when should I move them to a bigger container?

Kushenator

Active Member
I have 7 plants about 10-15 inches tall. They are in plastic solo cups and have been for about 2-3 weeks. I was wondering when I should put them in bigger containers. I have 2.75 L containers that I plan to put them in but I don't want to put them in too soon.
 

Brick Top

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If your plants are 10 to 15 inches tall and still in solo cups they are well past time to need to be up-potted. Myself I do not see the rationale for starting small and up-potting but it sure seems to be what most soil growers do.
 

GrizzlyAdams

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I'm with bricktop. I only transplant once at maximum. Your plants are without a doubt root-bound. Use this guideline.

1 foot of height = 1 gallon of soil.

If your plants are extremely bushy, add another .5 gal per foot. I'd run out and buy whatever shit you need to finish with, transplant them there, and let the girls roll on. Transplanting a ton of times is just bad voodoo dood.
 

Kushenator

Active Member
thank you guys so much I will transplant them into bigger asap. My homie started to germinate and sprout the plants for me and then he gave them to me when they were 6-8 inches in solo cups. I just started veg them for the past week. I am new to growing so I was not sure when to move them to bigger pots. But thanks again!!
 

Nocturn3

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If your plants are 10 to 15 inches tall and still in solo cups they are well past time to need to be up-potted. Myself I do not see the rationale for starting small and up-potting but it sure seems to be what most soil growers do.
Agreed that they probably need repotting now, based on height.

As for the rationale behind sequential transplants, there are 2 main benefits. Firstly, the fact that roots grow down before they grow out means that a large amount of soil is unused for a long time, if you go straight into larger pots. By filling out the smaller pots with roots, then potting up, you get more efficient usage of the soil area.

Secondly, it saves on nutes. My sequence is : cups>small pots>large pots. I use a soil that containg nutes for approx 2-3 weeks. By potting up every 2 weeks into fresh soil, I never have to feed anything other than water before 12/12, even with long-ish veg times.

There are of course downsides to multiple pots as well. For one, you have to water them more often during veg. There is also the fact that when the roots hit the bottom of the pots and start curling around, growth slows down slightly. (this is not "rootbound" despite what some growers may say. Rootbound takes a long time to happen).

I have weighed up the pros and cons and, for my situation, i'd rather transplant multiple times. That's not to say that everyone should do it this way, just that it works for me.
 
i do not know what a solo cup size is, but if it is like size of a dixie cup then its past time, but if plant is showing good size leaf all is not lost as they will rejuvenate. re potting is a very important step in obtaining dynamic growth . i believe that seedlings like a small space . and when that space has been filled re potting should be an easy exercise with no stop in growth.with practice its easy. once your seedlings have a few sets of proper leaves dont be afraid to have a look . get seedling trays and follow the directions. what works for tomatoes etc is same same..., happy trail
 

Brick Top

New Member
I'm with bricktop. I only transplant once at maximum. Your plants are without a doubt root-bound. Use this guideline.

1 foot of height = 1 gallon of soil.

If your plants are extremely bushy, add another .5 gal per foot. I'd run out and buy whatever shit you need to finish with, transplant them there, and let the girls roll on. Transplanting a ton of times is just bad voodoo dood.
For the most part the above soil mass of a plant will be equaled by the below soil level plant mass.

At different stages either above soil or below soil growth will be sped up or slowed down so it is not a constant but it always remains close to being 50/50.

Of course the shape is different with there being fine twisty roots and big possibly very wide leaves and all but in mass, in area they are pretty close to a 50/50 match.
 
People need to keep that in mind the next time they look at a plant and stop to think how hard it would be to yank the plant out and jam all the above soil growth into that tiny little pot it is growing in.

That will give them some general idea of how much to small some pots are.
 
The other thing about up-potting or just growing in small pots is that as soon as a plant’s roots begin to circle the container they are in the plant is then under some degree of stress.

The longer you allow the circling to continue the worse the stress gets and the more problems you will be likely to face.
 
If you up-pot several times you risk additional risk for multiple stressful periods that could easily be avoided.

You also run the risk of damage every time you handle your plants.

Then you also need more sized containers and either toss them out and replace them if things like cups or have to store more things when unused if actual pots and of course you do have to pay for all of that.
 
I say start your popped beans right out in the largest sized pot you will be using and never up-pot them.

If you feel you have to start small then start small but do not wait to long to up-pot and then go right into the largest sized pots you will use.
 

Nocturn3

Well-Known Member
The other thing about up-potting or just growing in small pots is that as soon as a plant’s roots begin to circle the container they are in the plant is then under some degree of stress.

The longer you allow the circling to continue the worse the stress gets and the more problems you will be likely to face.
 
If you up-pot several times you risk additional risk for multiple stressful periods that could easily be avoided.

You also run the risk of damage every time you handle your plants.

Then you also need more sized containers and either toss them out and replace them if things like cups or have to store more things when unused if actual pots and of course you do have to pay for all of that.
I hate to disagree with your points, since I have a lot of respect for you and have noticed that you consistently post good information.

However, I personally don't agree that the circling of roots causes stress, at least not for a long time. I keep bonsai mother plants in small (4") pots, and they consistently produce good clones and show no signs of stress in themselves.

I root trim every few months to encourage growth spurts, but they are extremely happy up to this point, even when the pot is full of roots. Growth is inhibited somewhat by small pots, but it does not seem to cause the plant a great deal of stress, as long as they are still fed properly.

As far as transplant shock is concerned, i've never experienced it myself, possibly due to my potting up technique (details). I also think that most root damage caused during transplant is down to people transplanting too early, before the establishment of a proper root mass that will hold itself together properly.

It is true that it is an extra set of pots to buy and store, but as a one-off cheap purchase, it wasn't really an issue for me.

It is true that incremental pot-ups will add several days to your veg cycle, but for me the benefits are worth it. I'm not saying everybody should do things this way, but it does have it's benefits, as well as it's drawbacks.
 

Nocturn3

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For what its worth, I'm in total agreement with bricktop.
That's all well and good, but is your opinion based on experience, or simply "something you read"?

If root crowding caused major stress, nobody would keep bonsai mother plants, or at the very least they would have to root trim every few weeks or so.
 
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