Asetian blood is a dumbshit who needs your help. :]

Okay, hello. So I've had a lot of friends who've grown weed. It was mostly just the standard greenbud. No awesome chronic or some sort of special strain. Every now and then some W Widow or Skunk would come through... but nothing too great was ever grown. Just your typical green bud, not even crystals on it.

I had like 5 or six friends that grew weed and so i never had to learn to grow it myself as I just bought it from them, and never paid much attention to the growing process.

I want to make some serious money on this though. I have looked through this forum browsing and trying to learn some stuff (it's really the only place I googled that actually had some good answers).

This is my plan:
Weed: I want to grow some standard green bud for beginners, just getting a handle on the whole concept of the thing.
Master Weed: after about two years of growing a few strains and harvesting some crops, I want to have at least 30 plants, of about 5 different awesome, super, extreme, manifesto chronic. I mean white widow, skunk, mexican... something or other, and idk what else.
I want to do some hydroponics of a few types and a great indoor grow system.

Salvia: then I want to grow some salvia and concetrate that all by myself, and do it all with a controled system where I can change and advance the concentrations myself.

Shroom spores: by my 4th or 5th years of this stuff I finally want to advance to mushrooms, of about three types. and make it awesome.

I'm thinking by doing this, I'm going to make money off of the first plants, save the money, and use it to invest in better and better systems, until I have the best system.

Okay here are my issues though:
I tried growing weed once, but I couldn't even get the white little spores to poke out, I mean at all, they just swelled up and didn't do squat. I did it right, they didn't turn black and shrivel or anything. i kept them in a dark place, with constant heat of not too hot or cold. I did open the container and knapkin once or twice to check them. I must have given them at least like 2 1/2 weeks time to germinate and then gave up because of the stupid problems I was having with them.

Here is what I do understand:
Germinating: Put them in a moist, sometimes partially wet knapkin and keep them warm in an incubator type thing depending on what you have to work with, and in a dark place. Give them time until they crack open and the little white spores come out. Check them every now and then but not too often.

Planting: Plant them with some room to grow and don't completely cover them with soil, as they have to sprout up. They like organic soil, vermuculite. They like lots of food but one shouldn't go too heavy on it in the beginning. Small amounts until their mature and steady enough to handle it.(maybe like two or three weeks until feeding them their first time?). I can't decide how this works though. Is more food better, or letting them be more organic and limiting the food better? Another thing about planting, i thought there was two ways you can do it. A lot of plants in one container or a pot seed each in all big conatainers and let them grow into big plants. I think i was gonna try big plants; all separate.

Sexing: The little balls and the places where the stems split is male, and the hairs white hairs coming off of the leave-like spikey things mean female, and sometimes you can't tell, or you get a hermaphroditic plant.

Harvesting and pot cultivation: Cut back on the light because it makes the plant think it's time to harvest and grow the bud, as that's how plans work: seasonal or fall periods = harvest time.
Pot cultivating - you have to be careful, cut the buds at the very stem where the bud begins, and trim the leaves off growing around them, careful not to cut the tips of the actual bud off though.

Some basics I know: treat the plants well (lol, I have a hippy friend who sings and reads to them, always playing soothing music in his grow room.) - you think this works at all?
Tobacco around plants = dying plants or pure EEEEEEVIL! No cigarette smoke or nicotene covered fingers when handling the plants.
Keep your hands clean at all times when handling your plants, planting the spore-sprouting seeds, or even JUST the seeds.

Lol, how did i do? Joint-worthy enough? :joint:

okay, so here are my question for you guys:

1)What might I have been doing wrong with my germination?
2)How do you sex the plants and which is better to have, female right, since you get more seeds?
3)Will the food affect the quality and strongness of the plant? Does Lots of food= strong high or something?
4)What are the best seeds that still yeild a lot, and have a strong high, i.e. good for selling, but easy to grow with not TOO much maintenence?
5)How soon after they start growing should I feed them?
6)Should I wait until my plants get way big before I cut back on the light, or how soon should I cut back on the light?
7)How do I create a smaller, and not too attention-grabbing plant that still has lots of strong bud growing on various stems rather than just three or four areas with bud?
8)When I sell my weed should I take the seeds out, but I thought that would make me have to make the bud smaller, and then making the bud of lesser quality and not worth as much or looking as good?
9)When I sell should I be more generous and put a little extra bowl in or something that way people will buy from me, or just completely the right amount?
10)Where are some good places where weed isn't so easy to get, and where you won't get caught selling it?
11)How easy is hydroponics? ( my dad's going to teach me)
12)When I grow how do I make it good quality with lots of resin and some serious smoke?

