Moths or Mites... Gypsy's first REAL problem...

[GypsyBush]

Left the windows open... had to... it was too hot all Summer...


Then I notice MOTHS..... attracted to the light...




So then I go take clones and I see this shit....


Is this a MOTH problem? and I will start seeing caterpillars soon?

Or is this a problem with MITES starting up...


I have looked and looked and I have not seen anything crawling around...

But the damage is irrefutable...


Do you know what did this???

Thanks...

 

[ForcedInduction]

whattt?? no way how could you leave the windows open with no screens!

this is really the first problem you have had??

looks like mites to me. but hey what do i know?

 

[SpruceZeus]

Have a look at the backside of the leaves.
If it's mites that is where you'll find 'em.

 

[dagobaker]

agree backside is crutial
if u get mites kill yourself. And I'm not joking
I've been fighting them for 9 months
I use predatory mites. Still not completely gone

 

[tom__420]

It could be thrips, do you see any larvae?

 

[GypsyBush]

I didn;t post any backside.. but I HAVE BEN LOOKING...

I see no-thing crawling around...

But then again...

SZ.. Am I supposed to see something in that pic???

Cause if I am.. chances are I can't see them in real life either...

I'm snapping a bunch of pics....

I'll see what I see...

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As for killing myself...

I got an EASY way to get RID of of pests for GOOD.. ANY PEST...

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I do have to start fresh.... with new plants though...

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But All it takes is to open the door for about 3 hours...

that's the time it would take to FREEZE MY HOUSE down to 30 below or so...

Most insects die well before that...

So...

yeah..

Freeze the house half a day... should be enough...

And it's already snowed 2x here.. so.. yeah...

If it is I will be able to do it soon...

And it is only in the veg room..

I THINK (hope) it's MOTHS though...

I mean.. they EAT right???? and leave EGGS in leaves.. right???? but I see no caterpilarises smoking hookas and speaking correctically...

Maybe I need to try a piece of that mushroom there...

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[GypsyBush]

It could be thrips, do you see any larvae?

I suppose it could.. that is the closest match so far...

But I got nothing moving anywhere...

lemme go get 157 pics real quick...

 

[GypsyBush]

It's not moths...

 

[GypsyBush]

Fucking Thirps...

 

[GypsyBush]

if it's cold out.. and I put the plant outside... I wonder who dies first...plant or thirp...?

 

[greenthumb111]

if it's cold out.. and I put the plant outside... I wonder who dies first...plant or thirp...?

Use Greenlight Lawn and garden with spinosad. Organic and will kill those bastards dead. I had them in the begining.

 

[GypsyBush]

I haven't needed clones couse the SOG isn't really moving much...

So I haven't had a good look at them in a long time...

It's pretty sad.... the veg room has been a little warm since I re-arranged things... c'mon cold...

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But yeah... I have a SERIOUS thirp problem...

And I am not one to bang my head against the wall very long...

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I'll just set fire to everything and start over CLEAN... AGAIN... AFTER the snow flies and STICKS...

 

[dagobaker]

Maybe a pest strip? And how about spraying with neem

 

[ForcedInduction]

freeze the mother fuckers!

 

[tom__420]

http://homeharvest.com/insectspraysneembased.htm

I have had good success against pests using neem oil. There is a link with a few different options for you. Freezing the plant sounds a little risky but I guess so does spraying insecticide in flowering...

 

[bigjesse1922]

So these are in the veg room only?

Not on the trees right?

Can you effectively freeze just one room?

There is no hope of taking some clones and preserving the genetics before starting over?

 

[GypsyBush]

Maybe a pest strip? And how about spraying with neem

I don't have the patience for that shit...

I am not about to declare war on bugs...

I will just GET RID OF THEM... the easy way...

freeze the mother fuckers!

This is plan A, but I am doing it with my hand on the BONFIRE button...

http://homeharvest.com/insectspraysneembased.htm

I have had good success against pests using neem oil. There is a link with a few different options for you. Freezing the plant sounds a little risky but I guess so does spraying insecticide in flowering...

I could deal with a severely stressed plant for a couple of months better than I could with sprays (natural or not) or living in a movie titled LADYBUGS THE INVASION...


I wil just kill everything.. sterilize the rooms.. and start over with new beans, pots, hydroton, hoses, pumps, bulbs, etc..

NEW GROW...

WITHOUT PESTS...

Cause I know if I start winter with no bugs, the next time I will see one is NEXT JUNE...

So it's worth starting winter correctically, NO CHANCE OF A BUG....

Hell I'll go sleep somewhere for a few days and NUKE THE WHOLE HOUSE... WITH SOMETHING BAD..

Wait a week.. then move in to a BUG FREE HOUSE..

So these are in the veg room only?

The veg room is pretty much INFESTED...

Not on the trees right?

Not on the trees.. not yet anyways...

But I did see that the last clones I added to the SOG (C99), have damaged leafs...

So yeah, they're in the flower room too.. but it's here and there you see damage... on the SOG side only .. so far..

Can you effectively freeze just one room?

With all the fans I have here.. sure...

But I would just freeze the whole house...

I am sure there's some of them in the carpet...

There is no hope of taking some clones and preserving the genetics before starting over?

I could.. but if ONE bug survives....

I will have to start over AGAIN...

The only effective way I see to deal with the problem is to ERRADICATE IT...

Make it so it not a problem anymore...

Do it once.. and be done till next june...

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as for the genetics...

I got handfuls of bagseed...

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If the old hippie wants to give another C99 clone I'll take it...

But if not, bagseed it is...

It got me stoned before.. I am sure it can do it again......


I really rather just worry about it ONCE... and for all...

I'll let the flower room finish...

Sterilize the house and equipment...

And start from scratch...

Although I am hopeful that a few COLD nights outside would be enough to kill them..

I find it hard to believe that I could ASSURE 100% effectiveness as I can by starting over... FRESH and STERILE...

And in the mean time, I will lower the temps in the flower room, so they do no explode in population...

Say 65 during the day 55 at night???

what do you guys think?

It would be nice to keep the population DOWN for another 2 or 3 weeks...

But I will be smoking these buds.. and bugs and bug shit is already bad enough..

I refuse to spray POISON on my buds... period.. I don;t care who says it's safe.. they're just in it for the money...

So yeah... Fuck....

Took long enough for me to have a real problem...

So.. no more growing in the 2 months of Summer......

And freeze or nuke the house before starting... every year...

 

[GypsyBush]

So I have dropped the temps to 65F day and 50F NIGHT...

THE VEG ROOM IS ALSO GETTING A 1/4 dose of GO GNATS, foliar and in the res...

We'll see what this does....