Ph Level High

Csandyrew

Member
Ok so the ph in my soil is 8.03. I wanted to know if it would be a bad idea to give it water that is 6.0? So I can get the ph in the soil back down to between 6.5-7.0. If that isn't a good idea can I get some recommendations on getting it back in range safely?:confused:
 

Boneman

Well-Known Member
Get your water, mix your nutes and stuff into it and test the ph before feeding. It should be 6.5 for soil.
Soil runoff is a pain in the ass and you will be forever chasing it. 6.5 is where you need to be, not 7.0. Make sure your tester is calibrated otherwise you are spinning your wheels.
 

uriah

Active Member
Ok so the ph in my soil is 8.03. I wanted to know if it would be a bad idea to give it water that is 6.0? So I can get the ph in the soil back down to between 6.5-7.0. If that isn't a good idea can I get some recommendations on getting it back in range safely?:confused:
Get your water, mix your nutes and stuff into it and test the ph before feeding. It should be 6.5 for soil.
Soil runoff is a pain in the ass and you will be forever chasing it. 6.5 is where you need to be, not 7.0. Make sure your tester is calibrated otherwise you are spinning your wheels.
I think Csandyrew is trying to get the soil ph down, I'm having a similar problem. Not quite as high, but i want to be at or as close to 6.5 as possible.
 

Csandyrew

Member
Ok, I'm growing in trash cans. I made a couple holes in the trash can and tested it lower down. The ph level read 6.4. When I test if from the top it reads at 7.5 know. What should I do go by the lower part or the top or the run off water? I'm cofused.
 

moash

New Member
here u gobongsmilie
GrowFAQ : How can I raise or lower the pH of my soil mix?

Added by: 10k Last edited by: snoofer Viewed: 798 times Rated by 29 users: 9.35/10Contributed by: Dowzer
Submitted: June 23, 2003

How can I raise or lower the pH of my soil mix?

Growing in soil and adjusting pH levels

A lot of gardeners have trouble with the pH of their soil. A high pH can lock out needed nutrients and mimic other problems like Fe and Mg deficiencies. The biggest mistake new growers make is to try and correct pH problems too quickly. The first step in determining if high pH is the real problem, is to pick up a good pH tester. Don't be afraid to shell out the cash for a good one, it's well worth it!

Here are some recommendations: (All sell for under $100.00)

1. Milwaukee makes two styles of hand-held pH meters. A small "pen" called the Sharp and the larger Smart Meter. Both are easy to use. The Sharp pens are splash-proof (although not totally waterproof), and have a large easy to read display. They also have a detachable, replaceable probe.

2. Oakton - Same type of pH tester as Milwaukee makes, but it's made a little better imho. These are totally waterproof. (It floats.)

3. Shindengen ISFET pH Meters are state-of-the-art pH pens and work with a totally different method of measurement. This pen uses a solid state Ion Sensitive Field Effect Transistor (ISFET) instead of the fragile glass electrodes used by traditional pH pens. They have replaceable tips that change from opaque to clear when they need to be changed.


What is pH, and what do the terms acidic and alkaline mean?
The acidity or alkalinity of the soil is measured by pH (potential Hydrogen ions). Basically it's a measure of the amount of lime (calcium) contained in your soil, and the type of soil that you have. A soil with a pH lower than 7.0 is an acidic soil and one with a pH higher than 7.0 is considered to be alkaline. A pH of 7.0 is neutral.


Adjusting your soil pH :
Once you have determined the pH of your soil with a good tester, you can amend the soil if needed to accommodate the plants in your garden using inexpensive materials commonly available at your local garden center.

Adjust soil pH slowly over several days time, and check pH often as you go. Radical changes in pH may cause osmotic shock damage to the roots.

Raising soil pH : (to make it more alkaline)
It is generally easier to make soil mixes more alkaline than it is to make them more acidic. The addition of dolomite lime, hardwood ash, bone meal, crushed marble, or crushed oyster shells will help to raise the soil pH.

by MisterIto
In soil: add dolomite limestone to the soil; use small amounts of hydrated lime.