... lol, it's only twelve questions.

Sorry for my inconvenience though.
 

DoeEyed

Well-Known Member
Whew! Ok I'll try to help.
1. Hard to say what went wrong - possibly everything, maybe bad seeds. If you're having that much trouble, try just planting the seed directly into the soil. (Yes, they have to be covered - plant them 1/4 to 1/2 inch deep) Water lightly - keep it moist, but NOT soaked.

2. You want females. They grow the bud you smoke - not males. If you allow a male to pollinate your female, you'll also get seeds - if you need 'em, great, but doing this will decrease the potency of your bud. How soon you can tell sex depends on a lot of things - but pretty much anywhere from 4-10 weeks they will grow either balls for a male, or pistils for a female. Google it - lots of pics.

3.Your plant needs food. Outdoors, a plant can send out roots to find what it needs - indoors it depends on YOU to feed it. It has nothing to do with the potency of the plant, but will affect the size and strength. Not feeding it would be kinda like locking you in a room then expecting you to be able to feed yourself. But it has what it needs for about the first three weeks - feeding before this can burn her.

4.Lots of opinions on that. If this is your first time, work out your "growing pains" on some bagseed.

5.About three weeks.

6.How big is your space? They get two to three times bigger in flower - aside from that, basically the longer you veg, the bigger your yield. So it's up to you.

7.Search LST, topping, and FIM.

12. Lots of TLC, research, and NO MALES/HERMIES around.

Definately do some more reading - it will only help you in the long run. Good luck!:peace:
 

jats

Well-Known Member
WELCOME TO THE SITE AB............... It sounds like you have a big adventure ahead with your journey into Ganga cultivation....and you have big plans but intend on starting small and building up...you have the right idea there... but no one here is going to tell you how and where to sell any thing.... You will learn everything you need to know as you start to grow....The spores you mentioned are the tap roots.... It sounds like you did all the right things when you tried to sprout your seeds,,,except maybe they were too warm in the incubator ? .... I usualily just put them somewhere warm but not hot like on top of the fridge..... some seeds just dont sprout others,,like some I had recently took 3 weeks to sprout....others sprout overnight
I would add that your plan will go well if you have your own place and dont breath a word of what you are up to to anyone.... but if you try doing it in a share house or at your folks house ,,,it will end in tears,,as they say... good luck with that :^)
 

milowerx96

Active Member
Dude I don't know where to start. First off I recommend getting on amazon.com and getting a book or three about growing. After reading up you will have far more knowledge and far fewer questions. Next , you seem to have a rather grand plan to grow 30 plants of different strains to finance some sort of enterprise down the line with mushrooms. Growing 30 plants is not as easy as one would think. There is a lot of risk, time, labor and expense involved in growing 30 plants. It is not a venture for a novice. Rolling in to a 30 plant crop with out a clue can lead to dozens of problems including but not limited to Crop failure do to any number of reasons, theft (sometimes at gunpoint), Landlord issues (having to move a crop because your landlord found out is always awesome) and arrest and imprisonment. Start slow. Grow 3 or 4 plants to start and learn how to grow good on a small scale then ramp it up. Different strains grow and flower at different speeds. Try to keep your number of strains limited or at least find strains that have the same growing and flowering characteristics.

