The Official Canna Coco & Nutrients Thread

jberry

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I almost forgot the other component that I am adding this time is alfalfa tea.

Alfalfa ingredients:
Triacontanol (growth stimulant)
Vitamin A (high concentration)
Thiamine
Riboflavin
Pantothenic Acid
Niacin
Pyridoxine
Choline
Bentaine
Folic Acid
co-enzymes
Crude proteins (16 - 25% in dry alfalfa)

Amino acids (% in alfalfa meal).
Tryptophan, 0.3 %
Aspartic Acid, 2.3%
Threonine, 1.0 %
Serine, 1.0%
Glutamic Acid, 2.7%
Proline, 1.2%
Glycine, 1.1%
Alanine, 1.1%
Cystine, 0.2%
Valine, 1.0%
Methionine, 0.3%
Isoleucine, 0.8%
Leucine, 1.6%
Tyrosine, 0.5%
Phenylalanine, 1.0%
Histidine, 0.4%
Lysine, Total, 1.1%
Arginine, 1.1%

Minerals (contained in dry alfalfa)
Nitrogen 3.75-5.5 %
Potassium .75 - 3.5 %
Phosphorus .3 - .7%
Calcium 1 - 2 %
Magnesium .30 - 1 %
Sulphur .2 - .5 %
Manganese 30-200 ppm
Iron 20-250 ppm
Boron 20-80 ppm
Copper 5-20 ppm
Zinc 20-70 ppm

That's a lot of nutrients in a pretty cheap source. I buy the pellets at the feed store (50lb bag) and have them regrind it into meal for me.
wow

interesting stuff.... i wonder if any of it would have any ill effects?

let me know if u use it, im interested.
 

SnowWhite

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no, i dont feel comfortable with the pics... i put the one pic up just to shut the people up who were talking shit.... (Some guy that has a journal of one plant)

but i do 16 plants per 1000 watts...i can legally have up to 99 plants per card..... i veg for 2 weeks under t5's.... i use 2 gallon perfect pots.... my plants usually finish around 3 feet tall topped and lollipopped.... and i average around 500 gr. per sq. meter....and you already know most of the nutes i use....

... and i'm pretty much just a baller stuck in a gangsters body ! lol :eyesmoke:
No worries man. I had to ask though. I love to see well organised grows, and I bet yours is in very good order!

:peace:
 

Corwin

Active Member
holy shizz, 20ml per gallon ?!!? im scared ...lol

im looking into this product called "Mykos" and i think i will end up using it instead of Great White.... it seems like high quality stuff and it has grown the worlds largest/heaviest pumpkin for the last three years.
I stand corrected. I am making nutes at the moment and 10ml/gal, for CalMag is the accelerated rate.
 

Corwin

Active Member
wow

interesting stuff.... i wonder if any of it would have any ill effects?

let me know if u use it, im interested.
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that BMO makes their boost product from yucca among others. It is supposed to aid a plant in the uptake of nutes and fluids and boost the plants auto immune system.
 

(Butters)

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Hey all, :mrgreen:

I will be using Humboldt Gravity for my current grow in coco. I am using the Canna coco a+b, canna PK 13/14, and CalMg. ;-)

I will be adding the Gravity for the final 3 weeks of flowering. How should I adjust my nutes when I begin to use gravity? I know I'll need to cut them back, just not sure HOW much.:confused:

I saw that you mentioned that you've used gravity before jberry. How did you go about adjusting your nutes?

My current plan is to begin adding 5mL/gallon of Gravity beginning 3 weeks before the flowering is due to end (for me, that's week 5). By week 5, I had planned to have my Canna coco a+b nutes up to 10ml/gallon at that point (not taking into consideration the need to scale back the nutes) with 4ml/gallon of PK 13/14 and 3 ml/gallon of CalMag. :wink:

The instructions on Gravity indicate to cut nutes to 1/3 strength. Not too thrilled about that idea so I'm curious to hear what others have done.

-Butters :bigjoint:
 

jberry

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Hey all, :mrgreen:

I will be using Humboldt Gravity for my current grow in coco. I am using the Canna coco a+b, canna PK 13/14, and CalMg. ;-)

I will be adding the Gravity for the final 3 weeks of flowering. How should I adjust my nutes when I begin to use gravity? I know I'll need to cut them back, just not sure HOW much.:confused:

I saw that you mentioned that you've used gravity before jberry. How did you go about adjusting your nutes?

My current plan is to begin adding 5mL/gallon of Gravity beginning 3 weeks before the flowering is due to end (for me, that's week 5). By week 5, I had planned to have my Canna coco a+b nutes up to 10ml/gallon at that point (not taking into consideration the need to scale back the nutes) with 4ml/gallon of PK 13/14 and 3 ml/gallon of CalMag. :wink:

The instructions on Gravity indicate to cut nutes to 1/3 strength. Not too thrilled about that idea so I'm curious to hear what others have done.

-Butters :bigjoint:
I would be very careful with the gravity... I would be scared to use more than 1ml per gallon unless you cut your nutes off completely... A lot of people who use gravity burn their plants, and it burns plants grown in coco easier... (all the humboldt products do)

I use it for 5-12 days at 1/4 ml - 1/2 ml per gallon, and cut my base nutes back by half or a 1/3, but i also use moab during this time at half dose or so.

i would cut your nutes back a lot when mixing any pk with gravity.
 

jberry

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No worries man. I had to ask though. I love to see well organised grows, and I bet yours is in very good order!

