drinkers, over-eaters, the wealthy, anyone involved in banking or insurance, business in general - the list just seems to go on and on and on. the deeper the hole our representatives dig us into, the more scapegoats are needed to finance their hare-brained schemes for recovery. now they would like to target the obesity epidemic as the latest cause of our distress and bleed us all down to our bones by taxing those sugary drinks they claim are a major cause of the problem. once again they will tell us it is all to fund a series of programs designed to make america healthier and once again they will drain all that revenue away to pave the way for their reelection campaigns.
That's exactly what I just said ... only not nearly as well as you did. Damn it! :lol:
 

jwop

Well-Known Member
But it is very possible it will happen. I'm all for the health care bill. It's just $0.12 is high. I understand stuff will be raised but that much is insane.

doesn't surprise me one bit that you would be "for" the health care bill and at the same time worried about a tax increase on soda lol

as my good friend eddie murphy said, "have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up"
 

ChChoda

Well-Known Member
doesn't surprise me one bit that you would be "for" the health care bill and at the same time worried about a tax increase on soda lol

as my good friend eddie murphy said, "have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up"
lol................:blsmoke:
 

undertheice

Well-Known Member
That's exactly what I just said ... only not nearly as well as you did. Damn it! :lol:
well, i'm just a long winded old fart with an overabundance of vocabulary, several well rolled joints at the ready and too much time on my hands today.:mrgreen:
 
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