Mushrooms are nothing like weed when it comes to production. You can make tons of dough and the equipment is dirt cheap when compared to indoor growing. That being said growing mushrooms has a ton of pitfalls for even the most experienced Mycologist. Cleanliness it the most important thing. One Microscopic spore; just one, can infect your substrate with a toxic mold that will kill your mushrooms and mycelium. Unless you know exactly what you are growing and exactly what it looks like and how it behaves you could serve up poisoned mushrooms. I don't want to dissuade you from your plans. I just want you to make sure that you research these things fully and proceed with caution. Remember You are talking about committing felony's here. Prisons are full of people that just wanted to make money growing weed and mushrooms. Depending on what state you live in the penalties can be very harsh. Good luck
 
Lol, Milower, I said I was going to start slow. I don't plan on growing that many plants until I have more knowledge and a couple of years of growing on me.
I plan on having my own place. I have enough money to buy some of my own land. I've been planning on doing that for a long time, and before I start any weed growing I'm going to school for a certificate in welding to support myself. Then go onto construction, and build my own house. I will probably do the growing, well idk, in a basement or something.

Spooney Da Dro, I'm not a bro, and almost twice that age.

Okay, thanks for all the tips and answers... but how do I make a plant female?
and when should I do that?

Oh yeah and getting a grow manual is definitely on my list of chores before I start doing this. Shrooms, I'm probably going to get a grow manual for that too, and watch videos, if I can I'll have someone teach me.
 

jats

Well-Known Member
you cant really "make" a plant female...you can buy feminised seeds that give you a bout a 96% chance of them turning female... other then that,,,you put your plants on a light cycle of 12/12,usually after veging them on a 18/6 cycle ,,then they will show their sex and start to bud or flower as the case maybe
 

doctorD

Well-Known Member
Dude I don't know where to start. First off I recommend getting on amazon.com and getting a book or three about growing. After reading up you will have far more knowledge and far fewer questions. Next , you seem to have a rather grand plan to grow 30 plants of different strains to finance some sort of enterprise down the line with mushrooms. Growing 30 plants is not as easy as one would think. There is a lot of risk, time, labor and expense involved in growing 30 plants. It is not a venture for a novice. Rolling in to a 30 plant crop with out a clue can lead to dozens of problems including but not limited to Crop failure do to any number of reasons, theft (sometimes at gunpoint), Landlord issues (having to move a crop because your landlord found out is always awesome) and arrest and imprisonment. Start slow. Grow 3 or 4 plants to start and learn how to grow good on a small scale then ramp it up. Different strains grow and flower at different speeds. Try to keep your number of strains limited or at least find strains that have the same growing and flowering characteristics.

Mushrooms are nothing like weed when it comes to production. You can make tons of dough and the equipment is dirt cheap when compared to indoor growing. That being said growing mushrooms has a ton of pitfalls for even the most experienced Mycologist. Cleanliness it the most important thing. One Microscopic spore; just one, can infect your substrate with a toxic mold that will kill your mushrooms and mycelium. Unless you know exactly what you are growing and exactly what it looks like and how it behaves you could serve up poisoned mushrooms. I don't want to dissuade you from your plans. I just want you to make sure that you research these things fully and proceed with caution. Remember You are talking about committing felony's here. Prisons are full of people that just wanted to make money growing weed and mushrooms. Depending on what state you live in the penalties can be very harsh. Good luck
Very well said

Okay, thanks for all the tips and answers... but how do I make a plant female?
and when should I do that?
The same way you make a female person
 

milowerx96

Active Member
Plants are what sex they are. There is not a lot you can do to change it unless you are one the breeding - manufacturing end of the seeds. What you need to do is grow your seedlings up till they are big enough to get a couple of clones off of and take several clones off of each plant. I recommend taking several in case you have any sort of problems with your clones you have a way better chance of keeping the strain alive. Once you have taken your clones make sure you label them with the individual plant they came from. Take you clones and put them in a 16/8 light cycle (or what ever your veg cycle is). Then you switch the light cycle for the mother plants to 12/12. after a few weeks you will know what sex your plants are. Once you have determined the sex of your mother plants you and remove the clones the were taken from the male plants and put the rest into your grow room for production. You pretty much need to do this every time you start from seed. Even if you buy feminized seeds I still recommend doing this because even feminized seeds are not 100 % female.
 
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