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theincrediblechoke
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YES CHILLING W/ THE GIRLS IS ALWAYS A GOOD WAY TO SPEND TIME. I LOVE THE LADIES AND THE LADIES LOVE ME.I would be doing the same thing. Shit I'd probably spend most of my day in there with the plants. Put me a t.v. and dvd player up in there and kick back smoke and watch some movies with the plants hahaha.
bigjesse1922
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I love how your trees are looking.
If mine swell 50% as much as yours did, relative to 2 weeks prior to those pics, I will piss myself.
I have to say GB: there HAS to be a way to save your genetics. I am thoroughly convinced you have the skills to pull it off.
Take some clones and isolate them in the house. Clone them into soil or perlite or even ton if you need to and hand water them. Destroy the investation elsewhere, but BATTLE them on these clones and WIN.
Purge the house, get it ready, and when the battle has been won, bring your saved genes in an get things back on track.
I think these trees are gonna keep you high for a long time, and I KNOW you aren't close to out ne way
If mine swell 50% as much as yours did, relative to 2 weeks prior to those pics, I will piss myself.
I have to say GB: there HAS to be a way to save your genetics. I am thoroughly convinced you have the skills to pull it off.
Take some clones and isolate them in the house. Clone them into soil or perlite or even ton if you need to and hand water them. Destroy the investation elsewhere, but BATTLE them on these clones and WIN.
Purge the house, get it ready, and when the battle has been won, bring your saved genes in an get things back on track.
I think these trees are gonna keep you high for a long time, and I KNOW you aren't close to out ne way
GypsyBush
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Thanks Jesse...
The problem is I have no where to put them...
"elsewhere" doesn't exist...
NO ONE HERE CAN KNOW...
and it's already snowing..
The the low in the green house yesterday was 28F...
...
So yeah.. if I nuke the house with them inside they die...
If I put them outside they die...
and if I take them to another I'll get "busted" within the community... NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!
so yeah...
The problem is I have no where to put them...
"elsewhere" doesn't exist...
NO ONE HERE CAN KNOW...
and it's already snowing..
The the low in the green house yesterday was 28F...
...
So yeah.. if I nuke the house with them inside they die...
If I put them outside they die...
and if I take them to another I'll get "busted" within the community... NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!
so yeah...
tilemaster
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should be able too. i can get that off of 4 big plants in soil under 1k lamps... btw looking good on the tied up flowering chron. sorry bout the infestation .. wut pest?
littlegrower2004
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haha GB i dont wanna seem rude or like a dick but im pretty sure its thrips. everytime i see you say thirp it gets me.
bigjesse1922
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There's not a closet, or a homemade cab, or anything??
GypsyBush
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Well... if ONE little fucker survives, I will be in the same spot 3 months from now...
Where as if I do it right! in 3 months I would be well on my way to a bug free winter...
That's what gets me...
If I lived in FL where THERE"S GONNA BE BUGS... sure I'd fight...
But I live in a STERILE environment for 9 months of the year...
It just seems silly to fight bugs inside, when there are none outside...
Where as if I do it right! in 3 months I would be well on my way to a bug free winter...
That's what gets me...
If I lived in FL where THERE"S GONNA BE BUGS... sure I'd fight...
But I live in a STERILE environment for 9 months of the year...
It just seems silly to fight bugs inside, when there are none outside...
bigjesse1922
Well-Known Member
Then don't let even ONE survive 
DubB83
Well-Known Member
I say again! NEEM OIL!
Excerpt taken from a web page.
Does neem oil insecticide work? Some gardeners question the usefulness of neem insecticide.
They sprayed neem oil, and did not see an immediate effect. They probably did not understand how neem oil affects insects.
Neem oil does work, but the way it works is different from other insecticides. Neem is not an instant, knock down, kill everything pesticide.
Neem oil affects insects in many different, ingenious and subtle ways.
How neem oil messes with the insects' brains and bodies
Neem oil has many complex active ingredients. Rather than being simple poisons, those ingredients are similar to the hormones that insects produce. Insects take up the neem oil ingredients just like natural hormones.