Raising hydroponic pH : (to make it more alkaline)

In hydroponics: use potassium silicate, provides silicon at an effective doseage.
In bioponics/hydro-organics: add small amounts of sodium bicarbonate or lime.

Lowering soil pH : (to make it more acidic)
If your soil needs to be more acidic, sawdust, composted leaves, wood chips, cottonseed meal, leaf mold and especially peat moss, will lower the soil pH.

by MisterIto
bloodmeal/cottonseed meal during vegetative; bonemeal during flowering.

Lowering hydroponic pH : (to make it more acidic)

In hydroponics: use nitric acid during vegetative; phosphoric acid during flowering.

Contributed by: Spiritual.Fa
23-08-2003

Stabilizing pH with Dolomite lime

The best way to stable PH is by adding 1 ounce of Dolomite Lime per 1 gallon of planting soil.

Dolomite Lime is available in garden nurseries. Buy the fine Dolomite powder (There may be several kinds of Dolomite like Rough, Medium, Fine)

Dolomite Lime has been a useful PH stabilizer for years, since it has a neutral PH of 7 when added to your soil it stabilizes your soil at PH 7.

Mix the dry soil medium and dolomite together really well, give the mix a good watering then after the water has had chance to settle and leech into the soil a bit give the mix a really good stir. Then water the soil/lime mix and give it another stir

Best plan is to mix fine dolomite lime into your mix before planting. Fine Dolomite will help stabilize your pH; however, if the ph becomes unstable or changes, you can then use Hydrated Dolomite Lime. Add some of the hydrated lime to luke warm water and give it a good stir then water your plants with it. Give the plants a good watering with this hydrated lime added and your PH should fall or rise back to 7

Other Benefits of Dolomite Lime

Dolomite lime is also high in two secondary nutes that can often be overlooked by fertilizers; dolomite is high in both (Mg) Magnesium and (Ca) Calcium.
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POLARIS01

Active Member
here u gobongsmilie
GrowFAQ : How can I raise or lower the pH of my soil mix?

Added by: 10k Last edited by: snoofer Viewed: 798 times Rated by 29 users: 9.35/10Contributed by: Dowzer
Submitted: June 23, 2003

How can I raise or lower the pH of my soil mix?

Growing in soil and adjusting pH levels

A lot of gardeners have trouble with the pH of their soil. A high pH can lock out needed nutrients and mimic other problems like Fe and Mg deficiencies. The biggest mistake new growers make is to try and correct pH problems too quickly. The first step in determining if high pH is the real problem, is to pick up a good pH tester. Don't be afraid to shell out the cash for a good one, it's well worth it!

Here are some recommendations: (All sell for under $100.00)

1. Milwaukee makes two styles of hand-held pH meters. A small "pen" called the Sharp and the larger Smart Meter. Both are easy to use. The Sharp pens are splash-proof (although not totally waterproof), and have a large easy to read display. They also have a detachable, replaceable probe.

2. Oakton - Same type of pH tester as Milwaukee makes, but it's made a little better imho. These are totally waterproof. (It floats.)

3. Shindengen ISFET pH Meters are state-of-the-art pH pens and work with a totally different method of measurement. This pen uses a solid state Ion Sensitive Field Effect Transistor (ISFET) instead of the fragile glass electrodes used by traditional pH pens. They have replaceable tips that change from opaque to clear when they need to be changed.


What is pH, and what do the terms acidic and alkaline mean?
The acidity or alkalinity of the soil is measured by pH (potential Hydrogen ions). Basically it's a measure of the amount of lime (calcium) contained in your soil, and the type of soil that you have. A soil with a pH lower than 7.0 is an acidic soil and one with a pH higher than 7.0 is considered to be alkaline. A pH of 7.0 is neutral.