:peace:
yea, i do run a tight ship... My room are shinny and bleachy clean and sealed super tight at all times, i have a overkill on everything including light, i have all my fans, carbon filters, digital ballast, ect... in another room, i have the rooms under climate control with a/c, dehumidifier, co2 monitor/reg. with 50 pound tank if i feel the need to co2 enrich, but i also have it set up to bring fresh air in/out as well when im not using the co2 tank... and i keep everything running like clockwork, and i never have more than 24 hours of down time between cycles... oh and i have reinforced doors for sound and safety.
 

jberry

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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that BMO makes their boost product from yucca among others. It is supposed to aid a plant in the uptake of nutes and fluids and boost the plants auto immune system.
i dont know anything about their products :(
are they 100% organic ?
 

SnowWhite

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yea, i do run a tight ship... My room are shinny and bleachy clean and sealed super tight at all times, i have a overkill on everything including light, i have all my fans, carbon filters, digital ballast, ect... in another room, i have the rooms under climate control with a/c, dehumidifier, co2 monitor/reg. with 50 pound tank if i feel the need to co2 enrich, but i also have it set up to bring fresh air in/out as well when im not using the co2 tank... and i keep everything running like clockwork, and i never have more than 24 hours of down time between cycles... oh and i have reinforced doors for sound and safety.

ok.....so now you're just turning me on J! ;) LOL
 

Argentino619

Active Member
Hey J whats going on. Finally done with the vegetative state aand my girl has been flowering for 2 weeks this Friday. I used my fox farm grow big for the first week of flowering and tomorrow will be my first application of bio Flora. Now my question is should bio flora at 1/2 strength or 1/4 strength? Plus when should i start my pk 13/14 application. here's a picture of my girl now
 

jberry

Well-Known Member
Hey J whats going on. Finally done with the vegetative state aand my girl has been flowering for 2 weeks this Friday. I used my fox farm grow big for the first week of flowering and tomorrow will be my first application of bio Flora. Now my question is should bio flora at 1/2 strength or 1/4 strength? Plus when should i start my pk 13/14 application. here's a picture of my girl now
i would use the flora at 1/2 strength and then try full strength a few days later....

as for the pk:
you can use it for one week, around week 4 or 5 of bloom.... But.....

i use it for almost 3 weeks...at 4 ml per gallon for the most part...

i start using it a few days after the flowers develop a bunch of pistols and stop when the nugs are finished linking together... by week 6 im done using it.

the plant only needs the pk for around 7-10 days, but to make sure i give it on the exact 7-10 days it is needed, i start early and end late... and canna assured me it wouldnt have any ill side effects...

i still pump it up to 6ml per gallon during the 7 days that i suspect to be the pk sweet spot.

it depends on how long your flower time is also... if you had a 12 week flower time, than you wouldnt want to use it until like week 8 or something like that.
 

jberry

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hey everyone...

i just harvested some outdoor grown in Canna's Bio Terra Pro Plus !

they were harvested a little early due to some gang bangers thinking they could come in my yard and jack me... they got 2 plants out of 40.

the gangsters came a week ago, today 5 cops showed up because of someone calling to complain about the crop??.... they got nothing and no tickets or arrests were made.

luckily i dont live at the house where this happened.

anyhow, i harvested several strains:

super lemon haze
DP original blueberry
barneys blue cheese
pure power
purple lady
diesel
grapefruit diesel (yum)
blue dream

the gangsters got my grape ape, and purple trainwreck :(

i will try to take a pic or 2 later.
 

Argentino619

Active Member
so next week is when ill start using the pk13/14 that will be 3weeks into flowering, i just mix it in with the flora as well too right. feed both pk13/14 and flora at the same time right/
 

(Butters)

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Hey jberry

Sorry to hear about the f'ing gangbangers getting your shit.

2 out of 40! :dunce:

That's like 5%. Those must be the worst gangbangers in the world! :lol:

You'll have to leave instructions with pictures for them for next round......along with driving directions to the local Special Olympics For Gangbangers. :lol:

-Butters :bigjoint:
 

Corwin

Active Member
hey everyone...

i just harvested some outdoor grown in Canna's Bio Terra Pro Plus !

they were harvested a little early due to some gang bangers thinking they could come in my yard and jack me... they got 2 plants out of 40. ...

Sorry about that JBerry. Thugs, what are ya gonna do. In Texas you could shoot them and then say they came up on you when you had discovered their farm at your rent house and they threw down on ya so ya had to kill all 12 even the one that was 4 blocks away running...:twisted:

Opps I meant sorry what ya gonna do.

Glad you got most of your crop in and you are safe.

I am transplanting seedlings today out of the tray that holds the rapid rooters and into 3.75" net pots that will be there home till i kill them all gangland style...I mean until harvest.:roll:

Some C99 and El Monstre (jackberry xBlue Kronic). I am hoping that the Killing Kush is gonna crack this time. Sannie gave me another 10 pack since I got 1 to make it to seedling last time, but so far not one crack, even though I am 5/5 on his freebies. Go figure.

I am using a soak that has kelp, yucca, molasses and mycorrhzae in it. Oh and Root Excelerator from House and Garden.
 

Corwin

Active Member
Has anyone noticed a huge price difference between here and the UK and OZ on Canna? Like half the price on some stuff. I tried to get them to ship from UK but they wouldn't due to customs.

Where is your low price Canna source?
 

SnowWhite

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What PH do you run J?

Mared tells me he runs between 5.9 and 6.1, I think he said.

I started at 5.5 and am currently running 5.65, at ~3 weeks 12/12, and slowly increasing.

Just wondered what you run at throughout you grows, cos I'm sure you've tried and tested different ranges as well! ;)

I know some strains like different levels as well, so I appreciate it's not an exact science either. Just interested.

Thanks man! :joint:
 
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