Neem enters the system and blocks the real hormones from working properly. Insects "forget" to eat, to mate, or they stop laying eggs. Some forget that they can fly. If eggs are produced they don't hatch, or the larvae don't moult.
Obviously insects that are too confused to eat or breed will not survive. The population eventually plummets, and they disappear. The cycle is broken.
How precisely it works is difficult for scientists to find out. There are too many different active substances in neem oil, and every insect species reacts differently to neem insecticide.
Neem oil does not hurt beneficial insects. Only chewing and sucking insects are affected. It is certainly fascinating.
Like real hormones, neem oil insecticide works at very low concentrations, in the parts per million range. A little neem oil goes a long way.
But this is not something that happens over night. People spray neem oil as insecticide, and expect everything to die instantly, because that's what they are used to from chemical poisons. When that does not happen they conclude neem insecticide does not work.
It does work! Give it time to work. It's a much smarter way to deal with insect pests than to just kill everything.
How neem oil deters chewing and sucking insects
There is a nice story that demonstrates how grasshoppers react to neem oil insecticide. It goes something like this:
Someone did an experiment. It involved two jars, two leaves, and two grasshoppers. One leaf was sprayed with a chemical insecticide, and one with neem oil. The two grasshoppers were put in the two jars, with one leaf each.
The first grasshopper ate the leaf and died almost instantly. The grasshopper with the neem oil covered leaf did not touch the leaf and lived. At least for a few days. Eventually it starved to death.
What would you prefer? A poisonous half eaten lettuce, or an organic, untouched lettuce? It's a no brainer, isn't it?
Neem stops insects from eating the plants.
Part of this action is due to to the hormone like action of neem oil that I explained above. Insects "forget" to eat after they've been in contact with even traces of neem oil.
But it is also the presence, the mere hint of a smell of neem oil, that seems to be enough to keep leaf eating insects away. Neem oil can be very powerful as an anti-feedant and insect repellent.
This anti-feedant property is one of the most often advertised and lauded properties of neem oil insecticide. However, the hormonal effects I described above are even stronger.
Neem oil as an insect deterrent works well against grasshoppers and leafhoppers, but all other insect pests are controlled mostly through the hormone action.
The subtlety of the hormonal effects, and the fact that they may take days or weeks to manifest, makes people overlook them. Ill informed gardeners seek instant gratification, i.e. lots of dead insects immediately, rather than a balanced environment in the long run.
It's a shame, because the hormonal effect is where the real power of neem oil lies. It's the key to neem oil being an effective insecticide and good for the environment at the same time. It's also important to understand this effect to use neem oil insecticide correctly.
Neem oil works from inside the plant
Many insecticides break down quickly. They wash away with rain, or when irrigating, or the sunlight destroys them. You either have to spray all the time, or you have to spray something that's so stable that it stays around forever. That means the chemical builds up everywhere and eventually poisons everything, including you.
Neem oil breaks down very quickly, too. It is especially susceptible to UV light. But neem oil is also a systemic insecticide. That means you can pour it on the soil (not pure neem oil of course, you use a dilution or extract) and the plants absorb it. They take it up into their tissue, and it works from the inside. A leaf hopper may take a couple of bites, but that's it.
However, this does not work for all insect species. The neem ingredients accumulate in the tissues deeper inside the plant. The phloem, the outermost layer, contains hardly any. A tiny aphid feeds from the phloem, it can not penetrate deep enough to get a dose of neem. But any leaf hoppers, grass hoppers or similar chomping insects will be incapacitated quickly.
People eat neem leaves to cleanse the blood, stimulate the liver, and boost the immune system. So we certainly don't need to worry about a bit of neem inside our lettuce leaves. To me this is a much more attractive option than having poisonous foulicides build up in my garden.
Neem oil suffocates insects
Many gardeners use white oil (plain mineral oil) or even olive oil to combat soft bodied insects like aphids, thrips or whitefly. The oil coats the bugs and they suffocate. Neem oil insecticide does that as well. But it's more like a little bonus on top of everything else it does.