Adjusting your soil pH :
Once you have determined the pH of your soil with a good tester, you can amend the soil if needed to accommodate the plants in your garden using inexpensive materials commonly available at your local garden center.

Adjust soil pH slowly over several days time, and check pH often as you go. Radical changes in pH may cause osmotic shock damage to the roots.

Raising soil pH : (to make it more alkaline)
It is generally easier to make soil mixes more alkaline than it is to make them more acidic. The addition of dolomite lime, hardwood ash, bone meal, crushed marble, or crushed oyster shells will help to raise the soil pH.

by MisterIto
In soil: add dolomite limestone to the soil; use small amounts of hydrated lime.

Raising hydroponic pH : (to make it more alkaline)

In hydroponics: use potassium silicate, provides silicon at an effective doseage.
In bioponics/hydro-organics: add small amounts of sodium bicarbonate or lime.

Lowering soil pH : (to make it more acidic)
If your soil needs to be more acidic, sawdust, composted leaves, wood chips, cottonseed meal, leaf mold and especially peat moss, will lower the soil pH.

by MisterIto
bloodmeal/cottonseed meal during vegetative; bonemeal during flowering.

Lowering hydroponic pH : (to make it more acidic)

In hydroponics: use nitric acid during vegetative; phosphoric acid during flowering.

Contributed by: Spiritual.Fa
23-08-2003

Stabilizing pH with Dolomite lime

The best way to stable PH is by adding 1 ounce of Dolomite Lime per 1 gallon of planting soil.

Dolomite Lime is available in garden nurseries. Buy the fine Dolomite powder (There may be several kinds of Dolomite like Rough, Medium, Fine)

Dolomite Lime has been a useful PH stabilizer for years, since it has a neutral PH of 7 when added to your soil it stabilizes your soil at PH 7.

Mix the dry soil medium and dolomite together really well, give the mix a good watering then after the water has had chance to settle and leech into the soil a bit give the mix a really good stir. Then water the soil/lime mix and give it another stir

Best plan is to mix fine dolomite lime into your mix before planting. Fine Dolomite will help stabilize your pH; however, if the ph becomes unstable or changes, you can then use Hydrated Dolomite Lime. Add some of the hydrated lime to luke warm water and give it a good stir then water your plants with it. Give the plants a good watering with this hydrated lime added and your PH should fall or rise back to 7

Other Benefits of Dolomite Lime

Dolomite lime is also high in two secondary nutes that can often be overlooked by fertilizers; dolomite is high in both (Mg) Magnesium and (Ca) Calcium.
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faq:1538 "How can I raise or lower the pH of my soil mix?"
i have a ph problem soil is 5.2ph , so i flushed with 6.5ph water. checked soil one day later. soil is 5.3ph . what sould i do and why did it get back to the same?
soil is foxfarm
 

moash

New Member
i have a ph problem soil is 5.2ph , so i flushed with 6.5ph water. checked soil one day later. soil is 5.3ph . what sould i do and why did it get back to the same?
soil is foxfarm
mix some lime witth water,then water
lime stabilizes ph for soil
 

POLARIS01

Active Member
mix some lime witth water,then water
lime stabilizes ph for soil
if i add lime stab in the soil that means i have to tranplant to bigger pot so i can mix in the soil? how long will that lime stabilizes last in the soil if i water with only 6.5ph before the soil begins to fall?
 

moash

New Member
if i add lime stab in the soil that means i have to tranplant to bigger pot so i can mix in the soil? how long will that lime stabilizes last in the soil if i water with only 6.5ph before the soil begins to fall?
if ur not in a big pot already then that would prob be a good idea.......
it should last for some while but not sure
 

POLARIS01

Active Member
u shouldnt have to change the ph everytime
so i went to the store and asked for dolomite lime and he said this was the same with a balanced ph 7 i added a 1/4 of a teaspoon to the top of the soil and watered in with 6.5 water and it went from 5.3ph to 8.2ph soil, i thought no matter how much i added it would not go past 7ph soil. now what? foxfarm soil
 

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