It can be a hazard, though. Of course there is no difference between suffocating good or bad bugs. Oil suffocates anything. So this aspect can harm beneficial insects!
Neem oil and beneficial insects
Neem is non toxic for beneficial insects. The main reason is that insects need to ingest the neem oil to be affected, and beneficial insects don't eat your plants. But you can still kill beneficial insects if you smother them with neem oil, so please be careful.
Beneficial insects are most active during the day. The best time to spray neem insecticide is very early in the morning, so the spray can dry before the good insects become active. Also a good time is the late afternoon or evening. Once the spray has dried it does not harm your bees, ladybugs, lacewings, predatory mites and wasps etc.
Excerpt taken from a web page.
Does neem oil insecticide work? Some gardeners question the usefulness of neem insecticide.
They sprayed neem oil, and did not see an immediate effect. They probably did not understand how neem oil affects insects.
Neem oil does work, but the way it works is different from other insecticides. Neem is not an instant, knock down, kill everything pesticide.
Neem oil affects insects in many different, ingenious and subtle ways.
How neem oil messes with the insects' brains and bodies
Neem oil has many complex active ingredients. Rather than being simple poisons, those ingredients are similar to the hormones that insects produce. Insects take up the neem oil ingredients just like natural hormones.
Neem enters the system and blocks the real hormones from working properly. Insects "forget" to eat, to mate, or they stop laying eggs. Some forget that they can fly. If eggs are produced they don't hatch, or the larvae don't moult.
Obviously insects that are too confused to eat or breed will not survive. The population eventually plummets, and they disappear. The cycle is broken.
How precisely it works is difficult for scientists to find out. There are too many different active substances in neem oil, and every insect species reacts differently to neem insecticide.
Neem oil does not hurt beneficial insects. Only chewing and sucking insects are affected. It is certainly fascinating.
Like real hormones, neem oil insecticide works at very low concentrations, in the parts per million range. A little neem oil goes a long way.
But this is not something that happens over night. People spray neem oil as insecticide, and expect everything to die instantly, because that's what they are used to from chemical poisons. When that does not happen they conclude neem insecticide does not work.
It does work! Give it time to work. It's a much smarter way to deal with insect pests than to just kill everything.
How neem oil deters chewing and sucking insects
There is a nice story that demonstrates how grasshoppers react to neem oil insecticide. It goes something like this:
Someone did an experiment. It involved two jars, two leaves, and two grasshoppers. One leaf was sprayed with a chemical insecticide, and one with neem oil. The two grasshoppers were put in the two jars, with one leaf each.
The first grasshopper ate the leaf and died almost instantly. The grasshopper with the neem oil covered leaf did not touch the leaf and lived. At least for a few days. Eventually it starved to death.
What would you prefer? A poisonous half eaten lettuce, or an organic, untouched lettuce? It's a no brainer, isn't it?
Neem stops insects from eating the plants.
Part of this action is due to to the hormone like action of neem oil that I explained above. Insects "forget" to eat after they've been in contact with even traces of neem oil.
But it is also the presence, the mere hint of a smell of neem oil, that seems to be enough to keep leaf eating insects away. Neem oil can be very powerful as an anti-feedant and insect repellent.
This anti-feedant property is one of the most often advertised and lauded properties of neem oil insecticide. However, the hormonal effects I described above are even stronger.
Neem oil as an insect deterrent works well against grasshoppers and leafhoppers, but all other insect pests are controlled mostly through the hormone action.
The subtlety of the hormonal effects, and the fact that they may take days or weeks to manifest, makes people overlook them. Ill informed gardeners seek instant gratification, i.e. lots of dead insects immediately, rather than a balanced environment in the long run.
It's a shame, because the hormonal effect is where the real power of neem oil lies. It's the key to neem oil being an effective insecticide and good for the environment at the same time. It's also important to understand this effect to use neem oil insecticide correctly.
Neem oil works from inside the plant
Many insecticides break down quickly. They wash away with rain, or when irrigating, or the sunlight destroys them. You either have to spray all the time, or you have to spray something that's so stable that it stays around forever. That means the chemical builds up everywhere and eventually poisons everything, including you.
Neem oil breaks down very quickly, too. It is especially susceptible to UV light. But neem oil is also a systemic insecticide. That means you can pour it on the soil (not pure neem oil of course, you use a dilution or extract) and the plants absorb it. They take it up into their tissue, and it works from the inside. A leaf hopper may take a couple of bites, but that's it.
However, this does not work for all insect species. The neem ingredients accumulate in the tissues deeper inside the plant. The phloem, the outermost layer, contains hardly any. A tiny aphid feeds from the phloem, it can not penetrate deep enough to get a dose of neem. But any leaf hoppers, grass hoppers or similar chomping insects will be incapacitated quickly.
People eat neem leaves to cleanse the blood, stimulate the liver, and boost the immune system. So we certainly don't need to worry about a bit of neem inside our lettuce leaves. To me this is a much more attractive option than having poisonous foulicides build up in my garden.
Neem oil suffocates insects
Many gardeners use white oil (plain mineral oil) or even olive oil to combat soft bodied insects like aphids, thrips or whitefly. The oil coats the bugs and they suffocate. Neem oil insecticide does that as well. But it's more like a little bonus on top of everything else it does.
It can be a hazard, though. Of course there is no difference between suffocating good or bad bugs. Oil suffocates anything. So this aspect can harm beneficial insects!
Neem oil and beneficial insects
Neem is non toxic for beneficial insects. The main reason is that insects need to ingest the neem oil to be affected, and beneficial insects don't eat your plants. But you can still kill beneficial insects if you smother them with neem oil, so please be careful.
Beneficial insects are most active during the day. The best time to spray neem insecticide is very early in the morning, so the spray can dry before the good insects become active. Also a good time is the late afternoon or evening. Once the spray has dried it does not harm your bees, ladybugs, lacewings, predatory mites and wasps etc.
DubB83
Well-Known Member
Be sure to re-apply the neem oil 3 or more times about 5 days apart. From what I have read it will dissipate quickly and more larva will hatch so you have to get them again before they reproduce. If you add a tiny bit to your hydro formula your plants will absorb the oil and give it protection from burrowing bugs and all. Spray your leaves on the large plants and for the small ones in your SOG you can dunk the entire plant in a mixture of neem oil as a substitution for a regular flood cycle.
Anyone know the best thing to get herb tar out of carpet? I have white carpet.
It is a bit of work but after everything is said and done the thrips will think your yummy plants are not so yummy anymore and move on or they will just plain out die.
Anyone know the best thing to get herb tar out of carpet? I have white carpet.
It is a bit of work but after everything is said and done the thrips will think your yummy plants are not so yummy anymore and move on or they will just plain out die.
NewGrowth
Well-Known Member
Be sure to re-apply the neem oil 3 or more times about 5 days apart. From what I have read it will dissipate quickly and more larva will hatch so you have to get them again before they reproduce. If you add a tiny bit to your hydro formula your plants will absorb the oil and give it protection from burrowing bugs and all. Spray your leaves on the large plants and for the small ones in your SOG you can dunk the entire plant in a mixture of neem oil as a substitution for a regular flood cycle.
Anyone know the best thing to get herb tar out of carpet? I have white carpet.
It is a bit of work but after everything is said and done the thrips will think your yummy plants are not so yummy anymore and move on or they will just plain out die.
Try oxyclean and really hot water seems to be the best at getting resin off pretty much everything.
Shackleford.R
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ForcedInduction
Active Member
duddeee that looks like some shwag
Shackleford.R
Well-Known Member
it was bagseed from shwag?
i missed the harvest window by a week or so. i lost my motivation. honestly! i'm pleased for my first grow.
this grow was definitely "trial and error" learned alot, and look forward to doing better next time.
Shack
i missed the harvest window by a week or so. i lost my motivation. honestly! i'm pleased for my first grow.
this grow was definitely "trial and error" learned alot, and look forward to doing better next time.
Shack